Episode 340
Episode 340: How Family Roles Change When Loved Ones Work Together
We foreground the central question of whether one could employ or dismiss one's own parents, interrogating the collision between filial obligation and managerial prerogative. Drawing upon our personal anecdotes and familial vignettes, I and my cohosts delineate the asymmetry between maternal and paternal roles, elucidating how maternal leverage and paternal stoicism engender disparate professional outcomes. We examine concrete scenarios in which emotional entanglement, financial accountability, and communal reputation complicate the exercise of authority, and we consider the personal cost associated with terminating parental employment. We also traverse ancillary terrain, reflecting upon intergenerational rituals—holiday hierarchies, the kids table, and family game dynamics—and the ways in which such rituals crystallize power relations that spill into workplace decisions. Further, we address contemporary communicative practices, particularly the pervasive demands of digital messaging and its impact on presence and relational bandwidth, and we juxtapose these concerns with cultural anecdotes about fandom and celebration. Throughout, I articulate a pragmatic disposition toward boundary setting that privileges fiduciary clarity while remaining cognizant of the irrevocable relational consequences such decisions may precipitate.
Transcript
How y' all doing?
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Speaker B:This week on the Five Minute Warning.
Speaker B:Could you.
Speaker C:Could you imagine me going to her house like when we were doing the cookouts or something over there and me being like, mom, would you go sit your ass down?
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at all, that's everywhere you don't want to be.
Speaker B:It's Reuben, Mo B.
Speaker B:And on the ones and twos, AG.
Speaker A:The Five Minute Warning.
Speaker A:Good evening, everyone.
Speaker A:Welcome to a brand new episode of Five Minute Warning.
Speaker A:Of course, as always, it's your man Reuben in the house tonight.
Speaker A:And of course with me always is my cousin ag.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker B:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:And my homeboy Moby.
Speaker C:What's going on, man?
Speaker A:Ah, man, it is official football season.
Speaker A:NFL college flag, high school, whatever little kids do, it's officially football season.
Speaker A:And hey, man, when it's all said and done, maybe not us, but there could be a whole bunch of people who gonna be a slave to the TV until the super bowl in February.
Speaker A:And just in case you didn't know, that shit's on the four letter network this year for the first time ever.
Speaker A:Can't tell you enough.
Speaker A:But with that being said, we're going to get into some different stuff today because you know, five Minute Warning is a family show and.
Speaker B:It is not, but okay, if that's what we're doing.
Speaker B:Oh, by the way, I do have something.
Speaker B:There's another season that started today, if you didn't know.
Speaker B:Do you know what season it is?
Speaker A:Cuffing season?
Speaker B:No, it's Van Damme dancing season.
Speaker A:Oh, whatever, bro.
Speaker B:He was killing it.
Speaker B:Did you see the sprayer thing, bruh?
Speaker B:He tried.
Speaker A:He tried to engage in that.
Speaker B:You just hate because you don't want to know what a perfection looks like.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker B:You don't want to know.
Speaker B:Soul Train.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Soul Train dance.
Speaker C:The hardest shimmy shake in the world, man.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker C:Don't, don't Nobody give that show the shimmy.
Speaker B:Like J with the.
Speaker B:With the tank top and the baggy pants.
Speaker B:Come on, bro, you can't.
Speaker A:You can't.
Speaker B:I'm saying that's the season.
Speaker C:With the pants way up high.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Tank top tucked in right at the belly button, sir.
Speaker B:Right at the belly, but so the pleats fall down.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker B:I had to do that to you, sir.
Speaker B:You knew I had to do that.
Speaker C:Like his belt buckle was almost trying to flirt with his nipples.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ladies and gentlemen, this is what I deal with on a weekly basis.
Speaker A:Bless America.
Speaker A:Goddamn fan dam.
Speaker A:All right, so once again, this is a family show.
Speaker A:And today we are going to talk a little bit about family.
Speaker A:I mean, I ain't saying everybody.
Speaker C:I'm kind of with ag.
Speaker C:Like, when did this become a family show?
Speaker A:Well, I'm about to explain.
Speaker B:There's no explaining.
Speaker B:It's not a family show.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:Look, man, we talk.
Speaker B:We don't talk about family.
Speaker B:But it ain't a family show.
Speaker A:We are TV ma.
Speaker A:We not tvx.
Speaker A:We not Triple X.
Speaker A:We not.
Speaker A:None of that.
Speaker A:So basically, you can hear some words that probably are said throughout the English language everywhere else but your house.
Speaker A:But probably your house too.
Speaker A:But as a parent, I just need to let you know that you might hear some words.
Speaker A:Words.
Speaker A:And if you have 10 to 10 to age children who don't need to hear those words, they probably shouldn't be watching.
Speaker A:However, if you don't give a, then they can watch it with you.
Speaker B:And that is precisely why this is not a family show.
Speaker A:I'm just saying it's tv.
Speaker A:Amy.
Speaker A:Hey, all I'm saying is Moby has said before that when he was younger, he went and saw a rated R movie in a theater at the the age of 10.
Speaker B:At night.
Speaker A:Night.
Speaker B:But how does that make this a family show?
Speaker C:I don't even think I was 10 yet, man.
Speaker C:I don't think exactly about what I was saying.
Speaker B:First of all, let's prove this.
Speaker B:What movie did you see?
Speaker B:Do you remember?
Speaker A:About the Rim.
Speaker B:When did about the Rim come?
Speaker B:I was at the mid-90s.
Speaker C:Early.
Speaker C:I think it was more early than Mid.
Speaker A:It had Tupac in it.
Speaker A:It was one of Tupac's first movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was it before.
Speaker B:Before Juice, right?
Speaker A:No, it was after Juice.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker A:He was older and he was, if I'm correct, he pharmaceutical.
Speaker B:Distributor.
Speaker A:Distributor, yes.
Speaker C:Came out in 94.
Speaker C:Came out, yeah.
Speaker B:Mid-90s.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:So, yeah, it was 10.
Speaker C:I was 10.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, I mean, so.
Speaker C:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:Like, all I'm saying is nothing we say on this show, it ain't worse than what kids see out there in school.
Speaker B:I'm just tripping at the fact on the radio.
Speaker B:Only thing I'm tripping.
Speaker C:Family show.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:That is the only thing I'm tripping.
Speaker B:Family show.
Speaker B:We talk about family, but it's.
Speaker B:Is not a family show, sir.
Speaker C:Well, you know what, man?
Speaker C:But Ag.
Speaker C:We got to stop it.
Speaker C:This is your lead in.
Speaker C:Carry on, sir.
Speaker B:Even when it's not true.
Speaker C:Hey, man, it's his reality, man.
Speaker C:We just living in it.
Speaker B:So we a Republican party right now.
Speaker A:Yeah, A.B.
Speaker A:I mean, y' all remind me every week.
Speaker B:Exactly 100%.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, you know, even though.
Speaker A:I didn't come up with the topic.
Speaker B:I mean, you didn't.
Speaker B:It's mine.
Speaker B:But at the same time, I never said come up with this lead in.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:Definitely came up with this lead in.
Speaker A:I love I gotta give people what they want.
Speaker B:I don't think they want that, sir.
Speaker A:I mean, you don't know what they want.
Speaker A:Neither do I.
Speaker A:That's why I'm giving them everything.
Speaker A:So with that being said.
Speaker A:Yeah, we could talk a little bit about family.
Speaker A:Now, the question of the day, I want to expand that a little bit, because the question of the day was, if you worked with your mother, could you refer to her as anything but mom?
Speaker A:Moreover, could you fire your mother if you were her boss?
Speaker A:The only thing I would like to change in that is parental units.
Speaker A:And just instead of mom.
Speaker A:Both parental units.
Speaker A:Because I think that some people will.
Speaker A:May have a different answer if it's mom versus dad, you know, but it all depends.
Speaker C:But doesn't that kill the spirit of the question?
Speaker C:Because I think absolutely we're gonna have a.
Speaker C:A different answer whether it's bombing.
Speaker C:Because I give the F about dad.
Speaker B:None.
Speaker B:Not at all.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:That's not where I was going with it, but okay.
Speaker B:But it's still true.
Speaker B:I mean, where were you going with it?
Speaker B:Because what he said was true.
Speaker B:Because I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker B:He just beat me to it.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, so, like, let's start with dad first.
Speaker A:Like, first of all, if dad worked for me, I mean, my name's Reuben.
Speaker A:His name's Reuben.
Speaker A:That shit would just be weird.
Speaker A:It would be dad.
Speaker A:That's just what it is.
Speaker A:Now, if I had to fire dad.
Speaker A:Now, real talk, I don't know if I could fire my dad for doing something stupid, because my dad ain't going to do nothing stupid.
Speaker B:How do you know that he might do something stupid?
Speaker B:Because he knows that you're a son and he's got leverage.
Speaker C:He might do something stupid because he's a person and everybody's capable of.
Speaker C:You know.
Speaker A:That's very true.
Speaker A:However, both of you know my dad.
Speaker A:I don't feel like dad would fall into that realm of doing something stupid.
Speaker C:I promise you, your dad has done something stupid that you have no clue about.
Speaker A:I'm not saying he has it.
Speaker C:So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:You wouldn't know?
Speaker A:No, but what I'm saying is like, I love my father, but my father is about his quan and that's nothing that he needs to outright come out and say.
Speaker A:But that's what he is.
Speaker A:He he about making sure that he does what he's supposed to be doing.
Speaker A:Like taking care of the family and stuff.
Speaker A:Like, so I don't think he would do anything that would mess up the money.
Speaker B:So Reuben, you're the money.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:You're the money.
Speaker B:So he can't mess you up.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I can mess myself up without his help, that's for damn sure.
Speaker A:So like.
Speaker A:But, but I guess what I'm saying though is like, I mean my dad really isn't.
Speaker A:As far as I've experienced, he doesn't make a ton of decisions on emot.
Speaker A:So like, I don't think he's gonna do something.
Speaker A:Like he might make a mistake or some shit, but I don't think he's gonna outright be like, do something stupid.
Speaker C:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:So, so you're saying it's not fire worthy if he makes enough mistakes.
Speaker A:I didn't say that.
Speaker C:Because you're saying he makes decisions don't make decision based on emotion.
Speaker C:Like, hey, all stupid decisions aren't based on emotions.
Speaker C:Some stupid decisions are just stupid.
Speaker C:Sometimes you just mess up.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker C:I think you're going into this with like this very simplistic view of your dad, but you've only known him in one light.
Speaker C:You've never known him.
Speaker C:You've never known your workplace dad.
Speaker A:I have not.
Speaker A:Because I've never met with him.
Speaker C:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:Like, you, you.
Speaker C:Like I don't think he would do nothing stupid.
Speaker C:And I'm telling you, you don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, you're right, but I just feel like, I feel like the way he carries himself, that's not his move.
Speaker A:Like he might make a mistake.
Speaker A:But he's the type of dude he Makes a mistake, and he makes a mistake just one time, like, small mistakes, but once again, there's that.
Speaker A:Now, Mom.
Speaker A:I've actually been in this situation with mom where I was in a leadership position, and she was a volunteer to a point where, you know, if I asked volunteers to do something, whatever.
Speaker A:Now, I will be very honest with you.
Speaker A:I was much younger, and, yes, I use that one time, the one time in my life I've ever called my mother Shirley.
Speaker A:One time I did it then.
Speaker A:And then I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:That feels weird.
Speaker A:Now it's mom up here.
Speaker A:And I just called her mom for the.
Speaker A:For the whole time.
Speaker A:Now could I fire Mom?
Speaker A:I mean, yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like.
Speaker A:I feel like you can fire anybody if you fire people before.
Speaker A:Now, if you've never fired anybody before, that's different.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean, if the reason is valid enough, I mean, it's not about how I feel.
Speaker A:It's about what it is.
Speaker A:I remember the first time I actually fired somebody.
Speaker A:I went and threw up afterwards.
Speaker A:It was pretty.
Speaker A:You know, he was cool about it, and I was just like, yeah, because that's kind of.
Speaker A:That can be.
Speaker A:For some people who've never experienced something like that.
Speaker A:I mean, hey, man, that's when.
Speaker A:In my opinion.
Speaker A:This is my opinion.
Speaker A:I feel like you literally have power over somebody when you hire and fire.
Speaker A:So, like, if you're not used to that type of being, that type of state, that type of power, because at the time, I never really had.
Speaker A:You know, I just physically didn't know what to do.
Speaker A:And, you know, I did the job, but then my body just reacted negatively to it.
Speaker A:It was just like, but, yeah, could I fire either one?
Speaker A:Yes, it would suck, you know, but I could get it done.
Speaker A:Ag, what about you?
Speaker B:Well, I learned later in life that my mom meant nothing that she ever taught me.
Speaker B:It's like Mo's mom.
Speaker B:She meant what she said for other folk.
Speaker B:And it was a huge disappointment for me because I take my parents like scripture.
Speaker B:Whatever they say goes.
Speaker B:And usually they make sense, and it's just like, it is what it is.
Speaker B:And on top of that, they always.
Speaker B:They never gave me hierarchy.
Speaker B:It was like, anybody, anybody that means us.
Speaker B:Don't trust me.
Speaker B:Don't trust your mama.
Speaker B:If it barks like a dog, it's a dog.
Speaker B:However, as I got older, I understood my mom, not my dad so much, because he ain't showed me that yet.
Speaker B:But my mom, for sure thought she gonna teach me how to be a dog and expect me not to bite her face off.
Speaker B:So I had to understand that going forward in that vein, I don't think I could work with my mom because she would.
Speaker B:Because she's been my mom my entire life, and that's the only relationship I'll ever have with her.
Speaker B:If she gave me advice that I didn't like, it would.
Speaker B:It would be a underlying problem.
Speaker B:It would be an underlying problem if she did something which my mom would never do.
Speaker B:She's a workaholic.
Speaker B:That's all she ever did super well.
Speaker B:I mean that.
Speaker B:I mean that.
Speaker B:If I had to pick, one thing she did best is go to work.
Speaker B:That's what she did.
Speaker B:She was savage.
Speaker B:So it's just like.
Speaker B:Like, I ain't worried about that.
Speaker B:However, again, I am concerned that she would look at me and go, I.
Speaker B:She would look at me as a bucket of leverage and be like, I ain't gonna do anything I want to do, but I'm at Riddick up in here, so.
Speaker A:So I know she would pull the power move consistently.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker A:She would use the power move consistently.
Speaker B:It would be subtle.
Speaker B:It would be super subtle because that's how my mom operates.
Speaker B:She is not someone that you're gonna see coming.
Speaker B:She's very subtle.
Speaker B:But if there was a situation, I don't think she would hesitate to use her leverage through me.
Speaker B:I don't think that.
Speaker B:So could I fire her?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But I'd have to be prepared not to have a relationship with her ever.
Speaker A:Ever.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know if she could handle that.
Speaker B:I don't know if she could be like, mama, what are you doing?
Speaker B:You gotta go.
Speaker B:This is not for you.
Speaker B:You fired.
Speaker B:You are fired.
Speaker B:I will mail you your check.
Speaker B:See you for Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker B:I don't think I could do that.
Speaker B:I don't think I can do that now, since you brought dads into it.
Speaker B:I think I could fire my dad 100%.
Speaker B:But I also know he would fire me.
Speaker B:So we have that type of relationship.
Speaker B:It's just like.
Speaker B:Like, if I can speak, you know, with respect to my dad, my dad, as Abraham, would have took me to the mountaintop and put that knife in my chest, you know, no question, question.
Speaker B:No question, no question.
Speaker B:So that's the type of relationship we have.
Speaker B:It's just like, if there's something that has to be done and I'm gonna get it, he's gonna let me have it.
Speaker B:So if there's something that has to be done and he's got to get it, I'm gonna let him have it.
Speaker B:Now, would it be a soft landing?
Speaker B:Sure it would, but, nah, I gotta kill him.
Speaker B:I gotta slow his throat.
Speaker B:With moms is different.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But I'm not speaking for either one of y', all, but for me in general and personally, moms are a little different.
Speaker B:You have to be of savage to.
Speaker B:To fire your mom.
Speaker B:That's why I said I have to be prepared not to talk to her no more, because she's going to take that, and it's.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's going to go well.
Speaker B:Like I told y' all on the show before, the one time, I got really sick and tired of her not wanting anything for Mother's Day.
Speaker B:So I said, I didn't do anything.
Speaker B:I just didn't do anything.
Speaker B:And she got her feelings hurt.
Speaker B:It was so bizarre.
Speaker B:I was like, number one, I know you have feelings like that.
Speaker B:Number two, you never want anything.
Speaker B:So I quit trying.
Speaker B:And my mom and my dad pointed to this.
Speaker B:I said, man, you gotta do something.
Speaker B:You have to do something.
Speaker B:And I'm sitting there like, what?
Speaker B:What do I gotta do?
Speaker B:But that was one of those things I learned when I was older.
Speaker B:Just because she's teaching you something doesn't mean it applies to her.
Speaker B:It means it applies to all the mother heffers out there.
Speaker B:And trust me, I say he for a reason.
Speaker B:So it's different.
Speaker B:The way in which I navigate with my dad is not the same way in which I navigate life with my mother.
Speaker B:I have to be prepared to not talk to her no more because I have to be prepared for her to take it really bad.
Speaker B:And when a woman.
Speaker B:See, now, she's a woman now.
Speaker B:So when a woman takes something really bad thing, bad things happen.
Speaker B:It's like making a white person uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Bad things happen.
Speaker B:People die.
Speaker B:So it's just like, you have to be prepared for that.
Speaker B:So I could do it, but I have to be prepared for that.
Speaker B:But for me, I'm seeing my own future, and I'm like, yeah, I'm just not gonna hire you at all.
Speaker B:Just take the money, Mom.
Speaker B:Just take the money.
Speaker B:Need some money?
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:Need a car?
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:Need your hair done.
Speaker B:Got you.
Speaker B:But we're not gonna work together ever.
Speaker B:So that's my answer.
Speaker B:I couldn't do it.
Speaker B:I couldn't do it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Cause I like Thanksgiving dinner with my mama for real.
Speaker B:Even when it was just us three, it was just.
Speaker B:It was great, but it's just like, I had to be prepared to leave that alone.
Speaker B:Mac and Cheese and sweet potato pie.
Speaker B:You tripping.
Speaker A:Yeah, she cooked, bro.
Speaker B:So I'm not giving that up because moms are a little different.
Speaker B:They just are.
Speaker A:Brett pretty much said mom will get the first pink slip to let the rest know I don't play.
Speaker B:And that's a great strategy.
Speaker B:If he can.
Speaker B:If he can fire his mom, then he know he gonna fire you.
Speaker C:That is some cold blood.
Speaker B:But, but I mean, as.
Speaker B:As a team sport guy and you as a counselor.
Speaker B:Isn't it effective, though?
Speaker A:Oh, super effective.
Speaker B:When you slit the throat of the person that's.
Speaker B:And then everybody sees that.
Speaker B:They already know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cuz they think you, you know, you never do nothing to that person.
Speaker A:Oh, you got.
Speaker A:You let them go 100%.
Speaker A:I ain't got.
Speaker A:I ain't got no shot of 100%.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:Mobi, what about you?
Speaker C:All right, so I'm.
Speaker C:I gotta go back to your answer because I wanted to let you cook and now I'm questioning your seasoning because who's you?
Speaker C:You Reuben?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I mean, you didn't specify that I.
Speaker B:Wanted to make, so.
Speaker C:So I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker C:I'm not even saying you're wrong.
Speaker C:I just thought it was very ironic that you were like, oh, yeah, if it needed to be done, I could, I could fire my mom, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, if any.
Speaker C:Because I'm just like, hold on.
Speaker C:Because you like, if it needs to get done, it needs to get done.
Speaker C:Forget my feelings.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, you're the person on this show that leans in the hardest on feeling like you don't do something because feel a certain way.
Speaker C:So like, it just seemed like it was inconsistent because you're usually the person that leans into the I feel, I feel, I feel.
Speaker C:And then you were like, hey, but if I got fired by my mom, my feelings like, whoa, does it.
Speaker C:It doesn't seem consistent.
Speaker C:Now it might be true.
Speaker C:This might be.
Speaker C:This might be the part where you just be like, hey, man, I'm a savage in this workplace thing.
Speaker C:Like that might actually be you.
Speaker C:But I'm just saying it doesn't seem consistent with everything else we've heard from you on this show.
Speaker C:It just seems like that is like the most inconsistent thing you've said.
Speaker A:So and I can address that.
Speaker A:Well, first of all, there are a couple reasons why we don't really talk about work on this show.
Speaker A:Just because it's not.
Speaker A:It really has nothing to do with the show.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, I'm kind of a control freak.
Speaker A:To a point.
Speaker A:Especially back in the day, like, when I was a manager of thing of things and people and I had a.
Speaker A:You know, when they directly affect what I can do and I have control over that.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm kind of.
Speaker A:I'm unfortunately that guy.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yes, to a point.
Speaker A:I would definitely say, yeah, man.
Speaker A:Like, I've told people who, you know in the past, man, I wish I worked for you.
Speaker A:No, you don't.
Speaker A:Like, straight up, no, I don't.
Speaker A:I told him.
Speaker A:No, you don't.
Speaker C:I told.
Speaker C:I totally get that, but I'm just saying, like, to think that the.
Speaker C:The most feely person on the show could divorce themselves from feelings when it comes to their mom just.
Speaker C:Just sounded inconsistent.
Speaker C:It might be actually true.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm not saying you're lying.
Speaker C:Nobody knows any more than you.
Speaker A:No, I mean, because it's.
Speaker A:Because here's the thing, man.
Speaker A:It's like depending on what you do.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's all about the job.
Speaker A:You know, like, I talked earlier where I was in a different position.
Speaker A:I mean, mom was a volunteer leader.
Speaker A:I couldn't follow.
Speaker A:I couldn't fire a volunteer leader.
Speaker A:That was not in my scope.
Speaker A:However, you know, my scope was if I needed help, I could address them and ask for help.
Speaker A:And now it's different.
Speaker A:But, yes, when it comes down to brass taxes, and it comes down to money and, hey, man, what you do affects me.
Speaker A:Yes, Moby, I'm kind of a savage,.
Speaker C:Actually, as you.
Speaker C:As you explained it, I take it back.
Speaker C:It's not as inconsistent because I do kind of feel like, like money is more important than your feelings at that point.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker C:I think with most things because, like, you get real iffy when we start talking about people being a sellout.
Speaker C:The first thing you always point to is money.
Speaker C:How much money they're making or if they're paying me this like.
Speaker C:So I just think with you, you.
Speaker C:You put a priority on money over your own feelings.
Speaker A:To a point.
Speaker A:Yeah, I would say that.
Speaker A:To a point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:There's no judgment there.
Speaker C:It's just like, hey, man.
Speaker A:Oh, no judgment.
Speaker C:I know when it comes to money, like, you know, the one time that I. I'm not going to hear anything about how you feel is when it comes to, like, how much you getting paid.
Speaker C:Like, because your feelings will always change based on your pay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, if I was infinitely rich, I'd probably Feel differently, you know, but I'm not.
Speaker B:So I thought you feel you.
Speaker B:You double down once you're rich.
Speaker B:Ah, got something to lose.
Speaker B:A lot to lose.
Speaker C:That's what most rich people do, Ag.
Speaker C:So I. I think that's.
Speaker C:That was Broke Reuben talking.
Speaker C:He just don't understand, right?
Speaker C:He don't.
Speaker C:He don't know what Money Ruben would do, because Money Ruben probably turned the Scrooge McDuck up here, like, hold on.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:I've been broke Ruben, since I came out the womb, baby.
Speaker A:And it's like, you know.
Speaker A:You know, and honestly, honestly, here's the crazy part about it, man.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like I am.
Speaker A:I am more comfortable when I don't have to worry about the financial stuff in my life, because that shit stressed me out.
Speaker A:That just stresses me out.
Speaker A:You know, Money stresses me out.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I know it's not what we talking about, but it does, man.
Speaker A:Man, that stresses me out because it's like.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Especially just growing up, man.
Speaker A:Not even.
Speaker A:Like, I. I wouldn't say it was a.
Speaker A:A fault of anyone's other than myself, you know?
Speaker A:But, yeah, man, that stresses me out completely.
Speaker A:So, like, I am the most happiest when the financial is where it should be, you know?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, you're right.
Speaker A:I've been broke, Reuben, for 54 years.
Speaker A:And unless some craziness happens or, you know, I hit the Powerball, which I never play, I mean, I won't be broke Ruben, until I die.
Speaker A:Because unless I become.
Speaker A:And when I say the only way I wouldn't be broke Ruben, if I was like.
Speaker A:If I had, like, 10.
Speaker A:10 Male in the back bank, then I might not be broke Ruben, even a mill.
Speaker A:A mill Reuben.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, like, I learned how to be frugal at a.
Speaker A:At a young age.
Speaker A:Shirley Brown taught me.
Speaker A:Taught me that.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:You not gonna see if I got money.
Speaker A:I ain't buying five, six cars for what I don't need no jewelry.
Speaker A:Like, I don't wear that now.
Speaker A:Like, nah, man, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm that dude who'd be paid.
Speaker A:But you never know it.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That would be me now, if you walked in my house, that'd be a little different because I'd have a TV that covers the wall and.
Speaker A:But stuff like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, anything that I would spend a lot of time with, that.
Speaker A:That would be.
Speaker A:Not Broke Ruben, but, like, to everybody else out in the world.
Speaker A:Nah, man, I'm cool.
Speaker A:Being broke Ruben.
Speaker A:Even if I wasn't broke.
Speaker A:But that's just me.
Speaker A:But back to the conversation.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:All right, Moby.
Speaker A:I mean, we, We.
Speaker A:We figured out my situation.
Speaker A:What about yours?
Speaker C:Yeah, I'll start with the first part.
Speaker C:Could I call my mom anything other than mom?
Speaker C:Yeah, it'd be Ms. Brown.
Speaker C:I can do that.
Speaker C:I'm actually cool with doing that.
Speaker C:Would she address me as anything other than, you know, what she addressed me as?
Speaker C:She wouldn't say that.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She would probably just call me my name and then maybe my whole name when she didn't get what you wanted.
Speaker C:But honestly, I could.
Speaker C:I could work with her, but only in one scenario.
Speaker C:I could work with her if she was in charge.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Because that's.
Speaker C:That's the only thing she knows how to be.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:When it comes to like, family dynamics and stuff.
Speaker C:Like, if she's.
Speaker C:If she's.
Speaker C:If she's not in charge, she's unhappy.
Speaker C:And I ain't got time.
Speaker C:I just be.
Speaker C:I'm with at.
Speaker C:I just like, bro, I just give you some money.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:Matter of fact, you can just take a check and don't even show up because what you're not gonna do is stress me.
Speaker C:And all I can think about is like, you.
Speaker C:I get stressed.
Speaker C:I get stressed every time I go to my grandma's house for like a family function, man, just.
Speaker C:Because when my grandma still trying to do stuff, my mom just wants to be in charge.
Speaker C:So like my grandma do something, she'd just be like, she's just in the way.
Speaker C:She's doing this.
Speaker C:She won't sit down.
Speaker C:I'm just like, this her house?
Speaker C:This is her house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, I get you trying to help and I'm not.
Speaker C:I understand what my mom is saying, but I'm just like, yo, this her house.
Speaker A:House.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You in her space.
Speaker C:This her stuff.
Speaker C:Even when she comes over here, she.
Speaker B:She'll.
Speaker C:She'll catch herself.
Speaker C:Cuz I. I'll point it out, you know, that she.
Speaker C:She likes to be in charge and still act like she's the parent no matter what, and then she'll catch herself.
Speaker C:Like, I was like, look.
Speaker C:She was like, I'm like, every time somebody's going somewhere, she's like, where are you going?
Speaker C:And she still does that with me.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just like, you can't help yourself.
Speaker C:And she was like, yeah, I can't.
Speaker C:So the other day I was going.
Speaker C:I was going out of town and she was like, where you going?
Speaker C:And she was like, you know what?
Speaker C:Never mind.
Speaker C:Don't worry about it.
Speaker C:Don't tell me, don't tell me.
Speaker C:And then she's like, where you going?
Speaker C:And I'm just like, you can't help yourself, man.
Speaker C:So I already know how that work.
Speaker C:Dynamic would be.
Speaker C:So, like, nah, man, if she ain't in charge, we ain't doing it.
Speaker C:If she's in charge, fine.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But if I got to be in charge.
Speaker C:Charge of her.
Speaker C:Nah.
Speaker C:No thanks.
Speaker C:Like, could I.
Speaker C:Could I fire her?
Speaker C:No, she would quit.
Speaker C:She would quit just from not being in charge.
Speaker C:Because, like, I don't know if I would have the heart to just be like, yo, you fired?
Speaker C:But I do know what I am good at doing.
Speaker C:Tuning her out.
Speaker C:And I know after a while that would just make.
Speaker C:Make her so upset that she would just be like, again, it.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:That be my only defense system.
Speaker C:Like, yo, she.
Speaker C:She gets mad about this.
Speaker C:She's like, why you always ignore me?
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, it's not ignoring.
Speaker C:It's self preservation.
Speaker C:Like, I just.
Speaker C:It's a survival skill, like, self preservation.
Speaker C:I've got 30 plus years of experience, and it's not even a negative thing.
Speaker C:It's just like, yo, man, my mom can totally be ran by emotion.
Speaker A:Emotions.
Speaker C:And that is.
Speaker C:That is like my worst nightmare to just be in a world in which I am dominated by somebody else's emotions.
Speaker C:So the only way I've survived all these years with her is just being like, hey, sometimes I gotta learn how to.
Speaker C:I gotta just tune it out.
Speaker C:I gotta just tune it out.
Speaker C:She's like, I'm cold.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker C:She's always like, why you always being so mean to me?
Speaker C:And I'm like, I'm not being mean.
Speaker C:I'm not being anything.
Speaker C:I'm just.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker C:I'm surviving right now.
Speaker C:Like, I'm surviving.
Speaker A:Hey, mom, I'm doing a whole bunch of shutting the up.
Speaker C:I'm just surviving.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:In many.
Speaker C:In many ways, like, it's the only person that truly should be mad that I've developed this skill is my wife.
Speaker C:Because, like, my wife will say that I'm doing that to her, and I'm just like, I can't turn it off.
Speaker C:I've been doing it for so long, man.
Speaker C:Just so long.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When the emotional atmosphere gets too thick, I'm out.
Speaker C:I'm here, but I'm out.
Speaker C:So, yeah, like, now, now, dad.
Speaker C:Well, I think the dad thing is an interesting dynamic, man.
Speaker C:Because, like, I think stereotypically, and I say stereotypically because I.
Speaker C:The New age dad is different.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The new age dad is very different.
Speaker C:But I think when we think about dad, we still think about, like, the old school dad, which is.
Speaker C:We're like, nah, man, I could fire him.
Speaker C:Because I could fire him.
Speaker C:He might be mad about it, but after a while, he gonna be like, hey, man, job's a job.
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker C:That's kind of how men are brought up with the old school.
Speaker C:That's kind of what it was.
Speaker C:It was like, look, man, I might be mad about it, but job.
Speaker C:Job's a job, man.
Speaker C:Job's a job.
Speaker C:I don't know if I'm with ag.
Speaker C:You can't do that with mom.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You fire your mom, the whole family against you.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:I never thought about that.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker C:When you said I was.
Speaker C:I was just like, yo, cuz, even.
Speaker C:Even if she would be okay with it, the rest of your family will not be.
Speaker C:And that's.
Speaker C:And no matter how she paints the picture, just if it comes out that you fired her, nobody cares about the reason.
Speaker B:In fact, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Just think about, like, you're a kid.
Speaker C:Like, if.
Speaker C:If your mom gets upset and your uncles or somebody sees your mom upset at you, they don't even need to know what happened.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker C:They are instantly mad at you.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker C:Like, your mom could be dead ass wrong, but if they walk in a room and she's mad at you, they mad at you.
Speaker A:Nah, that's.
Speaker A:That's legit.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:I think Aunt Shirley would probably try to protect you and say she quit.
Speaker B:I do see that happening.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:I could see that too.
Speaker C:My mom wouldn't protect me.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:Look, my mom gonna listen to this show, and she probably gonna think I'm talking negative about it.
Speaker C:This ain't a negative thing, Mom.
Speaker C:I just know you.
Speaker C:You wouldn't protect me.
Speaker C:You wouldn't talk about it to nobody.
Speaker C:But if somebody asked you on the right day, at the right time, while you were in the right mood, you'd give all the wrong answers.
Speaker A:So you said, if they put in a box band and she ain't gonna lose nothing, she gonna snitch.
Speaker C:It's not even about snitching.
Speaker C:It's like, most of the time, my mom is real, like, real tight to the vest.
Speaker C:Like, hey, yeah.
Speaker C:My mom is really not a gossiper.
Speaker C:Well, it's about two people.
Speaker C:She is.
Speaker C:But for the most part, she's really kind of a.
Speaker C:To herself.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But I'm just saying, in the right mood, let's.
Speaker C:Let's say some.
Speaker C:Some happened.
Speaker C:She was in a bad mood, and then somebody was like, but ain't you working with Tico?
Speaker C:She's already in a bad mood.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So you're saying she can't be in charge of the secrets?
Speaker C:Oh, no, no.
Speaker C:My.
Speaker C:My mom can be in.
Speaker C:My mom can only be in charge of one person's secrets, and that's herself.
Speaker C:Now, my mom.
Speaker C:My mom ain't no snitch.
Speaker C:But what I'm talking about is, like, if.
Speaker C:If it's a secret that affected her at some point in time in the right.
Speaker C:In the right atmosphere, she'll give enough of the information where she might as well tell the whole story.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker C:Because, you know, they do that old slick, that old passive aggressive thing where they said, tell part of it, but it'd be like, you know what?
Speaker C:But I ain't gonna get into all that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, it ain't.
Speaker C:It ain't none of my business.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:Hey, just let them know where the body's buried next time.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker C:It ain't a full fledged snitch.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:Wait a minute, hold on.
Speaker B:What's a full fledged niche?
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because she ain't saying that did it right there.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker C:But she's like, hey, hey, I don't know who did it, but, you know, I'm kind of looking in the general direction of somebody that could have had something to do with it.
Speaker B:I ain't gonna call no names.
Speaker C:But yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It ain't none of my business.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:I wouldn't trust so and so.
Speaker C:But, you know, look, I ain't.
Speaker C:I ain't trying to say nothing.
Speaker C:I ain't trying to be involved.
Speaker C:Don't you.
Speaker C:I love when they do that.
Speaker C:I ain't trying to get involved.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:I'm just saying my son's wife is ugly.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:I ain't going no further than that.
Speaker A:Yeah, like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker C:But yeah, like, I feel like the dad situation just like, yo, yeah, he fire his ass.
Speaker C:Do the job.
Speaker C:You ain't doing the job.
Speaker C:You ain't doing the job.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We can talk about it next week.
Speaker C:Hopefully you have another job because you can't work here no more.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, man, the way the relationship between my moms and sons and dads and sons are entirely different.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:Because Like I said.
Speaker B:And I expect my dad to, like I said, I expect him to put a knife through my chest because he was asked to do so.
Speaker B:I, I expect that.
Speaker C:And again, dad can't make nobody mad at you, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because the same thing I said your mom could do.
Speaker C:Ain't nobody about to turn on you for your dad.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker C:Like, ain't nobody about to be like, oh, you did your dad wrong.
Speaker C:Like, don't know if I can about that.
Speaker C:Like you got to do some egregious to your dad.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker A:But I mean, and I think real talk man, when it, when it's all said and done, I don't think unless it was something that I knew that they were skilled at, like excellent skilled at doing, I probably would never hire my parents to do anything with me.
Speaker C:I don't care how scared they are.
Speaker C:I just wouldn't do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know cuz I mom like, like a said man, mom's real, mom's real cool.
Speaker A:And like the only time we would get into an argument is if I 100%, hey, I need it done this way.
Speaker A:But I thought it looked better.
Speaker A:Why are we asking questions?
Speaker B:He said I thought it looked better.
Speaker B:And that's where it starts.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker C:And that's exactly what I was talking about with my mom.
Speaker C:Like she's so used to just being the in control thing now.
Speaker C:If, if she tells the story, she'll, she'll completely refute what I'm saying.
Speaker C:She'd be like, no, I can do.
Speaker C:And I'm, I'm like look, that's cute that you think that said that's cute.
Speaker C:And, and, and you know, in spirit maybe, maybe that's what you feel.
Speaker C:Maybe in spirit you are doing that.
Speaker A:But yeah, when you dreaming.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I've seen you in action.
Speaker C:You know, I've seen, I've seen you get mad at a 90 year old woman for walking in her own kitchen.
Speaker A:I got receipts, baby.
Speaker A:I got receipts.
Speaker A:How you get mad at somebody walking their own.
Speaker A:That's just like hey, I'm going to.
Speaker C:Use the bathroom because she's in the way.
Speaker C:I told her just go sit down somewhere.
Speaker C:It's her house.
Speaker C:I, I get what you're saying.
Speaker C:You're trying, you're saying, hey, you've done this for the family for a long time.
Speaker C:It's your time to let us do it.
Speaker C:But you also got understand her house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like if, if she ain't ready to put the spoon down.
Speaker C:You ain't gonna smack that spoon.
Speaker C:Like, if, if she, if she wants to cook something in that kitchen, she gonna cook something in that kitchen regardless.
Speaker A:If you there or not.
Speaker C:And there's been plenty in my mom, My mom comes to me because she says I'm the bad guy.
Speaker C:She gets, she get trying to get me to be the bad guy to my grandma.
Speaker C:Would you go tell your grandma to sit down?
Speaker C:And, And I'm like, no.
Speaker C:I'm going.
Speaker B:He said, no,.
Speaker C:No, here's the thing.
Speaker C:I'm not going to tell her.
Speaker C:I'm going to ask her or I'm going to say, hey, grandma, I'mma get this.
Speaker C:I got it.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker C:Please, grandma, go sit down.
Speaker A:We got you.
Speaker C:Let me get it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:But I'm like, it's a different tone.
Speaker C:Like, she is, she gets upset.
Speaker C:She's like, I wish she go sit down somewhere.
Speaker C:And I'm like, that's your mom and this is her house.
Speaker C:Like, I don't come in your house going, I wish you would sit down somewhere.
Speaker C:Could you prove, could you imagine me going to her house?
Speaker C:Like when we were doing the cookouts or something over there and me being like, mom, would you go sit your ass down, man?
Speaker A:First of all, I, I have learned, I have learned at a, at a, at a young age.
Speaker A:Unless you cooking in the kitchen, your ass.
Speaker A:I got no reason to be there.
Speaker A:Straight up.
Speaker A:I, I don't hang in kitchens.
Speaker A:I'm not cooking in.
Speaker A:Because that's how, that's how you get put to work.
Speaker A:I ain't got time for that.
Speaker C:I, I, every time I go to my grandma's house, even my mom and my grandma in the kitchen, my mom's in the kitchen.
Speaker C:First thing I, you need any help with anything?
Speaker C:As soon as she gives me the note, deuces, which, which rarely I get to know.
Speaker C:I'm, I'm always gonna get something because free labor, they're like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Don't nobody turn down free labor.
Speaker A:I mean, that's why we here, right?
Speaker A:Having real talk.
Speaker C:But yeah, it's like, yo, like she, my mom got to be in charge.
Speaker C:So yeah, I, I can't, I couldn't have my mom working for me, cuz I just, and, and part, maybe a lot of it's on me too, because part of me would be like, hey, I got some, I got some old feelings reserved too.
Speaker C:So every time she tried to, you know, take liberty with something, I'D be like.
Speaker C:Like, I'd have old.
Speaker C:I have a flashback about this ain't your house like this.
Speaker C:I'm in charge here.
Speaker C:Like, have a.
Speaker C:Have a lean on me moment.
Speaker C:When he was talking to Joe Frazier, he's like, contrary to popular belief, I'm the head in charge.
Speaker C:Which is one of the greatest moments of movie.
Speaker C:I'm the head.
Speaker C:Come on, lunch.
Speaker A:You can call me Crazy Joe or.
Speaker B:You can call me Batman, but see, that's that, that, that.
Speaker B:That goes to prove yet again that men.
Speaker A:And men are.
Speaker B:Yeah, because men relate.
Speaker B:Cuz like when he said all that, then he said, come on, let's go to lunch.
Speaker B:You can't do that with your mom.
Speaker B:You can't do that with your wife.
Speaker B:You can't do that with anyone.
Speaker C:Yeah, Joe going to joke with him on the way out.
Speaker C:You think you bad.
Speaker C:You think you something else, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's super crazy, man, because, like, I remember my parents came and stayed here, you know, for a couple days with me because I had some appointments, man.
Speaker A:You think my mom looked at my kitchen?
Speaker A:Hell, no.
Speaker A:She was just like, what's for dinner?
Speaker A:I mean, what's for dinner?
Speaker A:I mean, I. I got distracted.
Speaker A:My foot.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, we order you cooking.
Speaker A:Like, oh, I didn't realize that I was running this.
Speaker A:Well, you are.
Speaker C:We got different.
Speaker C:We got a different dynamic on that because my mom will respect the house, but if ain't nobody cooked, she gonna go.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker C:She gonna figure out something to eat.
Speaker C:Like, she.
Speaker C:She gonna go in that kitchen.
Speaker C:And that's just what it is.
Speaker C:And I'm not gonna argue with her.
Speaker C:I'm like, hey, cool, whatever.
Speaker A:Well, no, I thought it was real respect.
Speaker C:Now what she will do is give the courtesy.
Speaker C:She'll come up to me and be like, is anybody cooking before.
Speaker C:Before.
Speaker C:Before I do this?
Speaker C:Is anybody else going to.
Speaker C:Which I respect.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I respect that.
Speaker C:Which usually when she's here, like, you know, usually when she comes over, I'm already.
Speaker C:I've already made something.
Speaker C:Because, you know, I've noticed she.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She really likes coming moments after the grill's done.
Speaker C:She's.
Speaker C:She's good.
Speaker A:She's good.
Speaker A:She know when food be happening, and.
Speaker C:Then she's not hungry.
Speaker C:But she always says, well, I'm gonna take me something to go home with.
Speaker C:And then she takes her food and she'll go, you know, yeah, this would be my lunch for the entire week.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, come on, mom like you know you're gonna eat that as soon as you get to the crib.
Speaker C:Like, oh yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah, it's crazy because like like really like my mom is cool to the other side of the pillow, man.
Speaker A:Even when we go to like my brother's house, man.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:Both my brother's house, man.
Speaker A:My mom's like this, this basically this ain't my place.
Speaker A:I'mma sit right here.
Speaker A:My mom chill out until you ask me to do something and then I get up and do it.
Speaker A:But I was just like, I remember we were here.
Speaker A:She was like, so what's up for breakfast?
Speaker A:And I was like, well yeah, I won't like what we doing.
Speaker A:But I didn't expect her to go and start because Cooking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because that's not.
Speaker A:I guess for me, not that if she did that have been awesome.
Speaker A:But like I just didn't expect her to do something like that.
Speaker A:That's just not.
Speaker A:I guess I was, I. I knew enough to know that mom, mom and dad, they respect the people's houses at the end, you know, like.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm not real big on that.
Speaker C:I get that.
Speaker C:My real big on that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like mom told me like even the whole marriage thing, like I know.
Speaker A:I remember my mom told me one time, she was like, I don't care who you marry, you the one that's got to sleep with us.
Speaker A:And I was just like, that's some cold blooded.
Speaker A:But I appreciate that like yo.
Speaker A:Because I mean she was just.
Speaker A:I want you to be.
Speaker C:I like how your mom said that.
Speaker C:Your mom said it in a, you know, like a real respectful, I just want you to be happy way.
Speaker C:Because you just, you do know that a lot of black moms that say that in a very negative, condescending way.
Speaker C:They say that after they see a chick that they don't like and then they'll be like, well look, you the one that's got to sleep with her.
Speaker C:It's the same scent, but it don't always mean the same thing.
Speaker A:Now she's never.
Speaker A:I've heard it said that way before to people not my mom tell us to be, but I've, I've heard it said that way.
Speaker A:Nah, she's not like that.
Speaker A:She's pretty much, I just want you to be happy.
Speaker A:Because when it's all said and done, I mean it's all about you, you know.
Speaker C:I've heard my mom say it in both ways.
Speaker C:I've heard my mom say it in both ways.
Speaker A:For some reason I'm not Shocked there.
Speaker A:But, yeah, man.
Speaker A:Like, I think it's interesting.
Speaker A:So Moco Cowboy, like, how close I am to that male.
Speaker A:And I would say moko Cowboy.
Speaker A:Look at this set.
Speaker A:And that helps you out with that.
Speaker A:I ain't nowhere close to that male.
Speaker A:And honestly, even if I was, I wouldn't tell nobody just because I'm just like that Brit's like, my uncles got smaller than me when I went to college.
Speaker A:They can be mad.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I 100% understand that.
Speaker C:I'm not worried about the uncles turning on me in the family.
Speaker C:I'm worried about all the other women, man.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:And not because I think somebody gonna do something to me, but once again, that annoys me, man, to see a whole bunch of women throwing out their emotions at me about stuff that they ain't got to do with.
Speaker C:Oh, man, like, I'd rather be in a Friday the 13th movie, man.
Speaker C:Like, I. I'd rather be the nigga that's gonna die before the credits, man.
Speaker C:Like,.
Speaker A:Yo, you know one thing I'm really good at?
Speaker A:I'm really good at reading a family room and realizing my black ass don't need to be there.
Speaker A:I have no problem in being like, nah, this ain't me, and walk back out.
Speaker A:I am with families, with the family stuff.
Speaker A:I'm really good at that because it's like.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, it's always somebody saying the tail end of something and half.
Speaker A:Not even half time.
Speaker A:Some of it.
Speaker A:You might think they talking about your ass.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:What we're not gonna do is have Ruben.
Speaker A:Ruben Defender.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:Nope, we ain't doing that, we out.
Speaker A:I ain't got time for this.
Speaker A:And, yeah, whether they talk about me or not, it's just like.
Speaker A:Because, you know, you walk to a room that everybody look at you all guilty.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:It sounds like I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker A:Thanks, Deuces.
Speaker C:You know, I've.
Speaker C:I've never had.
Speaker C:I've never worried about the family dynamic at any of, like, those functions.
Speaker C:Because ain't nobody going to say to me, because I'm.
Speaker C:I'm Grandma.
Speaker C:I'm with Grandma.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like, I'm not gonna.
Speaker C:I'm not gonna get nervous until my grandma's no longer there.
Speaker C:Then I just can't.
Speaker C:Then I just can't be there no more because, like, I don't know half them people, but, like, I know.
Speaker C:I know everybody's cool with my grandma, and ain't nobody trying to get on my grandma's bad side because, like, what if.
Speaker C:If my grandma ever was like, I don't like that person.
Speaker C:I think, I think half a peas bird would turn on that person because, like, just.
Speaker C:I don't know nobody that that like, thinks says anything negative.
Speaker C:Granted, I know it's my grandma, but like, I just don't know anybody that has ever said anything negative about my grandma.
Speaker C:And I can't say it about anybody else in my family, but not her.
Speaker A:But I think, I think to a point, man, that's.
Speaker A:That's how grandmas are for the most part.
Speaker A:I would say same experience.
Speaker A:Like my mom's mom.
Speaker A:I mean, we call her big mama.
Speaker A:And like, everybody in caper knew who big mama was.
Speaker A:They Daisy.
Speaker A:They knew Daisy.
Speaker A:Daisy certified.
Speaker A:Like, they knew who she was.
Speaker A:Like, oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, you want them sturdy boys.
Speaker A:Oh, you good?
Speaker A:My last name Brown.
Speaker A:But I could be stern today.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:Like, you know, it's stuff like that, man.
Speaker A:However, the one thing I love about my business, mama, man, she ain't scared of nobody.
Speaker A:And she'll call you every name in the book to your face.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And, and I'm not saying he.
Speaker A:She'll call you everything.
Speaker A:She'll.
Speaker A:She'll drop it and be like, what.
Speaker A:What you gonna do?
Speaker A:And your ass ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker A:And she taught me how to play cards, man.
Speaker A:She taught me how to play spades.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:You know, back in my family, spades can be a big deal because there's no place ever to learn how to talk more than playing spades.
Speaker A:Whether it's what.
Speaker A:Because you like.
Speaker A:Because you can't like, talk like cursing and stuff, but you gotta talk that junk and, and, and rated G, maybe a little pg.
Speaker A:But you got to get your point across.
Speaker C:I mean, ag be knowing spades ain't the only thing you can do that in.
Speaker C:Because dominoes has that same effect 100%.
Speaker A:Yeah, we do a lot of domin.
Speaker C:My grandma played domino, so.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Did somebody go domino?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker A:We a.
Speaker C:How it was there.
Speaker C:Like mess around.
Speaker C:Mess around and got messed up in that junk.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, yeah, man.
Speaker A:Spades.
Speaker A:I mean, we've talked about the family spades games in the past on this show.
Speaker B:Not for the week.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:If you're a punk ass, you're not playing.
Speaker A:You're not playing with my family because your feeling you might win, but your feelings could be hurt.
Speaker A:You're gonna feel like, I'm the worst.
Speaker A:I'm the most worthless on the planet.
Speaker A:Because I mean, I ain't saying we get Personal.
Speaker A:I'm just saying sometimes people be tiptoeing, you know, they get to that line and they stop knowing full well you about there.
Speaker A:But the other thing is we all know is we all know his last right.
Speaker A:You know, very, very few times have I seen, seen people family get personally like offended on the spades table.
Speaker A:Like real like, like I'm gonna flip this table.
Speaker A:Because especially if bitma on the table, what's not gonna happen is that we not doing that.
Speaker A:Especially if she got a, a hand to take somebody to Boston, she might get up and whoop your ass and you ain't gonna do nothing about it but sit there and take it.
Speaker A:Because you know she had a whole bunch of kids for a reason.
Speaker A:I mean she had her own football team, man.
Speaker A:Like stop playing.
Speaker A:So like yo, that in itself I knew.
Speaker A:I mean she a tough woman, boys.
Speaker A:I can't remember.
Speaker A:I think it was somewhere like 16, 18 kids.
Speaker A:Kids, bro.
Speaker A:Man, you wanna, you want a woman to have three kids, you act up.
Speaker A:They acting like it's the end of the damn world.
Speaker A:But they were having double digit children.
Speaker A:She went from being not pregnant to pregnant.
Speaker A:Like I can't imagine.
Speaker A:And then you know, having.
Speaker A:There's some, there's a set of twins in there, bro.
Speaker A:Like shout out, shout out to.
Speaker A:That is wild.
Speaker C:That is wild to think.
Speaker C:Yeah, like there, there was a, there's a generation of women who were like pregnant for like 20 years of their life, bro.
Speaker A:That's, that was their job is to be pregnant.
Speaker A:Literally pregnant.
Speaker A:And I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker A:I mean you gotta, you got, you gotta build a legacy.
Speaker A:I guess back in the day that's what it was all about.
Speaker A:So you know, that's why it was more about labor.
Speaker C:Well, thought it was more about labor.
Speaker B:It really was.
Speaker B:I say for, for black people, it really was.
Speaker A:I was trying to be nice about it, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, why try to be nice?
Speaker B:Let's tell the truth.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Hey, you know, is what it is sometimes, you know this is a PG show.
Speaker B:It is not.
Speaker A:It is not.
Speaker A:But we be trying.
Speaker A:So Britt Malone says sorry, he's the atheist in the southern Christian family.
Speaker A:Oh, power to the people on that one.
Speaker C:Yeah, you, you, you on the island at that family cookout.
Speaker A:100% Moo cowboy.
Speaker A:Is there a junior space table?
Speaker A:The C space table.
Speaker A:Which one?
Speaker B:There only one space table.
Speaker B:I've only seen one.
Speaker B:No, no, no, they have a junior space table.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:When you grew up, growing up, you don't get to pay with the big people.
Speaker B:I realized that.
Speaker B:But I didn't know.
Speaker B:I thought that you just had to like, come of age and then you get invited.
Speaker A:Oh, no, no.
Speaker A:You gotta play.
Speaker C:You gotta get drafted, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You gotta realize you gotta get drafted.
Speaker B:That's what I mean by invited.
Speaker B:But I didn't.
Speaker A:College, baby.
Speaker B:There's another table.
Speaker B:I have never experienced that before.
Speaker A:Just like.
Speaker A:Just like Moby.
Speaker A:We talk about the kids food table.
Speaker A:It's another.
Speaker B:It's another trigger that, man.
Speaker B:Bro, why you got a trigger?
Speaker C:It's not even a trigger, man.
Speaker C:It just is what it is, man.
Speaker B:Kind of twitch when you talk about it.
Speaker B:I know you do.
Speaker C:Nah, man.
Speaker C:Like, I. I did for a long time, but now I'm just like, man, I. I missed the need for the kids table.
Speaker A:I mean, you ain't never gonna be at it no more, so why you care about it?
Speaker C:Well, I mean, true, but it's not about that.
Speaker C:Like, I. I wasn't so upset that the kids table existed.
Speaker C:I was so upset that.
Speaker C:That it was such a waiting list to get off of the kids table.
Speaker B:Because literally people had to die.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And now.
Speaker C:And now I'm just like, there's nobody left to, you know, keep anybody from the main table anymore.
Speaker C:Like, we don't even really have a kids table anymore because we ain't got enough people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:To really fill the regular table table.
Speaker C:We got complete strangers at the regular table.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, hold on.
Speaker C:I don't even know this person.
Speaker C:Me, at the main table.
Speaker C:Like, I feel like guests should have to go to the.
Speaker C:To the kids table.
Speaker C:Like, I mean, look, I know you 60 something, but, like, this is the first time you've been here like you were rookie.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I would say the cool thing, I think that, you know, ag and our family did.
Speaker A:All the cousins were.
Speaker A:Yeah, we had the kids table.
Speaker A:You know, we just own that.
Speaker A:It's not even the kids t. What's the cousin's table?
Speaker A:However, now that as.
Speaker A:As much the older we get, like, the little cousins got to grow up to come to the big cousin table.
Speaker A:And so there are times where, like, I think the last time we really got together for a holiday, I can't remember where we were.
Speaker A:And one of the cousin.
Speaker A:The younger cousins had just turned 18, and so she got to come to the big cousin's table and everybody was like, you finally made it.
Speaker A:You made it to the real table.
Speaker A:Like, and then she, you know, she messed up.
Speaker A:I think it was there.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker A:She messed up and she brought a significant other with her because, look, man, she had to learn the hard way.
Speaker A:You just can't be bringing significant others to family events.
Speaker B:Well, we'll back up now.
Speaker B:It could have meant he could have.
Speaker A:Been.
Speaker B:Everything to her, which qualifies him to be there.
Speaker A:Yeah, but then Karen brought that dude to Kevin's wedding and that.
Speaker B:That was huge.
Speaker B:I didn't see that coming, bro.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:That is legendary.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:My cousin Karen, it walks on water.
Speaker B:Except for that moment, because I presume that he was like.
Speaker B:Because we all looked at each other.
Speaker B:Oh, snap.
Speaker C:You the man, baby.
Speaker B:Trying to find out.
Speaker B:They were just.
Speaker B:I mean, it was like.
Speaker A:I mean, she won't.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She won't buy that life.
Speaker B:But why was he there?
Speaker B:I. I will never forget that, bro.
Speaker A:Cuz I don't bring friends to weddings.
Speaker B:Me neither.
Speaker B:I mean, that's just a general.
Speaker B:That's just a general rule.
Speaker B:But when Karen did that, yo, I was like, huh?
Speaker B:But anyway, we.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker A:I mean, shit, it's just.
Speaker A:Yeah, you bring a girlfriend to a wedding, you get talked about.
Speaker A:Cause your mom walks around all the guys.
Speaker B:Oh, that's hilarious, bro.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, but.
Speaker B:But Aunt Shirley couldn't have been any more proud in that moment.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:She's got one son married and another son with somebody.
Speaker B:That's on deck.
Speaker B:I mean, it was a great day for her.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:Oh, man, she was happy as all you get up.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, I mean, you know, hey, I ain't mad at her.
Speaker A:I mean, she did what?
Speaker B:You were kind of irritated.
Speaker B:I mean, I remember that you.
Speaker B:Cuz, you were like, mama, what you doing?
Speaker A:I mean, can I get a hands up, Mama?
Speaker B:No, like, what we doing exactly?
Speaker A:Because that is like one of the first times.
Speaker A:Not one of the first times, but first time when I was older that I. I saw my mother take charge on some.
Speaker A:Some that I didn't understand why she was taking charge of.
Speaker A:Of.
Speaker A:But she was just like, you're sitting behind us.
Speaker A:You're sitting over here.
Speaker A:Mama, this ain't your wedding.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It is her wedding.
Speaker B:Apparently this is her second son getting married.
Speaker B:Well, actually he's the third.
Speaker B:But her son.
Speaker B:This is the second time she's been.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:That's why.
Speaker B:Come on, man.
Speaker A:And she was telling people where to sit.
Speaker A:And lucky I was Usher.
Speaker A:Usher.
Speaker A:So I was standing back so she couldn't tell me to do like.
Speaker A:But I was just like, she's telling my girl.
Speaker A:Well, you gonna sit beside.
Speaker A:Behind me?
Speaker A:And I was like.
Speaker A:She looked at me, and I was like, I don't know this person.
Speaker A:Like, that's.
Speaker B:That's something you kind of do, though.
Speaker B:If you're really paying attention, you kind of do.
Speaker A:Yeah, but not me.
Speaker C:But you really weren't prepared for that.
Speaker C:That, though.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I was always.
Speaker B:That's why I was so funny.
Speaker A:I really wasn't.
Speaker A:I really was.
Speaker C:Man.
Speaker C:Man, that's an error on your part.
Speaker C:You dropped the ball.
Speaker A:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:To be fair.
Speaker A:To be fair, this was the first time that one of my brothers got married, like, at, like, a service and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Okay, now, because my oldest brother did.
Speaker A:Not get married here, so it was a whole new experience because I ain't never seen mama like that.
Speaker C:I mean, but you.
Speaker C:You was the person that was like, man, when it comes to family functions, I'm real good at reading the room.
Speaker C:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:How you not read the room, man?
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:I was like, 15 years younger back then.
Speaker C:I won't ready, Ag.
Speaker C:I'm not even part of the family.
Speaker C:I would have known that.
Speaker C:Like, if you'd have told me, I'd have been like, hey, this.
Speaker C:You better prepare her.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, yeah, it's just a checklist.
Speaker C:You need to let her know about the crazy people.
Speaker C:People that's gonna talk to you much.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You got.
Speaker C:You got to come in.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:If you don't prepare her from that because that chicken mess your relationship up.
Speaker A:No, let me.
Speaker A:Let me explain.
Speaker A:Let me explain.
Speaker A:She knew Mom.
Speaker A:Like, they knew each other because I had been dating for a minute, so, like, the family knew her.
Speaker A:I did not know mom would do that because.
Speaker C:Okay, does she know everybody else in your family?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Like, she knew.
Speaker A:She knew the people there.
Speaker A:And see, that's the whole thing, right?
Speaker A:Like, I mean, Ag, before he got married, had a service.
Speaker A:Who was before that.
Speaker A:That there was an actual service that.
Speaker B:We were all at.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:I think it was an ad.
Speaker A:And that one, I don't remember that.
Speaker B:He might not have been there for that, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I mean, I. I just feel like.
Speaker B:Okay, I just feel like a lot of my laughter at you was the fact that any of this was a surprise.
Speaker C:Like, I just said, it don't seem like it should have been, because, like.
Speaker B:I said, man, it's just like.
Speaker B:Okay, think about it.
Speaker B:See, I didn't know Dale didn't get married here.
Speaker B:I thought this was her second time around, but it's still.
Speaker B:Oh, no, these are her sons.
Speaker B:These are super important days.
Speaker B:So anytime Dale.
Speaker B:Something that significant is happening, people usually.
Speaker B:Mom.
Speaker B:Are going to take over.
Speaker B:So what I'm saying to you, what I said to you that day is just like.
Speaker B:Like I just said two minutes ago, your brother.
Speaker B:Your younger brother is getting married, and you have a significant other.
Speaker B:Presumably, she's on deck.
Speaker B:And I learned this from my mom.
Speaker B:Cause, see, I don't think my mom cares about you anything.
Speaker B:She didn't spend a lot of time liking women.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So it's just like, when I was dating somebody, there was always something wrong.
Speaker B:And she wasn't necessarily wrong about that either, but she wasn't like.
Speaker B:Anyway, it's a whole nother podcast for that.
Speaker B:But what I'm saying is, what I found out later was it was really important to her that I was getting married.
Speaker B:So for Aunt Shirley to be in a situation where her son is getting locked in and her other son has somebody on deck, it does not get any better than that, because those.
Speaker B:Those are huge.
Speaker B:I am learning that those are huge moments for moms.
Speaker B:Cause my mom, like.
Speaker B:And I was standing up, waiting for Lauren to come down, and my mom pulled me, kind of pulled me down and said, I'm proud of you.
Speaker B:Do you know how rare those words are coming from Ann Riddick?
Speaker B:Bruh, Come on, man.
Speaker B:And so for you not to understand any of this and be shocked and amazed, I can't get over it.
Speaker B:That's what was so funny.
Speaker B:Like I said, man, it's just like, I just don't.
Speaker B:Like you said.
Speaker B:Like Mo said.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Like Mo said.
Speaker B:He was like, you are the master of saying you read in the room, and this is, like, the room that should be read the easiest.
Speaker B:These are people, you know.
Speaker B:You know all the rules and the protocols.
Speaker B:And you saw your mom.
Speaker B:Mom.
Speaker B:Schlep your girlfriend around to everybody that was anybody, and you didn't see that coming.
Speaker A:I'm like, I didn't see it coming because I'd never.
Speaker A:I mean, I've never experienced it.
Speaker A:So it's not like.
Speaker A:It's not like I expected this to happen.
Speaker A:Like, y' all were just as shocked as we that I was.
Speaker B:I wasn't shocked.
Speaker B:I was just laughing.
Speaker C:They were shocked at you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm shocked at your lack of preparedness.
Speaker B:How do you not know what's gonna happen?
Speaker C:Yeah, I wouldn't have to have gone through that before to know that was coming Yeah, I don't know how.
Speaker A:I don't know how I'm supposed to know that was coming, because I ain't never seen that before.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker B:Only thing I'm saying is your mom is super quiet and she's flatlined for me.
Speaker B:That's my experience with her.
Speaker A:She kind.
Speaker B:However, on that day, I had never seen her experience so much pride at one time, man.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker C:And even.
Speaker B:Even then, she was still here.
Speaker B:She was still here.
Speaker B:But at the same time, I'm like, this was different.
Speaker B:This was next level on Shirley.
Speaker B:And I'm like, this is a big deal for her.
Speaker A:This was Super Saiyan.
Speaker A:She was Super Saiyan mom, bro.
Speaker A:She had the white hair flying up and everything.
Speaker A:I thought she was gonna shoot some beams and out.
Speaker A:Like, I ain't never seen that.
Speaker A:Well, like, I was.
Speaker A:Was like, I would like, I'm literally like, what is going on?
Speaker B:Well, I hear what you're saying, Reuben, but I'm still shocked that you didn't really see this coming, because I'mma say this one more time.
Speaker B:She's got three sons.
Speaker B:She's already got one locked down.
Speaker B:She's got one that's getting ready.
Speaker B:Actually, at the point of what we're talking about, he is married.
Speaker B:He is officially married.
Speaker B:And so now you at the.
Speaker B:Because, I mean, I don't know if you had a significant other before, but I know this is the first one of your girlfriends I had ever seen.
Speaker B:And I was like, when I saw her there, I was like, this is legit.
Speaker B:It was a big day for everybody, Cuz, Karen's bringing some dude and you got some woman.
Speaker B:And I'm like.
Speaker B:And the idea that you didn't understand the significance of the day, I'm like, bro, how do you know I understood.
Speaker A:The significance of the day?
Speaker A:I didn't understand the.
Speaker A:I didn't understand her reaction because I've never seen my mother look like that.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's okay.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I, I, I made it through it.
Speaker A:Like, it is what it is.
Speaker C:I'm cool with you being like, I ain't know her reaction was going to be that strong.
Speaker C:I ain't know it was going to be that.
Speaker C:But, but just.
Speaker C:But you kind of have this, like, I'm totally clueless on this was even a possibility thing.
Speaker C:And that's, I think, where you're missing me.
Speaker C:Me and Ag, we're just like, how did you not even, like, piece this together that it could go down like This.
Speaker A:I guess for me, it wasn't about.
Speaker A:It wasn't about me at all.
Speaker A:So that was fine.
Speaker A:It was about Kevin and.
Speaker A:And stuff like that.
Speaker A:So I was like, well, you know, it's cool, because this date.
Speaker A:This is him.
Speaker A:This is him.
Speaker A:Here's what it was.
Speaker B:Well, and the other thing.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:The other thing we leaving out, too, and I'm being 100 with this, because I know my mom was a little irritated, but you are the only one with a black woman on your arm, and I'm not gonna.
Speaker B:You can't tell me that doesn't.
Speaker B:That doesn't carry weight, because I know for a fact my mom was a little disappointed.
Speaker B:I'm up there, married a white woman.
Speaker B:There's no way in the world that she wasn't.
Speaker C:And so you just added a whole nother layer right there.
Speaker C:AG2 like, Yo, Reuben, now I'm thieving.
Speaker C:Think even more.
Speaker C:Like, how did you not have an idea?
Speaker B:Well, because your girlfriend was my complexion, so it ain't like we could mistake it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, and Kevin, you know, hey, love Cynthia, but guess what?
Speaker A:I mean, Dominique.
Speaker B:Love Dominique, but guess what?
Speaker B:And it's just like, you brought.
Speaker B:So, hey, it's just like black people felt about Barack Obama, man.
Speaker B:It's like, use the one.
Speaker A:Use the one.
Speaker C:He was the one, bruh.
Speaker B:And again, like I said before, this is not.
Speaker B:This is not a slam on anybody, because I told you, my mom was.
Speaker B:She had to be disappointed.
Speaker A:And that's okay.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:I didn't even know that my mama.
Speaker B:Won't want me marrying a white woman.
Speaker C:Are you serious?
Speaker A:I mean, man, it was all she.
Speaker B:Could do to not throw up in her mouth.
Speaker B:Come on, man.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:Well, how am I supposed to know that?
Speaker B:Well, I'm.
Speaker B:Well, I thought people would probably take it for granted, but anyway, what I'm saying to you is there was so much going on, and at that moment, it's like, bro, how do you not know that your mom is on top of the world right now?
Speaker A:Well, I. I figured she was on top of the world.
Speaker A:I just didn't figure I was up there, because it won't.
Speaker A:Once again.
Speaker A:I mean, I see you, Moby.
Speaker A:You're just like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker C:But because I'm thinking.
Speaker C:I get what you're saying is it wasn't your.
Speaker C:Your day.
Speaker C:However, it's your brother, and you brought a significant other.
Speaker C:Something that you.
Speaker C:You don't never.
Speaker C:You said you didn't normally bring them around the family functions like this.
Speaker B:You didn't.
Speaker A:So I get it.
Speaker C:You've been dating for a while and everybody knew her.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:Yeah, it wasn't the first interaction.
Speaker C:But you are at a wedding.
Speaker C:Like, let's take the family dynamic out of it together.
Speaker C:We all have a stereotypical view of how women feel about weddings in general.
Speaker C:So your mom sees one of her sons getting married.
Speaker C:They all.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker C:She's already thinking about how awesome.
Speaker C:One of my sons getting married.
Speaker C:The marriage, the wedding.
Speaker C:And you walk in with significant other.
Speaker C:All she's thinking about is, yes.
Speaker C:I got to prepare her so I can do this again.
Speaker C:We can have another one of these events soon.
Speaker C:Like, you should have known.
Speaker C:Going in to.
Speaker C:Hey, man, there's a possibility you are going to be voted next on deck whether I like it or not.
Speaker A:And I will be honest with you.
Speaker A:This is straight up.
Speaker A:And I don't think I ever told ag this.
Speaker A:I thought about that.
Speaker A:But it all changed when Karen brought her date to the wedding.
Speaker A:I was like, somebody go talk about somebody else now.
Speaker A:Everybody shocked at Karen.
Speaker B:You did say that.
Speaker A:Because everybody was shocked to Karen.
Speaker A:I was like, yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Because Karen's never brought anybody.
Speaker B:And that's what made it so wrong.
Speaker B:Because I thought this dude was locked in.
Speaker B:I thought this dude.
Speaker B:Dude had basically.
Speaker B:I thought that.
Speaker B:That he had a ring in his pocket and he was going to ask her when the wedding was over not to steal Kevin's thunder.
Speaker B:I thought that's who he was.
Speaker B:Because Karen has never done that.
Speaker B:And to find out, they just friends, like, what?
Speaker B:I didn't get it, bro.
Speaker A:Deflated balloon, man.
Speaker B:Deflated balloon.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker C:I will tell you, I never had this.
Speaker C:This type of incident happen in my family because I had uncles, like, to learn from.
Speaker C:Like my great uncles, like my uncle Benji.
Speaker C:My mom used to tell me about how my uncle Benji used to get so excited every family function.
Speaker C:And I was like, why?
Speaker C:She was.
Speaker C:He was like, cuz.
Speaker C:He was always like, I wonder who Junior's gonna bring.
Speaker C:My uncle Junior.
Speaker C:Because apparently my uncle Junior will bring another.
Speaker C:A different chick every time to the family function.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker C:Until he got married.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:So it was like.
Speaker C:Like I learned early on, hey, man, if you really want to desensitize your family to this thing, just bring some chicks early.
Speaker C:Do it early.
Speaker C:So, like, when you walk in with somebody, it ain't a special occasion.
Speaker C:It's just like, who's this?
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:So, like, I Remember the first person that came to one of my family functions?
Speaker C:My grandma's.
Speaker C:It was one of my grandma's Thanksgiving.
Speaker C:It was one of my.
Speaker C:Yeah, my.
Speaker C:My ex girlfriend.
Speaker C:It high school.
Speaker C:I brought her and I prepared her because I'm just like, hey, oh, yeah, yeah, your family.
Speaker C:You think your family wild.
Speaker C:And you look at me and how calm and cool I am, and you just go, hey.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because I've been to her family functions before and her family was.
Speaker C:Was up here all the time.
Speaker C:Like, it was loud.
Speaker C:It was like every stereotypical negro function you can think of.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:Smoking, drinking, like, and yeah, perfectly fine with me.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:I was always cool, laid back.
Speaker C:I'm like, hey, man.
Speaker C:And she was always worried about me because she was like, I know you, like, all calm and everything, and I'm just like, you don't know me.
Speaker C:Like, you don't know how you don't know my life.
Speaker C:Like, I am like this as a defense mechanism.
Speaker C:This not because this is what I've been around.
Speaker C:This is because this is.
Speaker C:Is my shell.
Speaker C:This is my bubble.
Speaker C:So when she.
Speaker C:She was prepared to come to my family, she was like, oh, it's going to be.
Speaker C:You know, she met my grandma before.
Speaker C:You know, everybody's gonna be Susan.
Speaker C:I'm like, hey, hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:Everybody ain't like that.
Speaker C:Like, my grandma is the anomaly.
Speaker C:She is the anomaly.
Speaker C:Everybody else gonna be loud.
Speaker C:My Uncle Junior and my Uncle Benji were still alive then.
Speaker C:I'm just like, hey, my Uncle Benji, he.
Speaker C:He on that old black man stuff.
Speaker C:So, like, if you start talking about some young people stuff, he gonna.
Speaker C:Old black man you to death.
Speaker C:Like, y' all kids don't.
Speaker C:He gonna do that.
Speaker C:He gonna be loud.
Speaker C:He don't care about your feelings.
Speaker C:And my Uncle Junior is liable to say anything because that's just who he is.
Speaker C:That's why everybody loves him.
Speaker C:And we would buffet style.
Speaker C:You know, my grandma has a buffet st style.
Speaker C:And she was looking around, she was pointing, she's like, what's that?
Speaker C:What's that?
Speaker C:My Uncle Junior said, well, if you don't know what the hell you're doing, get the hell out the way.
Speaker C:Don't be up here acting like you ain't never ate before.
Speaker C:And I, I could see her face.
Speaker C:Like, she wanted to, like, get upset because, you know, she ain't used to nobody talking to her like that.
Speaker C:But I was also like, hey, this ain't the Place for you to pop off.
Speaker C:I promise you, this ain't what you want.
Speaker C:Just taking this stride, baby.
Speaker C:Just laughing it off.
Speaker C:And she, hey, much love.
Speaker C:She laughed it off, joked.
Speaker C:And then when she left, she was like, I really like your Uncle J.
Speaker C:Everybody likes him.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:He's got a great charm.
Speaker C:But that's because you ain't try to talk some back because it wouldn't ended well for you.
Speaker C:Because he was professional with that.
Speaker C:He was proficient.
Speaker C:That's why I became a good counter puncher.
Speaker C:Because I had to be proficient.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker C:I mean, if you desensitize the family.
Speaker C:Family to it, then every other time I brought a female around, no big deal.
Speaker C:Nobody cared.
Speaker C:It was like, hey, my mom won't go parade around.
Speaker C:My grandma won't go parade around.
Speaker C:Now the only person that I ever brought to a family function that played the game perfectly was my wife.
Speaker C:And she played it so perfect.
Speaker C:She got in good with my grandma.
Speaker C:Instantly went straight.
Speaker C:Dad was talking to her.
Speaker C:Hey.
Speaker C:Yep, you get it.
Speaker C:You understand the assignment.
Speaker C:You get in here, you're safe everywhere.
Speaker A:Nobody's going to talk about you to her without her defending you.
Speaker C:Until this day, nobody can talk about my wife or her.
Speaker A:My grandma.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Not going to happen.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:Nice.
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Speaker A:Going back to the joint.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, I'm not tiptoeing.
Speaker A:And it is what it is.
Speaker A:Verballone.
Speaker A:Yeah, those moomoos under I hate moo Moose.
Speaker A:I don't even know that came from I hate mo.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:And that's a topic for another day.
Speaker B:We've already talked about it though.
Speaker C:It's a topic for anytime somebody brings it up with you, man, y' all gonna talk about the kids table triggering me.
Speaker C:You said, look.
Speaker C:Look at his body language.
Speaker B:It's just a garment, man.
Speaker B:It's just a garment.
Speaker C:Like the moomoo personally did something to offend him.
Speaker A:He kind of did.
Speaker B:By existing.
Speaker A:By existing, you are correct.
Speaker A:So before I get to that very quick story,.
Speaker B:I didn't know we're supposed to get into that.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:But I'm watching.
Speaker A:I'm watching NFL red zone, right?
Speaker A:And I'm chilling.
Speaker A:I'm watching.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:You know, Jacksonville scores a touchdown and they show the crowd.
Speaker A:I apologize to myself later.
Speaker A:There's a woman who had like a moomoo with Jacksonville logos all on it.
Speaker A:And I was like, really?
Speaker A:Y' all show this?
Speaker A:Like, I instantly got upset, man.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Then I realized, you know, you probably need some help, man.
Speaker A:Like, cuz it literally, it.
Speaker A:It triggered me right there and I was like.
Speaker A:And I had to just like stop for a second.
Speaker A:But I'm like, yeah, them.
Speaker A:Them think they're ugly.
Speaker C:I just don't understand why it physically angers you.
Speaker C:Like it.
Speaker C:That physically angers you.
Speaker A:I don't know why, man.
Speaker A:You know, it's like so.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:It's like the opposite of a Sundance dress.
Speaker A:And I really love sundresses, but they're.
Speaker C:Not really opposite, man.
Speaker A:They look n. Man, it's the way the are built.
Speaker A:I promise you, it's like it's not built.
Speaker C:You don't have to promise me, man.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:It's your perspective, but it just.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker C:You got a dog.
Speaker B:Some of you got a dog.
Speaker A:Some are built to accentuate different things, and the others bit just situate nothing.
Speaker A:And it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:Put beside the point.
Speaker A:Brits like my friend Sheila came to our brother's wedding with me.
Speaker A:Fashion major.
Speaker A:They had her fixing dresses.
Speaker A:First of all, that's crazy.
Speaker A:As they had her fixing dresses, they're ready to have two weddings.
Speaker A:See, that's.
Speaker A:That's Todd giving too much information.
Speaker A:Like, she shouldn't have never said that.
Speaker A:Hey, can you come fix my address?
Speaker A:Nah, like, I'm on.
Speaker A:I'm on.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:I don't even know you.
Speaker C:Like, what are you doing?
Speaker A:But that's what it is.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker A:What's on your mind, man?
Speaker B:I just want to let the people out there know that you can be a black ally.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:You can be down as a black.
Speaker A:Person,.
Speaker B:But what you can't be.
Speaker B:If you have any white relationships, is pro black.
Speaker B:Everybody didn't qualify for pro black.
Speaker B:I don't qualify for pro black.
Speaker B:Don't get bit out of shape.
Speaker B:It don't mean you can't be down for the cause.
Speaker B:It just means you can't be that you don't qualify for everything.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker B:You can come to the rallies, you can, you know, post stuff on Instagram, whatever you want to do.
Speaker B:But what you.
Speaker B:You can't be as pro black.
Speaker B:Pro pro black is like being, like being a vegan, strict.
Speaker B:It's got boundaries.
Speaker B:If you don't understand that and you want to get upset, you're wasting your time.
Speaker B:I mean, you can get upset and waste your time.
Speaker B:It's up to you.
Speaker B:But we don't qualify for everything.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean you're less than sort of.
Speaker B:But you can.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You can just be who you are.
Speaker A:Except that.
Speaker B:And that's all I got on my mind.
Speaker A:All right, Moby, what's on your mind?
Speaker C:Two things, man.
Speaker C:One, my wife had a conversation with me earlier.
Speaker C:She was saying a pet peeve of hers is when we're not pet peeve of her.
Speaker C:We were listening to somebody else say a pet peeve of theirs was when somebody sends a text message to them.
Speaker C:Oh, they get a text message sent to them, and the other person doesn't respond for hours yet they're doing other things, and they're like, hey, you're not too busy, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker C:That's a red flag.
Speaker C:And I just got to thinking, I'm just like, man, cell phones really killed the game.
Speaker C:Because like, I know, I know it seems like it a distant world from now from.
Speaker C:From now.
Speaker C:Like, just like back in the day when you left that person's presence, they couldn't really get a hold of you until you saw them again.
Speaker C:Like, we didn't have cell phones.
Speaker C:I mean, you was doing it if you had a pager, but even with a pager, you had to make the choice to call, call back.
Speaker C:Like, we.
Speaker C:We understood that.
Speaker C:That there was like, hey, man, maybe you don't want to be talking all day.
Speaker C:Like, maybe that ain't your thing.
Speaker C:And you know, I joke and my wife probably does not find it funny, but I'm just like, yo, if we text him back and forth all day, when I finally see you, what we going to talk about?
Speaker C:Ain't nothing new.
Speaker C:Ain't nothing changed.
Speaker C:Like, if I come home after a day of texting you back and forth all day and the first thing you say is, how was your day?
Speaker C:Shouldn't you know?
Speaker A:We.
Speaker C:We've been in communication the last eight hours.
Speaker C:I can't be the only one that thinks that way.
Speaker C:Like, and don't get me wrong, I am a text assassin.
Speaker C:Like, I will.
Speaker C:I will text somebody before I call all the time.
Speaker C:However.
Speaker C:However, I do not text people that I'm actually going to see all the time.
Speaker C:All the time.
Speaker C:Like, I don't text Ruben all the time.
Speaker C:I might text Reuben a quick text to see what he's doing and that's it.
Speaker C:Like, because if I really need to contact him, I can call, and if not, it ain't gonna be that long before I. I see him again.
Speaker C:Now I get it.
Speaker C:Some people like the community, communication and.
Speaker C:But I'm not built that way.
Speaker C:Like, if I text you a lot, it's because I'm not planning on seeing you.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:That's just really what it is.
Speaker C:Like, if I text you a lot, I'm not gonna really see you or talk to you, like, in person anytime soon.
Speaker C:So this is my way of, like, hey, bridging the communication gap.
Speaker C:But if I'm gonna see you in, in seven hours, I don't need to be texting you all day.
Speaker C:What we doing now?
Speaker C:She would ar.
Speaker C:My wife would argue that it's not like I do a lot of talking when I get home anyway.
Speaker C:But my thing is.
Speaker C:But I could.
Speaker C:But I could.
Speaker C:I could tell you some that happened today and you wouldn't know.
Speaker C:It'd be a surprise.
Speaker A:I could.
Speaker C:I could give you like, a whole.
Speaker C:I can give you a whole bunch of cool stories that happened to me today that you didn't know anything about.
Speaker C:But if I had been texting you all day, I'd just be repeating myself or I just have to hit you with the none, like, which is what I'm going to do anyway.
Speaker C:Like, I'm being honest.
Speaker C:I'm going do that anyway.
Speaker C:Because I'm not really.
Speaker C:I don't really talk that I talk a lot at work and I don't generally come home to then start talking.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:I know that's unfair, maybe, but I have to force myself to be a people person all day when I get home.
Speaker C:I really do like to not talk.
Speaker A:For a while,.
Speaker C:But I would talk even less if we'd been texting all goddamn day.
Speaker A:Just because you ain't got to do.
Speaker C:But it's not even.
Speaker C:It's not even about having to do, man.
Speaker C:Like, I. I want to say I'm.
Speaker C:I'm consistently inconsistent on that.
Speaker C:And let me explain.
Speaker C:Like, when me and my wife were dating, we text more, but I still don't think I was, like, a constant texter.
Speaker C:Constant communicate.
Speaker C:And in all fairness, neither was she.
Speaker C:It worked.
Speaker C:When I saw her, it was like, cool, I'm excited to see you now.
Speaker C:Now we can communicate.
Speaker C:People who text all day, I don't really feel that excitement about seeing them, which is, you know, difficult for some people.
Speaker C:Like, one of my friends, she is a constant communicator.
Speaker C:I say her name.
Speaker C:Janelle.
Speaker C:Janelle is a constant communicator.
Speaker C:So for a long time, it really bothered her that I could go days without, like, communicating, and she'd be like, but I want to talk and tell you what's going on.
Speaker C:I'm like,.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker C:But if we don't talk every, Every day, like, like, now we maybe talk, like, actually physically talk to each other.
Speaker C:Couple weeks now.
Speaker C:And now when we talk, man, she got so much to tell me, and she.
Speaker C:And she can just keep her momentum going.
Speaker C:Like, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Speaker C:And I'm.
Speaker C:And I'm here with it because I'm just like, what?
Speaker C:No, she did what I told her.
Speaker C:And I'm not faking the engagement.
Speaker C:I'm actively engaged because I'm like, yo, I really don't know what's been going on with you the last couple weeks, but if we was doing this every day, it'd be like, yeah, like, cool.
Speaker C:He told me that.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, we already talked.
Speaker C:We've been here.
Speaker C:I am not part of the new generation when it comes to, like, text communication of constant communication.
Speaker C:I'm consistently inconsistent because, like I said, I can text with the best of them.
Speaker C:Like, I, I, I can thumb thug it out.
Speaker C:I can, I can be right here with it.
Speaker C:But if I'm doing that with you, I promise you we ain't about to see each other no time soon because that's the only reason I'd be doing all this thumbing.
Speaker C:So, yeah, man, that's what's on my mind, man.
Speaker C:Like, we gotta go back to the days where, like, man, community communication.
Speaker C:Matt, communication is important when you got something to talk about.
Speaker C:If you just saw the person 15 minutes ago, nothing new has happened.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker C:Absence makes the heart.
Speaker C:No, that absence is required for me to make Miss you if I can't if I'm not without you I can't miss you.
Speaker C:Like, I look at my daughter, my oldest daughter, she is.
Speaker C:She's in the text, and she's constantly on the phone.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, you're in a great phase of life right now.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're in the.
Speaker C:Hey, I like somebody, and I want to talk to them all the time.
Speaker C:And I promise you, eventually that gonna get old, man.
Speaker C:And you're gonna have to just be like, yo, man, we need to have something to talk about.
Speaker C:And I gotta space this out a little bit, man.
Speaker C:But then again, maybe she'll never get there.
Speaker C:Maybe she'll never get there because she likes talking.
Speaker C:Maybe she'll be like my friend Janelle.
Speaker C:Like, they're.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:Now I think about it, their personality traits are so similar.
Speaker C:And maybe she'll never outgrow.
Speaker C:Maybe she'll constantly just play.
Speaker C:Hey, I wanna.
Speaker C:And I'm not saying that to demean the communication.
Speaker B:Are you sure?
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm simply saying they communicate with far more words than I require.
Speaker A:I mean, they kind of sound like little dogs, man.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:No, because, like, even.
Speaker C:See, it's balance, man.
Speaker C:Like, I think if you're going to be somebody that talks that much, you got to get with somebody that's cool with not talking, because you got to have the space to get your shit out there.
Speaker C:Like, that's why me and Janelle's friendship works, because she's even joked.
Speaker C:She was like, I feel like I've been talking to you the whole time.
Speaker C:And I'm like, because you have, and it's okay.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker A:That's where we're at.
Speaker C:That's our dynamic.
Speaker C:I listen, I chime in.
Speaker C:I might ask a question in that question.
Speaker C:Sometimes it's because I want knowledge, or sometimes I'm asking a question because I know you really want to talk more.
Speaker C:So let me ask you a question so you can clarify something you've already explained three times.
Speaker C:Because I know you need to get it out.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:Oh, look, man, y'.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker C:You laughing at that one.
Speaker B:This makes perfect Savage, man.
Speaker B:Cause, like, sometimes when you talk, I feel so sorry for your wife.
Speaker B:Like, what in the world?
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Yip, yip.
Speaker A:Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker C:I'm an official communicator.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:An efficient communicator.
Speaker B:Is it efficient or you just don't want to talk?
Speaker A:There's a difference.
Speaker C:But you're right.
Speaker C:There is.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And that.
Speaker C:I'm glad you said that.
Speaker C:It's not that I don't want to talk, because I think I'm cool with the communication sometimes.
Speaker C:I don't necessarily have to add a lot to the communication, but I'm an active listener.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm an active listener, man.
Speaker B:You realize when people don't get words to come out of your mouth, they feel like you're not really in the.
Speaker C:Conversation, which is why I say I'm an active listener.
Speaker C:I've learned that.
Speaker C:I've learned that.
Speaker C:I have to ask a question here.
Speaker C:I got to say something.
Speaker C:I got to make a comment to let them know that I'm actively listening, because I actually am.
Speaker C:I'm not one of those people that, like, really don't listen.
Speaker C:Like, and she's tested me before.
Speaker C:She used to, like, what did I just say?
Speaker C:You know?
Speaker C:Come on, don't do that.
Speaker C:Because if I'm actively listening, I definitely know what you just said, and I can repeat it.
Speaker B:I mean, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker C:It happens sometimes when she's talking, I'm like, yo, that's amazing.
Speaker C:And she's like, what?
Speaker C:And I'm like, yo, you've been talking this whole time, and I ain't hear nothing you said.
Speaker C:But I'm honest about that.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:When that's happened, I'm honest about that.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker C:Y' all never.
Speaker C:Y' all have never been in a conversation where somebody was talking, and some.
Speaker C:For some reason, you just.
Speaker C:It just cut off.
Speaker C:Like, they just went in the mute in your head.
Speaker C:That's happened to me.
Speaker C:Like, some.
Speaker C:Sometimes.
Speaker C:I promise you, sometimes it's on purpose.
Speaker A:Sometimes.
Speaker C:Sometimes it is an involuntary reaction.
Speaker C:And I don't even.
Speaker C:I didn't want to do.
Speaker C:It just.
Speaker C:Just happened.
Speaker A:I mean, for me, when.
Speaker A:When certain people that I know speak, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's kind of over.
Speaker A:Like, I don't want to listen to you already, so I'm already doing something else.
Speaker A:Mentally, I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's the difference, though, like, because I don't engage in conversation with people that I feel that way about.
Speaker C:I just really won't talk to them.
Speaker C:I won't even try to listen to them.
Speaker C:I'll just exit sometimes.
Speaker C:No, man, I disagree.
Speaker B:You're an adult.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, man, if you're on a group call and there's somebody who.
Speaker A:Who you just can't stand to hear the voice, and you.
Speaker A:They talk, and you don't got choices, man.
Speaker A:You guys can sit there and take it, but that don't mean I get the answer.
Speaker A:That just means that because my shit's on mute.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm watching ESPN or doing something else, you know, and hopefully I can hear when they, you know, when, when their oxygen stops working.
Speaker A:I realize, I go back, I, I.
Speaker C:Get you on, I get you on the group call dynamic or something.
Speaker C:Maybe somebody talks and you don't really want to hear them.
Speaker C:But that's not really being in, that's not really in a communication, like a conversation with them.
Speaker C:That's literally.
Speaker C:Like you said, that's a group call or like a conference call, something.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's different.
Speaker C:I'm talking about, like, actually being in communication with somebody.
Speaker C:Now if I don't want to talk to you, I will not.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, there's some people Hard stop.
Speaker A:You know, their name is not attached to their phone number for a reason.
Speaker C:Because, like, I've literally had people in my phone where their, their caller ID is.
Speaker C:No,.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:Sometimes it be that way, man.
Speaker C:They call me, I look at it.
Speaker C:Nope.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker A:Sometimes it be that way, man.
Speaker B:Man, you're not wrong.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:This is hilarious.
Speaker C:But that's it, man.
Speaker C:I, I, I just feel like cell phones have ruined communication, man, because we have, we've done what we do with everything, man.
Speaker C:We just, we got, we have too much of it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:We had too much processed food, too much sugar, too much communication.
Speaker C:Like, it's just too much.
Speaker C:Let's go back to moderation, man.
Speaker C:Moderation.
Speaker C:Moderation is the key.
Speaker C:Like, I know they're like, hey, you know what the, the key to every healthy relationship?
Speaker C:Communication.
Speaker C:And I'm like, no, it's knowing when and how much to communicate.
Speaker C:It ain't just constant communication because too much communication is never a good thing.
Speaker C:Never.
Speaker C:It always is going to end up bad to me.
Speaker A:Sometimes people just gotta shut the up.
Speaker C:Because too much communication turns into.
Speaker C:You need to shut the the hell up.
Speaker A:Exactly what I just say.
Speaker A:Like, that's what it is.
Speaker C:Like, everything you say might be important to you.
Speaker C:Hard stop.
Speaker C:Might be important to you.
Speaker C:You don't even need me for this.
Speaker C:Like, you, I could leave and you could just talk, man, and I could just come back when you finish.
Speaker A:Moby, wait till you turn 50, bro.
Speaker A:When you turn 50.
Speaker A:50.
Speaker A:You thought you didn't give a.
Speaker A:Now the, the guard rails come off, man.
Speaker A:My, when I turned 50, my give a went to a new level.
Speaker C:But, but I don't know if I've ever really given a about, like the, the overabundance of communication.
Speaker C:I just don't like, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like, like, right now, you at a certain level and like, yeah, you're.
Speaker A:You are nice about not getting.
Speaker A:Giving a, but you still don't give a.
Speaker A:When you turn 50, that nice gets thrown out and you just don't give a.
Speaker C:You might be right.
Speaker C:But, like, I don't know if I've ever really been nice about communication because, like, this one brought up that way.
Speaker C:Like, my mom.
Speaker C:My mom didn't constantly communicate with me.
Speaker C:Like, I knew if my mom was talking, she was either mad at me or mad at something or she wasn't talking.
Speaker C:There was.
Speaker C:There wasn't going to be like this.
Speaker C:Like, we didn't do the small talk.
Speaker C:The what you doing?
Speaker C:The how was your day?
Speaker C:It's like, nah, man, we.
Speaker C:We kept communication on this.
Speaker A:I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Speaker C:Like, yo, I.
Speaker C:And this, this is not a knot.
Speaker C:But like, I never remember my mom asking me, how was school?
Speaker C:I never remember her asking me, like, do you have homework?
Speaker C:Like, my mom never asked me about any of that stuff.
Speaker C:My mom was.
Speaker C:My mom had like, a whole bunch of, like, principal Hardline rules.
Speaker C:If your grades are bad, you need to tell me now so we can fix it, because I'm gonna find out eventually, and you don't want me to find out that way.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's all I need to know.
Speaker C:So I never had to talk about school.
Speaker C:She would never ask me about homework.
Speaker C:She would just be like, look, I'm not going to ask you if you have homework because if you ain't doing it, I'mma find out there.
Speaker C:So we just didn't.
Speaker C:We didn't have that wasted communication.
Speaker C:It was never, how was your day?
Speaker A:For what?
Speaker C:You see me, if I had a.
Speaker C:If I had a great day, I'll tell you.
Speaker C:If I had a bad day, I'll tell you.
Speaker C:If the day was just like every other day, what are we talking about?
Speaker A:Fair.
Speaker B:At least I have insight now.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker C:But yeah, man, I'm good.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Two things for me.
Speaker A:One, yo, man, I love popcorn.
Speaker A:I truly do.
Speaker A:The Colonel.
Speaker A:Getting in between the teeth, though, that's just.
Speaker A:I'm done.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And I'm not talking about just getting in between the teeth, but getting under the teeth, in the gum.
Speaker A:And, man, nah, man.
Speaker A:All this technology and we can't come up with popcorn where kernels don't get stuck in your teeth kind of.
Speaker A:Is this like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:I mean, we got Nuclear weapons and we can go to the moon.
Speaker A:But we can't make popcorn where the kernels don't get stuck between your teeth.
Speaker C:Different food then.
Speaker C:If it didn't have kernels.
Speaker A:No, no, I'm just saying when it pops, the kernels disappear some.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker A:Or it dissolves like kernels be lasting longer than roaches.
Speaker C:Then wouldn't that be something else if it just turned into some dissolving stuff,.
Speaker A:Man, I don't care.
Speaker A:But we can do all this other cool.
Speaker A:But we can't fix the kernels in that get stuck in between your teeth or your gums, man.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:You know what, Reuben?
Speaker C:That's actually fair, cuz I was just about to say, yo, that's changing it.
Speaker C:But I'm like, yo, we make seedless watermelon.
Speaker C:You want.
Speaker C:You want seedless popcorn, bro?
Speaker C:We can't handle seedless popcorn.
Speaker A:You got me?
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the other thing, man, you know, back in the day when I was doing Young United anymore.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:Back in the day when you were young.
Speaker C:You're not a kid anymore.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:When I was doing before they call it podcasting, it was Internet radio and I had a thing that I would about talk.
Speaker A:Talk about.
Speaker A:It'll be about, you know, natural selection.
Speaker A:And because I'm a true believer of natural selection, like there are some people who will be put on this planet to die.
Speaker A:And it's just what it is.
Speaker A:Not like us.
Speaker A:But I mean, like, why are you here?
Speaker A:Oh, you're here to do all the stupid.
Speaker A:So I don't do that.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:And so I thought about this weekend in college football.
Speaker A:And it comes down to.
Speaker A:I don't understand.
Speaker A:Hear me out.
Speaker A:So in Oklahoma State, they beat number six, Oregon or whatever rank they were.
Speaker A:I get it, man.
Speaker A:You beat a top 10 program for the first time or whatever.
Speaker A:They say your team sucked out ass and you beat somebody really good.
Speaker A:You might win three more games this year.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:I mean, celebrate taking down your goal post and taking it to a creek or a river and just tossing it in there.
Speaker A:That don't make sense to me.
Speaker A:That's just like in West Virginia when West Virginia would win, they would burn their cow couches and throw them outside the balcony.
Speaker A:Look, man,.
Speaker C:A real thing.
Speaker A:Yes, that's real.
Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker A:It sounds stupid as, but it's real.
Speaker A:I get upset when, man, when somebody with your.
Speaker A:And you want to go that up.
Speaker A:Completely understand.
Speaker A:But as Moby says to me, Reuben, you know you're kind of a fanatic.
Speaker A:You're the fan and the fanatic.
Speaker A:And I say, I guess I am.
Speaker A:But you know what I'm not.
Speaker A:These.
Speaker A:Why do you win and you destroy your own?
Speaker A:That's just like my team.
Speaker A:My team win a Super bowl and I throw something and destroy my tv.
Speaker A:What kind of dumbass you is that?
Speaker C:I mean, the Knicks, the New York tried to burn that down when the next one.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:It won't because they didn't try to do some because somebody got up or no Rodney King situation.
Speaker A:Nah, the next one for the first time in 53 years and you want to burn the whole goddamn city down.
Speaker A:How does that help you?
Speaker A:It doesn't like you're going to destroy your place of.
Speaker A:Of peace because your team won a game or what a semblance of games.
Speaker A:Miss me with celebration.
Speaker C:Yeah, enjoy yourself.
Speaker A:Miss me with that.
Speaker A:All I'm saying, like, yeah, yo, be happy, man.
Speaker A:You know all that like another thing.
Speaker A:Oh my God, somebody left my team.
Speaker A:I'm gonna burn my 200 jersey.
Speaker A:What kind of dumbass is that?
Speaker A:I'm not gonna burn a jersey because somebody got traded or they left.
Speaker A:I paid $200 for this and you can't get two to rub together to make a dime.
Speaker A:What the we doing?
Speaker A:Like, those are just special people, man.
Speaker A:Those are special people in this world world.
Speaker A:And like I get it.
Speaker A:Like they're here on this planet for a reason.
Speaker A:And that reason is to do all the dumb.
Speaker A:So I ain't got to do it.
Speaker A:And I appreciate you, but like, come on, man.
Speaker A:Like this, this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like for instance, two weeks ago I ran something.
Speaker A:I saw something, something on.
Speaker A:On Tick tock.
Speaker A:Somebody put from Norfolk State.
Speaker A:Hey, if we beat ODU and football, we gonna take down that girl post and do some with it.
Speaker A:I mean, they got beat by like 50 points.
Speaker A:I guess you ain't move like go home.
Speaker A:But it's like I don't understand the whole destroying like a 50,000 piece of equipment.
Speaker A:Equipment just so they can move up your suit.
Speaker A:Your student just.
Speaker A:They gonna charge that to y' all dumb.
Speaker A:Like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:Like, hey, I'm Michigan.
Speaker A:We won because of a Hail Mary on Western Michigan.
Speaker A:You know what we're gonna do?
Speaker A:We're gonna storm the field.
Speaker A:Act like you've been here before.
Speaker A:Like, I'm sorry you beat Western Michigan.
Speaker A:Go ahead, win that champion.
Speaker A:Oh, that won the championship.
Speaker A:That was a game against the sub level team that you should have beat by 50 any damn way.
Speaker A:Get a grip people.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:Just get a grip.
Speaker A:Stop destroying your own when your team wins, just don't do it now.
Speaker A:If your team loses and you want to destroy your that's a judgment, judgment call.
Speaker A:That's still dumb as but it's still a judgment call.
Speaker A:Like you do you boo.
Speaker A:Like I promise you I'm not washing could go oh and 16 and I'm not burning this jersey.
Speaker A:That's for damn sure.
Speaker A:Cost you goddamn much them.
Speaker A:That's why I got a personalized with my name on the back of it.
Speaker A:So like if anybody ever leaves, you know who's not leaving?
Speaker A:Number 25 Brown.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker A:Like I ain't never leaving.
Speaker A:Get a grip people.
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