Episode 336
Episode 336: Marvel Movies: A Critical Examination of Storytelling
The primary focus of this podcast episode revolves around the complexities of contemporary political and social dynamics, as articulated through the discourse on various pressing topics, including the implications of patriotism as symbolized by the American flag. As the discussion unfolds, we explore the nuanced perspectives regarding the flag's representation, contrasting its historical significance with the evolving sentiments surrounding it, particularly among marginalized communities. Through our reflections, we delve into the intersection of identity, allegiance, and the broader implications of national symbols in the context of personal and collective experiences. Additionally, we touch upon the political landscape, particularly the surprising outcomes of recent electoral events in Michigan, thereby shedding light on the unpredictable nature of political affiliations and voter sentiments. Ultimately, this dialogue serves as a lens through which we can examine the intricate interplay between individual identities and the societal frameworks within which they exist.
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Speaker B:This week, on the five minute Warning,.
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Speaker A:We were off last week and now we are back.
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Speaker C:Good.
Speaker B:I'm married to a smokehouse and spider man.
Speaker B:Was good.
Speaker B:That was impressive.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:So we saw Spider Man.
Speaker B:We did.
Speaker B:Went to the movies.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker A:Shut the front door.
Speaker B:Yeah, hadn't been to.
Speaker B:I think we've been to three movies in five years.
Speaker A:Oh, what were the other two?
Speaker A:Hopefully one of them was not the Notebook.
Speaker B:I mean, that was a long time ago and I might have saw that.
Speaker A:Did I see that in the movie?
Speaker B:No, I think I saw that after the fact on tv.
Speaker A:They'd be re releasing, man.
Speaker A:They ain't fooling nobod.
Speaker B:It was probably another like Marvel endgame.
Speaker B:We saw most of the Marvel movies over time, so.
Speaker A:Oh, cool, cool.
Speaker A:Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker A:What about you, Moby?
Speaker A:How you been, man?
Speaker A:Two weeks.
Speaker A:Been a long time, brother.
Speaker C:Yeah, man.
Speaker C:I mean, I don't know if two weeks feels like that long to me.
Speaker B:We gotta understand who we're talking to, sir.
Speaker C:I know, I know, but your urgency is like, man, you would think we had been like we took a season off or something.
Speaker B:Like, for him it is.
Speaker C:I, I will.
Speaker C:I will say Spider man was good.
Speaker C:We all went and saw Spider man as well.
Speaker C:Good movie.
Speaker C:I was pleased with it.
Speaker A:Good, good.
Speaker A:Maybe I should go see it then.
Speaker A:Everybody else is gonna see it but me.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:I did make a billion dollars almost the first weekend for sure.
Speaker A:Yep, yep.
Speaker A:It made over.
Speaker A:It already has made over a billion dollars.
Speaker A:And at this point in time, I'm not one of those part of that billion.
Speaker A:I guess we have to figure out some time this week to become up.
Speaker A:Become part of that second billion that that shit's gonna make.
Speaker A:Cause it's gonna.
Speaker A:And hopefully, or I might get lucky.
Speaker A:It's like, you know what?
Speaker A:We made enough money.
Speaker A:Let's go ahead, put that shit on Disney plus in September.
Speaker A:Nah, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker A:They ain't happening.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Ain't gonna be on Disney plus for a minute.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm gonna be honest, man, I've heard nothing but good things about it.
Speaker A:But I'm really excited for the animated spider verse coming out next year, man.
Speaker A:I'm super exc.
Speaker A:Like,.
Speaker C:Yeah, I wish it wasn't such a big gap between those movies, but.
Speaker C:Yeah, those by far my favorite Spider man movies.
Speaker B:But aren't they worth it, though?
Speaker B:The Miles Morales stuff is kind of dope.
Speaker A:Four years, man.
Speaker A:Four.
Speaker B:I mean, I hear what I'm saying, but every time I watch it, see, I'm away.
Speaker C:They're great.
Speaker C:Like I said, they're my.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're great.
Speaker C:That's why, you know, the, the space in between makes it even more frustrating because I'm like, it's not even close.
Speaker C:Those are the best Spider man movies ever made.
Speaker C:I don't care what anybody like people.
Speaker C:Oh, some live act.
Speaker C:Nope, nope.
Speaker C:They are the best Spider man movies are those two animated Miles Morales movies.
Speaker A:Oh by far, by far.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:But we have already discovered that Sony can't make good, very good Spider man live action movies unless Marvel's involved because Lord knows like Morbius might have been the biggest piece of ever created.
Speaker A:But then they came out with Madame Web.
Speaker A:So like hey, let's break our own shitty record and come out with that.
Speaker C:You said they can't make a good Spider man movie.
Speaker C:And then you name movies that aren't Spider man movies.
Speaker A:But they're Spider Man Mythos Man.
Speaker C:I get that.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:It's in the same.
Speaker C:It's the same realm.
Speaker C:But I mean like the worst things that they've done have been the non Spider man movies.
Speaker C:Like even the Sony Spider man movies weren't like that.
Speaker C:They weren't that.
Speaker C:Like, even if they weren't my favorite, even if I don't really like some of the Spider man live action ones, they weren't that.
Speaker A:I. I think that.
Speaker A:I think it's fair to say.
Speaker A:Hear me out.
Speaker A:The worst one is by far amazing.
Speaker A:Spider Man 2 with electro.
Speaker A:That terrible.
Speaker B:Say that again.
Speaker B:Say that sentence again.
Speaker A:The worst one of all of them was a mating Spider Man 2 with electro and whoever else was it.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker C:I disagree.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:I think the Tobey Maguire's third Spider man was awful.
Speaker A:I hate that movie, man.
Speaker A:You know you're not wr.
Speaker C:That movie almost killed Spider man for me.
Speaker C:But I was like, hey man, this is awful.
Speaker A:You know man, that's a solid.
Speaker A:Again.
Speaker C:It wasn't what those other movies you named that Sony does.
Speaker C:Like I will watch that any day over any of the other Spider man mythos movies.
Speaker A:Cause man Morbius put me to sleep multiple times.
Speaker A:Which means it just didn't kept my interest.
Speaker A:And I watched Madame Web.
Speaker B:I heard Madame Web was bad from jump street.
Speaker B:Have heard not a word.
Speaker B:I have not heard one good word or review about.
Speaker A:I'm glad she got her money kg.
Speaker C:It took me so many times to finish it.
Speaker B:That's a bad.
Speaker C:It took me so cuz like not only did I lose interest in it right away.
Speaker C:Like I was just like.
Speaker C:I'm mentally complaining about the movie as it's old.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:And I'm just like.
Speaker C:It got to the point where I'd be like Frustrated, but no, I'm not doing this.
Speaker C:But then, because I'm also one of those people, I gotta know where this goes.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:That eventually I would come back to it.
Speaker C:But, like, I like that.
Speaker C:I don't know if I've worked that hard to finish any Marvel esque movie in my life.
Speaker A:That is by far the worst Marvel movie ever created.
Speaker C:Even the Morbius movie, I thought the Morris movie was really slow.
Speaker C:And they didn't.
Speaker C:It took them too long to get where they were trying to go.
Speaker C:But I didn't think the story was awful.
Speaker C:I just think it took him too long to get there.
Speaker C:It was like, hey, man, we.
Speaker C:We don't need.
Speaker C:Like, I get it.
Speaker C:Y' all trying to make some filler time to make this movie.
Speaker C:An hour, 30 minutes.
Speaker C:But the story could have probably been done in about 40 minutes.
Speaker A:Like, well, well, let me ask y'.
Speaker B:All a question, because usually when we talk about this, I feel like either I'm lost or I'm just a Marvel Universe whore.
Speaker B:I'll explain.
Speaker B:Because all of the movies y' all say are bad kind like them.
Speaker B:And I wonder if having a comic book background or having, you know, a graphic novel background helps you understand how bad a movie can be.
Speaker B:It's almost like, if you, like, my wife reads the book before we see the film, and then she's disappointed by the film seven times out of ten, other than Harry Potter usually, you know.
Speaker B:So that's why I'm asking.
Speaker B:Is it.
Speaker B:If I.
Speaker B:If I.
Speaker B:If I had more comic book slash, graphic novel, you know, background, would I feel.
Speaker A:Because y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker B:Y' all speak in a lot of nuance where I'm just sitting there going, oh, that was cool.
Speaker B:I feel so stupid and limited because it's like, I thought all the movies, y', all, most of the time when y' all say y' all don't like something, I'm sitting there going, I kind of like that.
Speaker C:Honestly.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're not wrong on that.
Speaker C:Because I know I would enjoy some of the movies more with less knowledge.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker C:But the thing is, I'm also not one of those sticklers that's like, it's gotta be like, in the comic books.
Speaker C:I don't care about that.
Speaker C:I'm more about congruence with stories.
Speaker C:Like, yo, make the story make sense.
Speaker C:Get to where you're actually trying to go, okay?
Speaker C:And actually make it fit.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Because, like, Marvel does a lot of things where they go away from what the comic book is.
Speaker C:And I'm okay with it sometime.
Speaker C:And like, even the third Spider man told me, why Mov.
Speaker C:Like, when I say I hate that movie, I kind of mean I hate it in a.
Speaker C:In a vacuum.
Speaker C:Like, I hate it compared to the first two because I thought the first two were solid.
Speaker C:And then it was like they didn't know where to go, but they needed to get that money, so they had to make another one.
Speaker C:Okay?
Speaker B:And I would have never said that because I just look at the movie for what they're showing me.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:My level of innocence is on 11.
Speaker B:So I'm just looking at the movie like, oh, it was either good or bad, but I don't have any.
Speaker B:You know, I don't even have enough knowledge to judge it in a vacuum like you just said.
Speaker C:Cuz, like, you know, like Reuben's.
Speaker C:Like, Morty was boring and dry.
Speaker C:See, Morbius was a story that I'm not.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:Comic book knowledge of Morbius, very minimal.
Speaker C:Like, I just.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:He wasn't one of my favorite Spider man villains.
Speaker C:It just wasn't what it was for me.
Speaker C:So going into that movie, I didn't have any, like, preconceived, like, expectations, okay.
Speaker C:Of what I wanted it to be like.
Speaker C:And like I said, that's why I don't think the movie was awful.
Speaker C:It was just like, yo.
Speaker C:It just took me a long.
Speaker C:It just took a long time for something to happen.
Speaker C:And I get it.
Speaker C:It's like the American attention span thing.
Speaker C:It's like we just can't do it.
Speaker C:But I'm.
Speaker C:I don't think I am one of those people that's like, need something exploding and stuff.
Speaker C:I just felt like the story wasn't moving at the beginning.
Speaker C:It was just like they were trying to build on the character, but it wasn't moving.
Speaker C:And it's like, yo, I'm good with a slow build, but we gotta be built.
Speaker C:We can't.
Speaker C:We can't just be stagnant building.
Speaker B:Understood.
Speaker A:So as far as Spider Man 3, okay.
Speaker A:And Amazing Spider Man 2, to me, they fit in the same issue for me.
Speaker A:They just put way too much shit in it.
Speaker A:Like the first two Spider man movies and Amazing Spider Man 1, central story.
Speaker A:This is what it's about.
Speaker A:This is what's gonna happen.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker A:I'm good with that.
Speaker A:Maybe that's just my.
Speaker A:My pea brain.
Speaker A:And I need to only focus on one thing at one or maybe two things at one time.
Speaker A:Like, I'm good with that.
Speaker A:Spider Man 3 had him getting the black suit Then the other dude becoming Venom.
Speaker A:Then the Sandman, who was in there for absolutely no reason.
Speaker C:He wasn't.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't think it was for no reason.
Speaker B:I mean, he needed.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think.
Speaker C:I think Ruben's being exaggerated about that.
Speaker C:Like, he.
Speaker C:He was in there for reason.
Speaker A:He was in there for a reason, but it wasn't really part of the story.
Speaker C:They were trying to squeeze 2m stories, one movie.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I hear that the first.
Speaker B:The first two for Grace is the bad guy, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it took him forever.
Speaker C:That story.
Speaker C:That story by itself should have been vetted out long enough without having to throw the Venom suit in there.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:And honestly, even through the Venom suit, dude, why do we need Sandman once again?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just too much.
Speaker A:It's like, well, this is Toby's last movie, so let's throw a whole bunch of in here and see what stick.
Speaker A:And none of it stuck.
Speaker A:It was just a whole bunch of happening.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then the same thing with amazing Spider Man 2.
Speaker A:I just thought the Electro character was his home or.
Speaker B:It wasn't that a real character like in the comic books, though?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was just written horribly.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I know what they tried to do.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:It didn't.
Speaker A:It didn't mesh.
Speaker C:Especially his character coming back in.
Speaker C:In the next fight.
Speaker C:Like, they kind of tried to redeem that character.
Speaker A:I was very fine with it.
Speaker C:I did a really good job of redeeming that.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Let's be real.
Speaker A:That move was bad.
Speaker A:That movie was bad.
Speaker B:Which one?
Speaker A:And it's amazing Spider Man 2.
Speaker A:It just wasn't good.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:And I. I don't hate it as much as Rupert does.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker C:I do think the character was not.
Speaker C:It was just not very good storytelling.
Speaker C:But I think.
Speaker C:I think he played the character the way the story was supposed to be made.
Speaker C:But it was a good story.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And, you know, like, I think it was one of those things was like, you can put a good actor in a really good role, and he could play the role well.
Speaker C:Story's not good.
Speaker C:So,.
Speaker A:As you've heard, I've not blamed Jamie Foxx for that role.
Speaker A:I don't blame him for that.
Speaker A:I just blame the shitty storytelling because that shit was terrible, in my opinion.
Speaker B:And this is the part where I get lost, because again, I. I'm looking at it like it was an entertaining movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, and again, like I said, don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:It's not like I'm into The Marvel Universe in passing.
Speaker B:I've seen all the films.
Speaker B:I. I grew up with these characters, you know.
Speaker B:You know, I've seen them in comic books.
Speaker B:I never read them.
Speaker B:And then when they started making live action, I went through that whole phase to get us to this moment.
Speaker B:But it's just like, I still look at him like, oh, that was cool.
Speaker B:And I think I'm showing my age.
Speaker C:That's why I said I don't hate that movie as much as Reuben does.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:When I say I hate the third Spider Man, Toby Wire one.
Speaker C:Once again, I try to explain.
Speaker C:It's a vacuum.
Speaker C:I think they.
Speaker C:They got real loose with the story.
Speaker C:Because I think the best superhero movies, which is the reason DC movies don't do anything for me, because the DC movies focus so on the fact that these people are superpowered people.
Speaker C:Where the best Marvel stories have been the grounded ones, where it's like, yo, it's about this person that happens to have power.
Speaker B:Okay, I see that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:I do understand that part.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And this is why Guardians of the Galaxy was such a shock.
Speaker A:Because they wrote that first movie so well that most of these people didn't know who the fuck they were.
Speaker A:I knew who they were because I'm a comic book guy.
Speaker A:But most people, when saw it, just saw it because it's a Marvel movie.
Speaker A:Maybe we'll get a stone or something.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker C:Formula.
Speaker C:Because honestly, yeah, they cannot win with the big characters because the comic book nerds, Reuben, in the comic book, like, passionate people.
Speaker C:Me, like, have a preconceived notion of what they want the character to kind of be.
Speaker C:So it's so much easier for them, in my opinion.
Speaker C:It's so much easier for them when they use lesser known characters because now people are being introduced to them however they want to introduce them to.
Speaker C:Like, the great thing about Iron man was, like, we think of Iron man as, like, a huge character now, but when they made the original Iron man, he was like a C character.
Speaker C:Like, he was.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, not to me, but it's exactly ag.
Speaker C:Because, like, to the comic book people, Iron man had a couple relevant, like, realms, like, of comics.
Speaker A:Yeah, he won't.
Speaker C:He won a big character, which is why nobody owned it.
Speaker C:Like, the big characters, your Captain America, your Hulk, your Spider Man.
Speaker C:That's why all these other companies own them, because those are the.
Speaker C:The super popular Marvel characters.
Speaker C:Iron man was like, ah, nobody really wants them.
Speaker C:So shoot.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker C:Let's figure it out.
Speaker A:Once again.
Speaker C:You don't think that now Because MCU introduced him an entirely different way.
Speaker C:I'll give you another one.
Speaker C:One of the best things that Marvel did was Blade.
Speaker C:Blade wasn't even a super popular comic book for real.
Speaker A:But when they made the.
Speaker B:Was he always black though?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Well, I figured that's why it wasn't, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, he wasn't even a super popular character.
Speaker C:Wesley Snipes movie comes out and then the comic books actually got more popular because of the movie.
Speaker C:But once again, everybody was being introduced to a lesser known character.
Speaker C:So nobody came in with like this allegiance or how they envisioned this character should be.
Speaker C:I think of it like me and Reuben watch Jack Reacher and they reach.
Speaker B:You with Tom Cruise.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:Tom Cruise.
Speaker C:When I hate.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker C:Because I've read the books and I'm just like, this 5 foot 2 dude is not rich.
Speaker B:He went from 57 to 52 relative to who Jack Reacher actually was, which y' all taught me.
Speaker B:I didn't realize this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it kind of is 5:2 because the dude was Alan Richard, man.
Speaker B:He was somewhere in between.
Speaker C:He's somewhere in between the two versions.
Speaker B:Oh, I thought he was actually like 65 and 250.
Speaker B:I thought that that's what he's like my height.
Speaker C:No, Jack Reacher.
Speaker B:Tom Cruise is like my height.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I'm saying Jack Reacher in the book is not.
Speaker C:He's not the dude that we see in the prom series who's like clearly mammoth dude.
Speaker C:He's really a normal, like a pretty Norma looking guy, but he's not tiny.
Speaker C:And I'm not saying Tom Cruise is tiny, but for like this story says he is tiny for the character because Jack Reaches probably.
Speaker C: described him, but he's like: Speaker C:That ain't Tom Cruise.
Speaker B:And it sure.
Speaker B:Dallas Richard either.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I didn't realize that because I thought that the, the Reacher character was actually more like my man doing it on prime right now.
Speaker B:That's what I thought I was like.
Speaker A:And I never read the books.
Speaker A:So like, to me, that goes back.
Speaker B:To what I was saying.
Speaker B:It's just like when you have that background, it's just like, how do you even watch stuff sometimes?
Speaker A:But, but I'll give them, I'll give them credit because each series, well, each season is a book apparently.
Speaker A:And apparently they got a ton of Reacher books.
Speaker A:Jack Reacher books.
Speaker C:Like I've read like two or three, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, and, and I haven't read any of them based on any of the series.
Speaker C:So, like, I get to watch the series and know nothing because I' this is.
Speaker C:I don't know what this is supposed to be drawn from.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And to me, that's just a good.
Speaker A:The way they do Reacher is just.
Speaker A:It's great all around.
Speaker A:You know, it's good storytelling.
Speaker A:They got good people in their acting, which is honestly kind of even better because that means they're putting their heart and soul into it.
Speaker A:And it's just like, yo, I'm trying to hopefully use this to catapult myself.
Speaker A:Hell yeah.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker C:I stand corrected.
Speaker C:I apologize.
Speaker C:I was thinking of another character because there's so many books that are very similar to Jack Reacher.
Speaker C:Actually, Jack Reacher, according to.
Speaker C:I just googled it.
Speaker C:And the actual book series, he's 6 foot 5, 250 pounds.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker A:That's Alreicher.
Speaker C:How did we get to Tom Cruise?
Speaker B:Because he probably was like, I want to be a hero again.
Speaker C:Once again, I think it was just like, hey, man, it's a popular book series.
Speaker C:We want to get a popular action actor.
Speaker C:Which, you know, at the time he's got Mission Impossible.
Speaker C:He's a popular action.
Speaker C:But it's like, yo, I.
Speaker C:Because I've read books, and I was like, hey, man, this.
Speaker C:When I see Tom Cruise, I'm like, this ain't this character.
Speaker C:And once again, no matter how good that movie is, because I've heard people say they think the Tom Cruise movie is pretty good.
Speaker B:They are.
Speaker C:And I never could get past it.
Speaker C:I was just like, yo, I don't like it.
Speaker C:But once again, that's kind of like your argument about the Marvel thing.
Speaker C:Like, hey, man.
Speaker C:Because you don't have, like some type of allegiance and passion for some of these things, you get to go and just enjoy.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Like it or don't.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Because I thought the Reacher moves were good.
Speaker B:They were.
Speaker B:They were really good.
Speaker B:Because I'm innocent.
Speaker B:I didn't know the dude was supposed to be 65 and 250.
Speaker B:Like we're watching right now.
Speaker B:I thought that he was.
Speaker B:First of all, I didn't know it was a character that, you know, had a book series behind it.
Speaker B:I had no idea.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And I didn't find that out until people, again, people started complaining about the fact that Tom Cruise is not Jack Reacher.
Speaker B:And I was like, well, why?
Speaker B:Because Jack Reacher's like 6'5,250.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker B:Because now in my mind, I'm like, who's that guy?
Speaker A:When I went Tom Cruise was like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna do this book any goddamn way.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do this movie any goddamn way.
Speaker B:Because when I.
Speaker B:The first season of Reacher, when I looked at it, it took me about half understand that this is what I'm watching now.
Speaker B:Forget what you know.
Speaker B:I was pissed the first, you know, the first three episodes.
Speaker B:Like, why this dude gotta be so big?
Speaker A:Really, bro?
Speaker B:Because like y' all are saying it's.
Speaker A:Like once again,.
Speaker B:Because now I do have background, but it's the wrong background.
Speaker B:But it doesn't matter.
Speaker B:It's my background, it's my experience.
Speaker B:So when I went into the prime thing, I'm thinking it's gonna.
Speaker B:I knew it was gonna not going to be Tom Cruise, but I thought it'd be somebody.
Speaker B:Like, I thought the max would be 510, right?
Speaker B:Not 6, 5 and 2:50.
Speaker B:So it took me a while and some understanding to just really accept what I was watching on prime because I had already seen all the Jack Reacher moves.
Speaker B:Was it two or three?
Speaker B:I had already seen all those and they were really good, you know, so I'm like, it took me a minute, man.
Speaker B:It took me a minute.
Speaker B:So that's why when you know like y' all or my wife or whatever it, for whatever it is, it's like when you have that accurate knowledge going into a film, it can be a good thing, it can be a bad thing, but at least you know, so it's just like for me, man, like I said, man, that Jack Reacher thing, it took me a minute to get used to that big body.
Speaker B:It did.
Speaker C:I mean, you get to praise white Jesus, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:It's like you don't have like the actual Bible description of what Jesus was.
Speaker C:You see blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus, you like, hey, cool, that's, that's him.
Speaker B:I was kind of Florida Heavens right there.
Speaker C:And the people who read it are like, I don't know who that dude is.
Speaker A:I mean, honestly, I knew who the actor was in Reacher and I was a fan of him from Titans because he played Hawk in Titans and he was really good in Titans.
Speaker C:Everybody says he was good.
Speaker C:I, I didn't watch him.
Speaker B:Everybody said either.
Speaker B:But I have heard that, I have heard those very words from a lot of people.
Speaker A:Really good in Titan.
Speaker A:Hell, Titans is a really good.
Speaker B:Isn't that deep?
Speaker B:Dc?
Speaker B:Yeah, dc.
Speaker A:It's dc.
Speaker A:Oh, it's a really good thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean so, like, no, why are you talking to me?
Speaker A:Siri?
Speaker A:So shut the up.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Siri's talking to me.
Speaker A:So, like.
Speaker A:So when I heard it was Alan Richard, I was like, oh, let's go.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Because I knew that at the very least was gonna get kicked in.
Speaker A:Cause that was the type of person he was in Titans.
Speaker A:And he was.
Speaker A:And he got bigger since Titans, like, physically bigger.
Speaker A:So it's like, hell, yeah, let's go.
Speaker B:Cause I saw his audition for American Idol, and he was like.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:Almost didn't recognize him.
Speaker B:He had the height, but he didn't have the size.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I was like, that dude's, like, almost skinny relative to who he is now.
Speaker A:And Titans, he was probably 30 pounds less fighter.
Speaker B:I believe that because he's.
Speaker B:He's enormous now.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, like.
Speaker A:And he was still, like, buffing stuff, but you could tell he was.
Speaker A:He won't.
Speaker B:That right.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, he's somebody else now.
Speaker B:He's somebody else now.
Speaker A:Hell, yeah.
Speaker A:Like, without question.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just thought I'd ask, man.
Speaker B:Because like I said, when y' all get in the conversations, as with stuff, I do have knowledge.
Speaker B:It's like, a lot of times I feel like, you know, somebody who, like, Mikey, he'll eat anything.
Speaker B:Because y' all have opinions, and I don't ha.
Speaker B:I don't have the knowledge to have a really accurate opinion.
Speaker B:I'm just sitting in the movies going, hey, that's cool.
Speaker B:Because when I grew up, it was all comics.
Speaker B:And almost.
Speaker B:In fact, there was all comics and no live action.
Speaker B:The live action looking back at it was awful.
Speaker B:So when I look at it now, that's why I was tripping about Iron Man.
Speaker B:It wasn't that I thought he was weak, but for me, there was a cartoon, and Iron man was a big deal for somebody my age, it was like, oh, snap.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Because, you know, know, they had the cartoon and the comics and all the things or whatever it was.
Speaker B:Color scheme was all great.
Speaker B:So when.
Speaker B: When in: Speaker B:Because I had.
Speaker B:You know, my childhood was full of Iron Man.
Speaker B:Like, for you, apparently, it wasn't that big a deal.
Speaker B:And I'm like, for real.
Speaker C:I grew up on a cartoon.
Speaker C:The Iron man cartoon series was actually dope to me.
Speaker C:But what I was just saying from, like, a.
Speaker C:A comic book reader person.
Speaker C:Iron man was not.
Speaker C:Now, he's always been a part of, like, the big Marvel stories, but the Iron man, individual character and I mean,.
Speaker A:The comic leader of nothing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And also the comic book people are like, man, how you going to do an accurate Iron man depiction if you don't make Tony Stark a drunk?
Speaker B:And oh yeah, substance abuse problems.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's why he got, he got replaced.
Speaker A:He got replaced from roadie replaced him.
Speaker A:Because of that.
Speaker A:In the comic book that is became.
Speaker B:Iron, Wouldn't they write that?
Speaker B:Why wouldn't they put that in the store?
Speaker A:Well, I think because that's a long.
Speaker C:Road and make the family friendly at first because they want the kids and action figures.
Speaker C:So that's not a part of the story you're gonna give him like, and that's why, like, I forgot which one is it Iron Man 2.
Speaker A:It's Iron Man 2.
Speaker A:They touched on it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:When he.
Speaker C:He's kind of getting drunk at the party and everything that the real comic book people like, hey, that's Tony.
Speaker A:You know that.
Speaker C:That's Tony right there.
Speaker C:We told DJ am shirt on.
Speaker A:Yeah, dj.
Speaker A:When he told DJ DJ AM to.
Speaker A:To play a fat beat so I could beat my friend's ass to.
Speaker A:That was funny as when he said that, yo, I was weak.
Speaker C:But that's a lot like, hey, that's kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I'm really glad they didn't delve so deep into that.
Speaker C:Me too.
Speaker A:Because to me that's just too much.
Speaker C:Say, got depressed like some, some of the Iron man stories.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's depressing.
Speaker A:Depressing, man.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, but he didn't really have any major, like debilitating flaws other than arrogance.
Speaker B:That's why I was like, why did they kind of like, that was it.
Speaker A:That was his weakness, his arrogance.
Speaker A:And then in the comic book, when he started drinking, he became even more arrogant.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then, and then he started fucking up in the suit.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:So then.
Speaker A:Yeah, so then they literally had to remove the suit from him, like physically.
Speaker B:Isn't that a better story?
Speaker A:Had to beat his ass and he became Iron Man.
Speaker B: ter story than what we got in: Speaker B:I mean, I hear what you're saying though.
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker C:I kind of think it is a better story, but it's not a more marketable story for what they were trying to go for at the time.
Speaker B:Sure enough.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:And it would have taken too long.
Speaker C:Long.
Speaker A:Cuz then you got to do a building because they kind of built up from it from the first Iron Man.
Speaker A:Cuz literally the first time you see Tony Stark, he's in, in the, the, the Military van, drinking, whatever.
Speaker A:He was drinking.
Speaker B:But it wasn't excessive, though.
Speaker B:He was still in control.
Speaker B:Yeah, that, that.
Speaker B:I felt like that, that fed more into his arrogance.
Speaker A:That's, that's very subjective.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But then it started.
Speaker A:Like the whole, the first, the whole first Iron Man.
Speaker A:Iron man, they really just danced around it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And then the second Iron man, he really got drunk, but that's because he got drunk because he, he was dying.
Speaker A:He couldn't figure out a way to save himself.
Speaker A:So he's like it.
Speaker A:At my birthday party, I'm gonna get drunk and I don't give a.
Speaker A:Because I'm about to die anyway.
Speaker A:And then that's when him.
Speaker A:And that's when roadie went down and got the silver Iron man suit.
Speaker A:And then they started fighting at the park party and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And then he took it and became War Machine and all that crazy.
Speaker A:Now all that, that didn't happen in the comic books, but I appreciate it.
Speaker B:In the movie because they did have a conflict, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:And I appreciate the fact that, that, that's how they used to get roadie into War Machine because that's not how it happened in the comic books.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And so, like, I have.
Speaker A:I like that way better than the whole I'm an alcoholic and all that, because that's just, that just would have taken us to a really bad pathway.
Speaker A:And the redemption, though, really well.
Speaker A:But the redemption came in Iron Man 3, which I thought was brilliant because he suffered from PTSD from the Avengers movie, which they had to deal with, which I, once again, I thought that was brilliant.
Speaker A:The man couldn't sleep at night, so he made 5 million fucking iron man suits.
Speaker A:Each one did something different, which came, you know, with the whole.
Speaker B:And I didn't even catch that, now that I look back at it, I said, okay, that's why he, he, he, he, he didn't sleep so much.
Speaker B:He, he had 24 hours a day at his disposal.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then like the fact that he.
Speaker A:Anxiety because the went into space and he almost died falling to the earth.
Speaker A:You know, he went to a different space dimension and almost died.
Speaker A:So of course he's got anxiety and stuff like that.
Speaker A:But the, the most brilliant part of that movie is when that he was talking to that kid and the kid was like, you're an engineer, go build something.
Speaker A:And then he went to the hardware store at 2:00 in the morning.
Speaker A:I don't know what hardware store is open two o' clock in the fucking morning.
Speaker B:Morning.
Speaker A:But he went to the Hardware store, bought a whole bunch of.
Speaker A:I don't know how he bought a bunch of.
Speaker A:Because you would think all his credit cards and were.
Speaker A:Were shut down.
Speaker A:Like, they never explained any of that.
Speaker A:But he went and made himself an arsenal, went into a secure facility, and started kicking people's asses.
Speaker A:So it's like, okay, bro, whatever.
Speaker A:That smoothie, that's the movie, right?
Speaker A:But, yeah, and once he started building, that helped him get us over his ptsd, which, to me, I thought that was brilliant how they wrote that into that movie.
Speaker A:Because, you know, for some.
Speaker A:Because there are people out here who are suffering from ptsd, and it's just almost like, hey, you know, do something that you're good at.
Speaker A:Hopefully it's not killing.
Speaker A:But, you know, we have.
Speaker C:Me and him have very different interpretations of, like, that's Tony Stark's ptsd, because he didn't get over his PTSD by building suits.
Speaker C:I think the building suits is a symptom of his PTSD is why he started.
Speaker C:Ended up causing all these other problems, because he wanted to become a control freak.
Speaker C:He wanted to control everything.
Speaker C:He, like, he wanted to put a cloak of armor to protect everybody because he felt so out of control from the Avengers incident that he couldn't save everybody.
Speaker C:So I don't think him building the suits of ptsd, I think it was a symptom of it, which ended up causing more problems later on.
Speaker C:The building of Ultron, all that stuff is literally a symptom.
Speaker A:And so here's the funny thing about that.
Speaker A:You're 100% right on that.
Speaker A:However, in the way it's supposed to work.
Speaker A:Age of Ultron came after Iron Man 3.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, it makes sense what you're saying.
Speaker A:And if they had done it the reverse way, it would make even more sense.
Speaker A:But they did.
Speaker C:No, but still, even.
Speaker C:Even with the timeline, like, after the Avengers thing, he just became uberly obsessed with what can I do to make sure?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, I never got in control.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I get you.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so I don't think it.
Speaker C:Doesn't even matter the timeline.
Speaker C:It just mattered that, like, what happened is that this dude became so paranoid and so desiring control because he felt out of control, which was very similar to the first movie.
Speaker C:He felt out of control when he was a hostage, and then he gets out of that, and then he feels out of control when these aliens come.
Speaker C:So he's like, yo, never again.
Speaker A:I'm not going to dispute that.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I kind of feel like both of y' all are right.
Speaker C:I spent like 15 minutes analyzing Marvel, baby.
Speaker C:That's awesome podcast material, apparently.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:So K B, yo is like American Idol, bro.
Speaker A:Can sing too, bros. A cheat code.
Speaker A:I did not know that he was on America Idol.
Speaker A:That's wild to me.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's made a couple of videos with some.
Speaker B:Some influencers and it's like, that dude can really blow, man.
Speaker B:I mean, he's got.
Speaker A:Definitely got.
Speaker C:This is the first time I'm ever hearing this.
Speaker C:Like, y' all talk about it.
Speaker C:It's the first time I'm ever hearing it.
Speaker B:He's got the best.
Speaker B:He's got one of the best boy band sounds.
Speaker B:Sounds coming out of his mouth than I've ever.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:He's good.
Speaker B:If like I said, which is crazy.
Speaker C:For a boy band sound to come out of somebody that looks like that.
Speaker B:Exactly, Exactly.
Speaker B:That's insanity because he, like, looking like he sounded like NSYNC and looking like Reacher.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's just kind of dope.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker C:He's a hybrid, man.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker C:He is a white chick hybrid.
Speaker C:Right now he's got.
Speaker C:He's got the buff danger in him because he reaches.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:You mean to tell me he can sing a love song in a pop format.
Speaker C:Holy man.
Speaker B:Decent, too.
Speaker B:Like, he.
Speaker B:Man, that.
Speaker B:That rant he went on about Trump and all that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he doesn't like Trump.
Speaker A:Like, what the.
Speaker A:Like this guy.
Speaker C:Hybrid man.
Speaker C:Yeah, Hybrid.
Speaker A:He's got some black in us.
Speaker B:I don't know if he cookout material yet, but you showing me some good signs.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So Mogo Cowboys up here.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna steal this question.
Speaker A:Question.
Speaker A:Because he asked KB Yako what he thought about Winter Soldier.
Speaker A:I'm gonna steal that.
Speaker A:I love Winter Soldier.
Speaker A:Yeah, that movie.
Speaker B:You said as much.
Speaker B:Many times.
Speaker A:The best Captain America movie ever.
Speaker A:Without question.
Speaker A:I enjoyed the whole story.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, but all the Captain America movies are pretty good.
Speaker A:But that one that was top.
Speaker A:The bottom them, like, it kept my attention.
Speaker A:I saw it in a movie theater and honestly, I could have went back and saw that right after again.
Speaker A:That was great.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:That's probably in my top three best Marvel movies ever.
Speaker A:Create every.
Speaker A:Every dead.
Speaker A:To be honest, if I have to be real honest about it, it's not gonna be better than End Game.
Speaker A:But top three.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can see it.
Speaker A:Two or three without a question.
Speaker A:Question.
Speaker A:I don't know what would be the other one at this moment in time, Maybe if I Think about it.
Speaker A:I could come up with one.
Speaker A:But Endgame and Winter Soldier is not far behind in there.
Speaker A:You know, I did watch the Doomsday trailer, and Moby and I were having a discussion about it earlier today, so I'm gonna bring it to the front.
Speaker A:First of all, Ag, have you seen the Dooms?
Speaker A:The second Doomsday trailer?
Speaker B:I have half.
Speaker A:Okay, this is my theory.
Speaker A:My theory that Cap that.
Speaker A:That Steve Rogers is a smoke screen all day, that something bad's gonna happen with that.
Speaker A:Like, Moby had a very good theory about it.
Speaker A:My theory is, is that motherfucker's bad because he thinks Captain America's evil.
Speaker C:And I'm just like.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:But the Hammer knows.
Speaker B:The Hammer knows the reason why Steve Rogers was able to handle the Hammer to begin with is because of purity of heart.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Do I have that correct?
Speaker B:Doesn't the Hammer know who you are?
Speaker C:Ag.
Speaker C:I. I'm with you.
Speaker C:And honestly, I'm like, hey, man, I get it.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker C:It'd be a cool story if this Captain America somehow was evil.
Speaker C:But ain't no way they about to.
Speaker C:Like, you're only bringing him back because a.
Speaker C:There's a whole bunch of white backlash about Sam Wilson being Captain America, which say what he want, that's that it's out there.
Speaker C:Also, Marvel's done so bad in the last couple years where they're just like, hey man, we got to get our cash cow characters, characters back in the forefront, but they're never gonna make Captain America be evil.
Speaker C:Now, he might be doing something unknowingly supporting evil, but the whole point of Captain America's character is he has.
Speaker C:He's a villain in my way, in many ways, because his moral compass is too high.
Speaker C:I've talked about this before.
Speaker C:That's why I never like Captain America.
Speaker C:Moral compass is too high.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But the cool thing about Captain America is if you're going to make somebody have that high of a moral compass, you don't make them super powerful.
Speaker C:Perfect Marvel did it because if not, he's Superman and that shit's unrealistic.
Speaker C:I hate super.
Speaker A:I mean, so I think he might.
Speaker C:Unwittingly have caused some bad to happen and now he's trying to fix it.
Speaker C:And maybe because he's trying to fix it, he's going to end up up inadvertently like making some bad stuff happen.
Speaker C:But I think Reuben thinks he's just full fledged evil, Cap, like the hell Hydra.
Speaker C:Captain America from the comic book, which.
Speaker C:That was a cool story.
Speaker C:I just don't think they're bringing that to the mcu, man.
Speaker A:So, so here, this is why.
Speaker A:This is what I think the reason why I think so is.
Speaker A:Is Captain America necessarily going to be, quote unquote, evil?
Speaker A:I don't think he's going to.
Speaker A:To be evil, but I think that's not the Captain America that's on the normal planet.
Speaker A:And I think something happens to him.
Speaker A:He may be pure of heart, but yo, what if somehow some happened and he lost Peggy?
Speaker A:And remember, he's still pretty young at that point.
Speaker A:Point.
Speaker B:He lost Peggy, but he's already lost her one time when you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And then only that still, as far.
Speaker A:As we know, it still goes against.
Speaker C:His moral compass though, man.
Speaker C:Like, he's not gonna do bad just to get Peggy back based on his moral compass.
Speaker A:But his morals, his moral compass can be afraid.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:He met.
Speaker A:Whatever he's doing, he may think it's the right thing.
Speaker A:That'll mean it's not the right thing.
Speaker C:I can agree with you on that.
Speaker C:He might be unwitt something that's bad.
Speaker C:But like you were like, you think they're just gonna make Cap be bad?
Speaker C:I'm just like, well, you know, I'm.
Speaker B:Gonna, I'm gonna give Reuben a little bit on this.
Speaker B:And this is why.
Speaker B:Because my problem with Captain America was he knowingly did something that was bad for the whole.
Speaker B:For the one when he went and tried to protect Bucky.
Speaker A:Well, not just that.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And it bothered the crap out of me.
Speaker B:I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:But not just that.
Speaker A:He went back in time and took something for himself that automatically changed the timeline.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Isn't that what caused all this stuff to start?
Speaker C:That's why I said I don't think that he's bad.
Speaker C:I think he did.
Speaker C:He might have done something that unwittingly caused some bad to happen.
Speaker C:But the other.
Speaker A:But the other thing is we saw old Steve, Roger Rogers.
Speaker A:And if I'm correct in the old.
Speaker A:In that Captain America.
Speaker A:I think he said Steve Rogers died.
Speaker A:In the last Captain America movie.
Speaker A:I think he said he died.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was an old man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's like, so who is this young?
Speaker A:That's why.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I hear.
Speaker B:Maybe I hear you.
Speaker A:Because we still got the whole situation with Fantastic Four somehow coming to the Earth where everybody else is, but we don't know how they got there or why they're there.
Speaker A:Well, doom clearly comes from that Earth because Reed Richards in this in the joint talks about him in Reverence.
Speaker A:So he knows him.
Speaker A:Some went down on that because remember, Fantastic Four is on a different planet.
Speaker A:Planet is not on the normal planet.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Different universe.
Speaker A:So something happened there.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I, I think they're gonna explain it very well.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, this is up.
Speaker A:And I don't understand how you bring back old Cap just because you want to bring back old Cap.
Speaker A:There's some going on.
Speaker A:And, and here's the other the thing.
Speaker A:Maybe the, maybe the hammer went to him because the hammer is like, oh, yeah, this my boy.
Speaker A:And then he gets in his hands and he realized that ain't his boy.
Speaker A:No, the reason why I say that is because in Love and Love and Thunder, okay, it is proven that the hammer and the ax, they have minds of their own.
Speaker A:They talk about that in that whole movie.
Speaker B:I mean, I hear what you're saying,.
Speaker C:But they deem you worthy or not.
Speaker A:No, no, you don't trick them.
Speaker A:But here, but remember, in Love and Thunder, he would like monier would not go back to Thor.
Speaker A:Not because Thor wasn't worthy.
Speaker A:Is because they had beef because he made that.
Speaker A:He made the ax in Endgame without Endgame, Infinity War, Thor.
Speaker A:So he was.
Speaker A:I know it sounds stupid because Love and Thunder is a very questionable movie all in his own, but yo, man, half that movie talks about how the Hammer was pissed off at Thor.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then he really, he, he didn't remember.
Speaker A:And then he got the Hammer when he went back in time from back when that horrible ass Thor, the Dark Order movie came out.
Speaker A:He went and got the Hammer from that time.
Speaker A:So there's still some going on with that.
Speaker A:And I think what happens is he went to Cap because he's like, yo, what's up, man?
Speaker A:You, My bad.
Speaker A:Oh, this, this ain't the dude.
Speaker A:And this, and that's when it goes south.
Speaker A:Because remember, he get the hammer and they cut it off, off.
Speaker A:I hear that, man.
Speaker B:But the Hammer would have never came to him.
Speaker A:And the Hammer knows, but that's not the truth anymore.
Speaker C:I'm cool with Reuben's reach theory.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, hey, look man, the movies, the movies told us.
Speaker A:The movies told us though.
Speaker B:But also the movie told us, like when Steve Rogers first had the Hammer, the he was the only one that could handle it.
Speaker B:Straight away, the Hammer knows.
Speaker B:So how could the Hammer be tricked?
Speaker C:Ag, man.
Speaker A:How could a hammer be jealous?
Speaker C:Let him have his reach theory, man.
Speaker C:Here's the thing, man.
Speaker C:I, I, I firmly think Captain America is not going to be on the side that he needs to be on.
Speaker C:I just don't think it's going to be like a choice.
Speaker C:I think it's going to be like he inadvertently does not know that what he's doing caused this.
Speaker C:Or maybe he does know what he did cause and that's what he's trying to make amends for right now.
Speaker B:12, 18, 26.
Speaker B:We're going to find out.
Speaker A:I mean, here's the thing, man.
Speaker A:You don't bring back Chris Evans for some bullshit.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:And I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker B:It's just like I said, man.
Speaker B:I've heard so many breakdowns to even help me get to the.
Speaker B:Get to the place where I can understand Robert Downey Jr playing Doom to start with.
Speaker B:It took a lot of video watching on YouTube for me to understand what happened happen.
Speaker B:However, with the Hammer thing, I'm going by what I've already seen.
Speaker B:The Hammer is like Excalibur.
Speaker B:It's like, I don't.
Speaker B:I don't mess with you until it's like, I don't mess with you.
Speaker B:I don't mess with you.
Speaker B:It's never gonna happen.
Speaker B:I don't mess with you.
Speaker B:I'll mess with you.
Speaker B:It ain't never gonna happen.
Speaker B:But this guy, he's the one.
Speaker B:So Excalibur knows when that guy's not worthy.
Speaker A:Also.
Speaker B:Also.
Speaker B:So that's why I was kind of pushing back on what you were saying.
Speaker B:However, from a plot standpoint, I understand exactly what you're saying.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:I mean, because here's the thing, man and Thor, Love and Thunder, which really wasn't a good movie.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:Even for me.
Speaker B:I'm saying it was.
Speaker A:It wasn't a good movie.
Speaker A:But most of that movie was about, you know, moon year going to Jane Foster and like, he's talking to the Hammer like half the damn movies.
Speaker A:Like, yo, man, what happened?
Speaker A:How come you ain't come back to me?
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:Like, it's the stupidest ever.
Speaker A:But Marvel don't do on accident, man.
Speaker A:They don't.
Speaker B:100 I. I agree.
Speaker A:Because if you'd have told me that that horrible ass movie Age of Ultron was a reason why Infinity War happened, I'd have been like, man,.
Speaker B:Age of Ultron was horrible.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:It was not.
Speaker B:I don't know if I'd say horrible.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:Okay, I won't say horrible, but it wasn't a good movie at the beginning.
Speaker A:It just wasn't.
Speaker A:Your first couple watches is like, what are we doing?
Speaker A:But Then as as happens, you find out so many Easter eggs in that movie.
Speaker A:Like, that movie was a straight up Easter egg movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was.
Speaker A:The only cool thing about it was.
Speaker A:Was Ultron.
Speaker A:I mean, that was cool, but they killed Quicksilver off in it for what?
Speaker A:But then that helped made Wanda an avenger.
Speaker A:And then at we see where Wanda is a day dead, you know, but we know she's coming back and it's just a whole bunch of.
Speaker B:Did they kill her off though?
Speaker B:For real?
Speaker B:Real.
Speaker B:I don't feel like they did.
Speaker A:They dropped the mountain on her, man.
Speaker B:But I hear you say her ass be dead.
Speaker A:But she ain't.
Speaker A:Let's just be real.
Speaker A:She ain't.
Speaker A:And she's coming back in and Vision quest and that's whatever.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, it's.
Speaker A:I mean, I know this episode wasn't about Marvel today, but it is now.
Speaker A:Yo, man, it's one.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's one of those things, man, where I'm just not gonna be fooled, man.
Speaker A:Marvel's.
Speaker B:Marvel's been fooling my ass for years and they.
Speaker B:And apparently you've been preparing not to be fooled.
Speaker B:Is that what we're doing?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:I didn't know this.
Speaker B:So much space in your life, bro.
Speaker A:You will.
Speaker B:Hey, Clementh Rock is not going to land on you.
Speaker A:Hell no.
Speaker A:And then on top of that, and then on top of that, you tell us that, oh, we're getting a new Black Panther movie in two years.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And we got the new Black Panther.
Speaker B:Uhhuh.
Speaker A:So you're telling us about him two years ahead of time.
Speaker A:Tell me that.
Speaker A:That going to be in something.
Speaker B:I mean, I just something before, honestly, I liked it when the sister was the Black Panther.
Speaker B:What was wrong with that?
Speaker B:Is that not a good idea or.
Speaker A:Well, the problem.
Speaker A:The problem with her being a Black Panther, she's a little too bloodthirsty because she's.
Speaker A:Well, she has.
Speaker B:She's still upset about her brother.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Well, she's upset about.
Speaker A:She's not really upset about her brother.
Speaker A:She's really upset about her mother.
Speaker A:The dude killed his mom 100.
Speaker B:I mean, so what's wrong with that?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I'm just saying, like, you know, as Mo B would say, she's way too emotional to.
Speaker A:To do that.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's not the move is because.
Speaker A:I mean they had it because she sure he was a Black Panther for a little bit, maybe a year.
Speaker A:Maybe she's like a second Black Panther.
Speaker A:But yeah, she ain't the number one by any means whatsoever.
Speaker A:And I just think that the other part is, and I hate to say it, yo, man, her.
Speaker A:Her life, her real life person Persona has made it challenging for Marvel to keep her.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:What does she do in real life?
Speaker A:Because she out here talking.
Speaker A:Talking her opinion, which good, better and different.
Speaker A:I mean, she be saying like, that I can't remember exactly, so I'm not gonna try to paraphrase her, but, you know, like, if it is on the left, Lily was saying about COVID how that won't real.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:And that's the lady that played in the Wasp.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, they dropped.
Speaker B:They dropped her like a bad habit.
Speaker A:Well, no, she played in the last one.
Speaker A:I don't know if we're gonna see her ass anymore, though.
Speaker A:You know, she might be because she shut the up.
Speaker A:I mean, when it's all said done, is that.
Speaker B:Is that the remedy?
Speaker A:Money runs a day, bro.
Speaker C:That was so funny.
Speaker B:I mean, Shirley, did he curse good that time?
Speaker B:Cuz, that was pretty funny.
Speaker A:I mean, sometimes you get paid enough to shut the up like Mo B.
Speaker A:Am I wrong?
Speaker C:Man?
Speaker C:You're not wrong.
Speaker B:I mean, that was hilarious, bro.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker B:That's got to be.
Speaker B:That's got to be the intro.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm not trying to lie here, man, but sometimes.
Speaker A:Hey, man, you know, some people, like Gina Carano, she was saying about COVID and Disney dropped her ass.
Speaker B:Well, she was saying things about a lot of things, and they asked her to do it, and then she went triple down.
Speaker B:Yeah, because they asked her to do it like two or three times before they let her go.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, they gave her a lot of rope.
Speaker B:They gave her a lot of rope, and she hung herself with it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And then, what was it, six months ago?
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's fighting Ronda Rousey for 30 seconds.
Speaker A:Seconds.
Speaker B:Why did she even bother to do that?
Speaker B:Was she, like, hard up for money?
Speaker B:We all knew who was going to win that.
Speaker B:Even though I heard that she.
Speaker A:I didn't see the fight, but no.
Speaker B:One needed to see that fight, bro.
Speaker C:You didn't like.
Speaker C:It was like you said, it was less than 30 seconds.
Speaker C:It wasn't really a fight.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It was the closest I've ever seen mixed martial arts.
Speaker C:Looked like wwe, man.
Speaker C:It was just like, yo, I don't know, man.
Speaker B:I just thought it was a bad idea on Dana White's part.
Speaker B:I'm like, bro, what are you doing?
Speaker A:Doing?
Speaker C:I mean, Dana White would.
Speaker A:Was it Dana White, though?
Speaker C:First of all, Dana White would do Anything for money.
Speaker C:Like, he, he, he has, he has basically said, I suck your dick for the rice price.
Speaker A:I think he has.
Speaker A:For God's sakes.
Speaker A:The dude lost $250,000 by putting that on the, on the White House lawn.
Speaker A:Even though people said it was a good day.
Speaker A:Day.
Speaker A:I mean, it was like 90 degrees out there and were sweating and fighting like that.
Speaker A:Could.
Speaker A:I hope they got, I hope they got bonuses just for fighting outside, because that couldn't have been safe.
Speaker C:Forget the outside.
Speaker C:I mean, fighting outside.
Speaker C:I mean, look, they, it's been done before.
Speaker C:Boxing has been done outside.
Speaker C:Like, it's been done before.
Speaker C:But my thing is, it's like, yo, you're at the White House.
Speaker C:Why are we doing this at the white light?
Speaker C:And I'm usually not the person that's like, yo, certain decorum.
Speaker C:Like, hey, man, there's got to be a line, man, that's just got to be a line.
Speaker B:It says Trump, we're talking about.
Speaker C:No, I get it.
Speaker C:I'm not saying Trump has the line or is exhibited having it.
Speaker C:I'm saying that's my ultimate problem with it.
Speaker C:Before, we were like, hey, you know, it's a Trump event.
Speaker C:Is that the White House?
Speaker C:It's like, yo, the fact that it's at the White House is the problem.
Speaker C:It's like, yo, man, this, this shouldn't be going.
Speaker C:Like, I don't want to see my favorite, favorite NBA teams play in front of the White House either.
Speaker C:It's like, yo, it's the White House, man.
Speaker A:Let it be for that.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like, yo, man, this, this ain't the place for that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I, I hear all the things you're saying, but again, you have to.
Speaker C:But I get it.
Speaker C:I didn't expect better from Trump.
Speaker C:What I'm saying is I expect better from everybody else.
Speaker C:And maybe that's my problem.
Speaker B:Like, well, loyalty.
Speaker B:The loyalty, you know, blind loyalty will make you do a lot of things.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:That's how you.
Speaker A:And that's how, you know Dana, Dana White is rich.
Speaker A:And he didn't give a.
Speaker A:Because you automatically took a half a million dollar hit for.
Speaker A:So you could say, hey, man, we had UFC on the White House lawn.
Speaker A:Now that's a flex.
Speaker A:Because you know what's not going to happen.
Speaker A:Anybody else ain't never doing that.
Speaker A:Congrats to your flex.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker C:The thing is about protection.
Speaker C:It's like, yo, man, I know this administration, is it going to give me flack on anything?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I was about to say that very.
Speaker C:Yeah, it Ain't about the flex.
Speaker C:It's about.
Speaker C:Hey, like I said.
Speaker C:Which is why I. I said what I said.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:I think he's proven that he'll still suck any dick for the right price.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't disagree.
Speaker C:There is no sexual favor he will not do for the right price.
Speaker A:I mean, Moko Cowboy, UFC in the ballroom as a first of it.
Speaker A:First of all, that ballroom, man, like,.
Speaker B:The ballroom's never gonna happen.
Speaker C:Sir, can I ask a question?
Speaker C:Mike, I get it.
Speaker C:You know, there's supposed to be all these security parameters and like, all this built in stuff for the ballroom.
Speaker C:But, like, why does a ballroom take this long to get built?
Speaker B:Because is there so many?
Speaker B:From an engineering, architecture standpoint, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker B:And he's trying to find somebo that will do it anyway.
Speaker B:That's the problem.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You took out the east wing so you could build this ballroom, and you still haven't built this yet, bro.
Speaker A:Like, Taco Bell's going quicker than this.
Speaker C:Like, I've got over the fact that, like, what the.
Speaker C:Are we spending all this money on building the ballroom?
Speaker C:Like, I'm not even on that no more.
Speaker C:I'm just like, how long does it take to build this room?
Speaker B:Like, that's what I just told you.
Speaker B:That's what's taking so long.
Speaker B:He's trying to find somebody who will do the job that can't or can't and should not be done.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And honestly, when it's all said, none, just like I said, you get the.
Speaker A:Who put up Taco Bells in 30 days, man?
Speaker A:Because you know what?
Speaker A:The Taco Bell people.
Speaker A:Those Taco Bells ain't going no damn where.
Speaker A:And they put them shits up literally in 30 days, bro.
Speaker A:They could have put up a ballroom if you gave him six months.
Speaker C:I mean, I' ma disagree, because once again, I do understand the ballroom has to have a certain level of security parameters, certain materials that have to be done.
Speaker C:He also was talking about building a secure facility underneath it, which is like, yo, facility?
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker C:He's not trying to build a ballroom.
Speaker C:He's trying to build a castle that nobody else can enter.
Speaker C:Because like I said, he doesn't have plans on ever leaving this.
Speaker A:I mean, he's already talking about up the elections, and I'm just like, jeez, you know, it's just like, God, come on, man.
Speaker B:Talking about that the first couple months he was president, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm surprised that people still think we're going to have him.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker C:I've just got to the point where I'm just like, look man, I will be pleasantly surprised if we have him.
Speaker A:I just think it's sad and a little funny that we're supposed to be out here fighting a small ass country and we can't put these in a headlock and tell these to tap.
Speaker A:We supposed to be the goddamn United States of America.
Speaker A:And this little ass country is like, I ain't tapping.
Speaker A:And we're just like, this is like.
Speaker C:One of the worst things to happen.
Speaker C:And yeah, not, not just the war.
Speaker C:All war is, is innately bad.
Speaker C:Bad because there's really, it's never really a positive benefit to war.
Speaker C:However, for so long, the thing that most of the big countries had going for them was the fact that little countries didn't want to go to war with them because you knew instantly it's not going to end well for you.
Speaker C:Yeah, this has shown a whole bunch of other countries that like, hey man, man, we got technology too.
Speaker C:And anything short of nuclear weapons, like we can kind of hold out.
Speaker C:And I feel like most little countries are probably looking at this going, I mean these ain't about.
Speaker C:I mean we can do it too.
Speaker A:They're not trying to really beat them because they really try to beat them.
Speaker A:This would have been over months ago.
Speaker C:I think that's an ignorant way of thinking.
Speaker C:I think that's, that's path past.
Speaker C:Because in the past it was like, yo, we just have such superior technology, weaponry and overwhelming numbers that we can do this.
Speaker C:But now with everybody have so many countries have access to like drones, military, security, weapons, all this stuff and anything short of nuclear the like.
Speaker C:Because that's always used to be the big thing.
Speaker C:Like the big countries could be like, yo man, you know we got these nukes, right?
Speaker C:But now everybody knows, you know what you don't want to do.
Speaker C:We know you don't really want to launch these nukes because everybody did.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's like, what are you doing now?
Speaker C:Oh, you're going to launch these surface to air missiles.
Speaker C:Well, we got those too.
Speaker C:We got security for that too.
Speaker A:But I'm not, I didn't say that because we should have overwhelming weapons and all that.
Speaker A:I'm saying that we are not strategically hidden areas.
Speaker A:If we wanted to really destroy the them, we would hit strategic areas and call that a day.
Speaker C:But you got to know where the strategic areas are.
Speaker A:But, but Moco cowboy, he just put this up here.
Speaker A:He's right.
Speaker A:I don't Think, you know, we don't have the appetite for ground war.
Speaker A:I don't think that's the case.
Speaker A:I think we do.
Speaker A:I think the problem is that Trump ain't trying to do that because once he does that, all his powers to it because.
Speaker A:Because all his people don't want this anyway.
Speaker A:And once you go into a ground war, once you put boots on the ground, you have to call it a war.
Speaker A:And as you know, he's saying every word but war, you know, and it's just like it's the dumbest ever.
Speaker A:But as long as ground troops never touch, you can't really call.
Speaker A:Call it a war in his mind.
Speaker A:But clearly we're in a goddamn war.
Speaker A:And I mean, if you want to be, and if you really want to be savage, you would take out all the bridges, all the tunnels, like you would.
Speaker A:You would cripple their infrastructure.
Speaker A:I mean, and he ain't trying to do that.
Speaker A:He is trying to basically scare them into just submitting.
Speaker A:And they're just like, we're in the Middle East.
Speaker A:It's just another day for us.
Speaker A:You don't got.
Speaker A:You don't got that want, bro.
Speaker A:And that and that.
Speaker A:And they're right.
Speaker A:He don't.
Speaker A:He don't got that one.
Speaker A:And plus he started some that he can't finish because he thought he could scare people.
Speaker A:And then it's like, man, you ain't scaring us.
Speaker A:You now it's like, well, what do.
Speaker B:We do now, boss?
Speaker A:Well, I don't know, you know, I guess we keep throwing some surface of air missiles and hitting a whole bunch of nothing.
Speaker A:Maybe they'll get scared.
Speaker A:Oh, well, they're hitting a whole bunch of nothing.
Speaker A:So it like.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, it's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:Look, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I know how war works.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:And I'm not one of those smart in the Pentagon who do all that.
Speaker A:All I know though is we shouldn't have been in this in the first place.
Speaker A:You wanted the oil and now you up.
Speaker A:So now the straight is being.
Speaker A:Being controlled by them because at the beginning of this, everybody could just roll through the street.
Speaker A:So now you went backwards.
Speaker A:And how was before?
Speaker A:Yeah, man, he's.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's a dumbass.
Speaker A:And I will go back with Moby.
Speaker A:He is now doing all this so he can call.
Speaker A:So he can finally call it a war.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker A:And cease all of the elections.
Speaker A:And the problem is our congress is stupid enough to allow it to happen.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because I.
Speaker A:Look, man, we are three dudes who are remotely educated.
Speaker A:We can't be the only motherfuckers seeing this shit.
Speaker A:Like we put people in Washington and we see this and y' all don't, then we need to rethink how we send people to watching it because, well, I didn't see this coming.
Speaker A:That's when you get the Kevin R emoji.
Speaker A:When he's blinking at them like, what the.
Speaker A:I mean, cuz, you're supposed to be smarter than us.
Speaker A:You're supposed to make decisions for us.
Speaker A:And you don't see this.
Speaker A:You don't see what we see, man.
Speaker B:We have two separate agendas, sir.
Speaker B:I mean, because if.
Speaker A:No, we do.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:I'm just saying somebody up there has got to see.
Speaker B:Doesn't matter because the person in charge and the person that's willing to run, run roughshod over people that are supposed to be, you know, guardrails.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Does it matter?
Speaker A:No, no, I completely understand.
Speaker A:I'm completely, completely with you because you're, you're 1% right.
Speaker A:Like they have.
Speaker A:Because their lack of doing nothing has now made him feel empowered to do what he feels like he can do.
Speaker A:And now we're all get for it.
Speaker A:Thank.
Speaker A:Thank you Congress.
Speaker B:Well, they're trying to hang on to power and that's the way to do it.
Speaker B:Still, he still has enough power, more than enough to destroy your courage career if you go against him.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah, if you're, if you're.
Speaker B:Still afraid to lose your job because there are no term limits, then he's not the guy to toy with.
Speaker B:If you're on the Republican side, especially now if you're on the left.
Speaker B:Okay, but if you're on the right and you say something, it's a problem.
Speaker B:If you want to keep your power, it's a problem.
Speaker A:I guess the interesting thing is, you know, what are we three months away?
Speaker A:Away A little under three months away for the election.
Speaker A:One if we have it, you know, cuz Lord knows.
Speaker B:Well, half Congress is, is going to allow him to say something dumb like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, everybody's cheating because you know, if we not win, if he not winning, we cheating.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's that.
Speaker A:And then, you know, he's not.
Speaker A:Yo, man, he don't even know if these Republicans that, that he put up there are even gonna win.
Speaker A:Like they could all get beat the down.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:Yeah, I just, you know, I.
Speaker A:Hey man, all I, I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm not wishing for a miracle.
Speaker A:I'm just wishing for you know, Hope.
Speaker B:You're wishing for hope, Okay?
Speaker B:I mean, that's a wish.
Speaker B:That's a wish.
Speaker A:You know, I'd like to say something else, but that's how get, you know, the Secret Service at your house.
Speaker A:And I ain't trying to do that because I. I got to do you.
Speaker B:You have said enough for that to happen based on your own fears, so I don't know why you're stopping now.
Speaker A:Look at this guy.
Speaker A:This guy's in darkness, and he's still.
Speaker B:Hey, that's dedication right there.
Speaker B:That's dedication.
Speaker A:Question I gotta ask, man.
Speaker A:You're not running this off your phone, are you, 100?
Speaker C:Oh, of course I am.
Speaker C:Of course I am.
Speaker B:He doesn't have power.
Speaker B:How do you think he's doing this?
Speaker A:I mean, he's.
Speaker B:He's using the hot spot on his phone.
Speaker B:It's that dedication, man.
Speaker A:First of all.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker B:That's dedication, sir.
Speaker A:Hey, man, he's.
Speaker B:He's better than me because I'd have been like, deuces.
Speaker B:I'll see y' all next week.
Speaker B:He already warned us, so.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker A:So it's pretty bad there, movie.
Speaker C:I mean, power's out.
Speaker C:I don't know if it's really bad outside.
Speaker A:I was going to say.
Speaker A:Have you not looked outside?
Speaker C:For what?
Speaker A:Just to see if it's real.
Speaker C:Outside got to do with me.
Speaker C:What that outside got to do with me inside.
Speaker A:This guy.
Speaker C:I can hear it.
Speaker C:Rain.
Speaker C:Rain.
Speaker C:It was raining hard.
Speaker C:It's not raining as hard now.
Speaker A:Well, I'm glad everybody.
Speaker A:I assume everybody's safe.
Speaker C:It's thundering lightning outside.
Speaker C:Why am I gonna be by the window?
Speaker C:Like, hey, man, like.
Speaker A:No, I mean, you're by a window, though.
Speaker C:Like, once again, I'm not gonna look out the window.
Speaker C:I know what's going on out there.
Speaker B:Oh, boy.
Speaker A:Ah, well, it's not a secret.
Speaker C:This ain't a secret storm happening right now.
Speaker A:I guess I do have a question then.
Speaker A:We're gonna.
Speaker A:We gonna finish this out today.
Speaker A:Was somebody.
Speaker A:Was anybody playing Xbox or something when this happened and they all super pissed?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Oh, they should be.
Speaker C:They probably streaming something.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're probably streaming something, and they're like, what the.
Speaker C:They have phones.
Speaker B:Be a hot spot, too.
Speaker C:Yeah, I said they're all downstairs in the fireplace, room chilling.
Speaker C:Want everybody to be on the same level.
Speaker C:Pretty much, so.
Speaker A:But you're not with them.
Speaker C:I mean, one is right there in other room, and they're just another room.
Speaker C:Okay, well, nobody's upstairs.
Speaker C:I guess that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Nobody's upstairs.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:So with all that being said, man, we'll start with Moby this time because we don't know how much longer his.
Speaker A:His joint gonna last.
Speaker A:So, though, what's on your mind, Moby?
Speaker C:I mean, why would it not last?
Speaker C:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I mean, it's a lot of.
Speaker A:It's a lot of juice coming through that the hot spot, bro.
Speaker A:I mean, you might.
Speaker A:You might.
Speaker A:I don't know how many.
Speaker A:I don't know how many gigabytes you got.
Speaker B:As long as the cell tower doesn't get hit, he's golden.
Speaker C:But I'm.
Speaker C:I'm pretty sure we're not going to use 50.
Speaker C:50 Gigs in the next, like, 30 minutes.
Speaker C:Well, I'm good.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:Well, let's be safe.
Speaker A:What's the.
Speaker A:Your mind, Moby?
Speaker C:Nothing, man.
Speaker C:Like, just.
Speaker C:I was gonna.
Speaker C:We talked about Marvel, like, this whole time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And most of this.
Speaker C:This outing today was about Marvel, which is crazy, because that's actually what I was going to talk about.
Speaker C:It was like, yo, man, it was so good to actually be back in the movie theater.
Speaker C:So I. I guess it's not just about Marvel, but going to the movies.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like, I realize that my kids will never truly know the power of that because I don't know how much longer, like, the movie theater industry is really going to be thriving or, like, are they even really interested in it?
Speaker C:Because, I mean, they came to.
Speaker C:They went to the movies because, like, we were interested, but they don't ever really ask, hey, can we go to the movies and see this?
Speaker C:Like, that's not something I really hear that them talk about.
Speaker C:So I'm almost wondering, like, yo, man, is.
Speaker C:Is this a dying industry?
Speaker C:Because, like, everybody's just like, yo, why would I go to the movie theater when I can just sit on my couch and stream this at home?
Speaker C:But, like, for our generation and probably a couple generations before, it's like, where they gonna go out on a date, man.
Speaker C:Cause, like, yo, movie theaters is like the ultimate date place, which, in retrospect, it's a horrible date idea did, because, like, you're not really talking to the person.
Speaker C:You're basically just sitting in the dark with them.
Speaker C:Which, I mean, look, sometimes that's all you really wanted to do anyway is be in a dark place with them.
Speaker A:What's up, girl?
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But it's like, how bad of a actual date idea was going to the movies?
Speaker C:You're not really Talking.
Speaker C:You're not learning anything about them.
Speaker B:You just.
Speaker C:And depending on what movie you're seeing, you're pretty much just liking or learning, can this chick shut the hell up for two hours?
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's really the only information you really got on.
Speaker C:On the movie theater today.
Speaker C:Just like, yo, is this person capable of not talking for an extended amount.
Speaker A:Of time, of shutting the up for two hours?
Speaker C:Now, granted, that's an important lesson to learn early on.
Speaker A:It really is, but.
Speaker C:And no, this is not me saying I don't want you to talk, but I just need you to know that times and places where we shouldn't be having conversation, and this is one of them.
Speaker C:And if you can't.
Speaker C:If you can't do it on a minimum level of this, then you're never going to be able to do it on a big scale.
Speaker C:Like, think about it, man.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You've all watched.
Speaker C:We've all watched a suspense movie or a horror movie, and big is going on that requires.
Speaker C:Requires some silence and then some chick asking 3, 000 questions when it's just like, yo, I'm telling you, if we got to go now, well, why do we have to go?
Speaker C:What's happening?
Speaker C:Talk to me like, no, sometimes I need you to just know this ain't the place to discuss.
Speaker C:Like, talk about it later.
Speaker A:Moby, I need you to be real, man.
Speaker A:I need.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm being.
Speaker C:I'm being as real as I can.
Speaker C:Because, look, man, I'm not saying anybody ever wants this to happen.
Speaker C:Nobody ever wants, like, a catastrophic event to happen while you're out, like.
Speaker C:But if you had to give me the choice between, do I want a catastrophic event to happen while I'm out with my boys or with my lady?
Speaker C:Give me the boys.
Speaker C:Because, like, I know, know if I take off running, I ain't gotta say nothing.
Speaker C:He gonna be like, boom, we good.
Speaker A:You right about that.
Speaker C:See him take off running.
Speaker A:We good.
Speaker C:Later, if he's like, yo, we gotta go.
Speaker C:If we gotta go right now, I'm not gonna ask no questions that we exit.
Speaker C:Then I'm gonna be like, yo, why was we getting out so fast?
Speaker C:But you know, that.
Speaker C:That situation, nine times out of ten, I'm not saying there's some anomalies out there or you've got to develop some trust.
Speaker C:Like, I honestly think.
Speaker C:And I can say this with confidence, I honestly think in a suspenseful moment and a stressful moment, if I looked at my wife was like, we Got to go right now.
Speaker C:She's not going to ask me a question.
Speaker C:She's going to be like, you don't generally react like this.
Speaker C:We gonna go.
Speaker C:But, man, you know how long we had to build to that?
Speaker C:You know how long we had to build to that?
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:That ain't.
Speaker C:That ain't a first date activity.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, trusting me like that ain't.
Speaker C:They ain't something.
Speaker C:Something that women do right off the bat.
Speaker C:Nor should they, just.
Speaker C:Just for the record, nor should they.
Speaker C:But, like, yeah, man, I'm telling you, if you.
Speaker C:If something catastrophic goes on, Ruby, you'd much rather be with me than the chick you date.
Speaker A:I mean, if I see you running, I just know my ass is.
Speaker A:My ass is done.
Speaker A:Because first of all, I ain't running for no goddamn body or somebody else has got to be behind me.
Speaker A:Maybe some old lady who can't run.
Speaker A:But, yes, if you run, I'm behind you.
Speaker C:Yeah, the thing is, you.
Speaker C:You know that, like, if something happens, you ain't gonna get hit with the inquisitions.
Speaker C:Like, no, nobody's about.
Speaker A:Oh, definitely not.
Speaker C:A whole bunch of questions before we get to the action.
Speaker C:Like, we gonna get to the action first, and then I'mma question these actions later.
Speaker A:Yeah, if I see you take off, I'm like, oh, he running.
Speaker A:I gotta get the out of here.
Speaker C:Like I said, I want to preface this like.
Speaker C:Like, I want to preface this by, like, look, ag.
Speaker C:You talk about it all the time.
Speaker C:Who you choose is an important thing.
Speaker C:Like I said, I firmly in my heart know that.
Speaker C:I'm like, yo, shit got to go down.
Speaker C:She cool.
Speaker C:She like, hey, we gotta get to the action first.
Speaker A:I mean, 100%, yo, man.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cause if I snatch my wife up, she's gone.
Speaker B:I mean, she.
Speaker B:She might ask me a whole bunch of questions after the fact, but in the moment, if I snatch her up and say it's time right now, she's not gonna ask me any questions.
Speaker B:It's a lot of trust.
Speaker B:Like you said, it's a lot of trust.
Speaker C:But you had to build to that, though.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a lot of trust there.
Speaker C:It won't like that on the second date.
Speaker B:45 Years.
Speaker B:45 Years of trust.
Speaker B:Because we knew each other when we were kids.
Speaker B:But that's a long time for somebody to just blindly, you know, saying, I mean.
Speaker A:So I got two things for that.
Speaker A:One, it reminded me of that.
Speaker A:That Dave Chappelle skit when he was a black president and he Was talking about how NATO was going to sanction him.
Speaker A:He was like, hey, you know what y' all can do?
Speaker A:Y' all could shut the fuck up.
Speaker A:You gonna send your army.
Speaker A:Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker A:You ain't got an army.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker A:He was like, shut the up.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:So I thought about that, because that's when you were talking about, you know, don't be saying, just shut the up and rope and move.
Speaker A:I thought that was funny.
Speaker A:And then two.
Speaker A:Nah, that's a very good point.
Speaker A:Because one time at my former job, we had some happen at the center, and I had trained the guys.
Speaker A:I was like, look, if this happens, I'm apologizing right now because I need y' all to do this.
Speaker A:It's not gonna be no, please.
Speaker A:It's not gonna be no, thank you.
Speaker A:It's not gonna be, hey, kid, you.
Speaker A:Nah, it's.
Speaker A:It's gonna be boom, boom, boom.
Speaker A:Be mad at me later.
Speaker A:But I gotta.
Speaker A:We on time.
Speaker A:And unfortunately, some happened like that.
Speaker A:And I looked at them, I was like, I need you to do this, this, this, this.
Speaker A:And they just took off, all because doing training.
Speaker A:And I told them, I apologize for this now, but if I ever need some.
Speaker A:If it's an emergency and I need you to do something, I just need you to do that, like, straight up.
Speaker C:But, Reuben, that.
Speaker C:That comes because, like, dealing with certain people.
Speaker C:And I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm gonna.
Speaker C:I'm gonna eliminate talk about mail.
Speaker C:But dealing with certain people, you don't have to worry about people hitting you with the.
Speaker C:It's not what you said.
Speaker C:It's how you said it.
Speaker C:Because, like, in a stressful situation, what you said is really all that matters, not how.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker C:If I'm like.
Speaker C:If I'm.
Speaker C:If I'm like, yo, get your punk ass out.
Speaker C:We got to go.
Speaker C:Like, I don't want you to be like.
Speaker C:I don't want you to talk to me like that.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:No, I'm saying this because this is.
Speaker C:This is of importance that we get our ads out now.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:And that's kind of what I was telling them.
Speaker A:Hey, I need this shit happening now.
Speaker A:Apologies will happen later and all these other things.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:If I hurt your feelings, I'll apologize later.
Speaker C:But you know what?
Speaker C:I can't apologize to your corpse.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:It's very hollow if I apologize to your dead body.
Speaker A:Sorry about that.
Speaker A:Later.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker C:My apology will probably even sound bad.
Speaker C:I should have listened.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker C:I'm saying I was trying to get.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You.
Speaker C:I. I asked the Lord some questions now because, like, I'm sure you got plenty of them now.
Speaker B:Wow, wow, wow.
Speaker A:Yo, man, CB4, baby.
Speaker A:CB4.
Speaker A:Where trust just died.
Speaker A:And Wacky D was like, you still.
Speaker C:Owe me some money.
Speaker A:Where my money?
Speaker A:I still need my money.
Speaker A:Get your black ass up and get my money.
Speaker A:I was like, yo, that's funny.
Speaker B:That's up.
Speaker A:But it's still funny as.
Speaker A:But yeah, if you.
Speaker C:If you got questions, they can get answered later.
Speaker C:They can get answered later when we meet, or they can get answered by your Lord and savior.
Speaker C:His answers are probably better, but you might not want to be talking to him at the moment.
Speaker A:Dang the move.
Speaker A:Dang the move.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:Thank you, Moby ag, man.
Speaker A:What's on your mind?
Speaker B:Sad news, man.
Speaker B:I have decided that, actually, my wife and I have decided that the flag that represents this country is the new Confederate flag.
Speaker B:Ooh.
Speaker B:It just is.
Speaker B:I have never, in the last 10 years, every time I see the flag, it always leads to a dark place.
Speaker B:And I just feel like when they started changing the direction of the flag, when they started changing the color scheme of the flag, when they started using it in places where I thought was sacrilege is not that way anymore.
Speaker B:And every time I see somebody fly it with zeal, they're always the same type person.
Speaker B:So we're riding along Saturday.
Speaker B:We went out Saturday on date night or date day, because we owe, and we're just talking about it.
Speaker B:And I told her, I, I.
Speaker B:It's a question that I posed to myself, but I asked her about it, and she's like, I never got that deep with it personally, But I agree 100%.
Speaker B:I think old Faithful is faithful to something that's not good at this point in history.
Speaker B:So for me, when I see somebody get extra about it, I'm not saying, you know, if you have a uniform on, it's got it on there or something like that.
Speaker B:That's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:But when I see somebody fly the.
Speaker B:The American flag on their truck or have it in a really, really, really prominent way on their house or whatever it is, I think one thing, I think that you're dangerous to me.
Speaker B:So for me, that was the conversation.
Speaker C:Conclusion.
Speaker B:I think Old Faithful is actually stars and bars now.
Speaker B:That is the new, much more clandestine rebel flag.
Speaker B:That's what's on my mind.
Speaker C:I kind of agree with you.
Speaker C:I got a tactical bag that one of my friends gave me Because I had, like, a book bag drive, and all of them have, like, the American flag tactical patches.
Speaker C:And I found myself, like, just pulling the American flag off 100%, man.
Speaker B:I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:This is not.
Speaker C:I don't think I pieced it together like you said.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:But now that you say it, I'm just like.
Speaker C:I think that's kind of how I feel.
Speaker B:I mean, like I said, man, it's not.
Speaker B:It has nothing in it.
Speaker B:It's a hard to.
Speaker B:It's a hard.
Speaker B:It's hard for me to defend what I'm gonna say because everything I just said when I was a child, when I was a young adult, was completely unpatriotic for me to say.
Speaker B:Blind love and affection for that flag is what you say.
Speaker B:End of story.
Speaker B:You weren't allowed to say anything else.
Speaker B:It's not that I don't love this country, but I also know this country does not love me and doesn't want to.
Speaker B:I also know this country tries to siphon my soul.
Speaker B:And it's not just me as a black person.
Speaker B:It's everybody that's not in line or.
Speaker C:Or.
Speaker B:Or staying in their line lane.
Speaker B:There's that, too.
Speaker B:Because there's an order of things to some people that are in charge.
Speaker B:And when you black or brown, and you're not doing that, you're not standing your lane and all the violence that comes with it.
Speaker B:I think the thing I say the most nowadays is, like, you know, it's hard to commit suicide by hanging when you have two broken legs to begin with.
Speaker B:I don't know how that happens.
Speaker B:I don't know how, you know, people don't get arrested for hanging a body in front of the police office.
Speaker B:And I don't know that.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know how that happens.
Speaker B:So don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:I love being in this country, and it's the only country that I know.
Speaker B:But that flag makes me feel a level of ick that I never thought I'd ever, ever, ever feel.
Speaker B:And that's a real thing, too.
Speaker B:Now, a lot of people don't want to hear that, because some people.
Speaker B:I've said.
Speaker B:Said that too, instantly.
Speaker B:I don't want to hear that.
Speaker B:Well, okay, you let me know who you are.
Speaker B:But, you know, that flag means a lot of things to a lot of people.
Speaker B:Let's not pretend that it doesn't have a dark, bloody, violent, vile side to it.
Speaker B:Let's not pretend that that's not true.
Speaker B:So anyway, like, I Said stars and stripes, Stars and bars are the same in this, in this moment.
Speaker A:So I feel you ag.
Speaker A:I mean, honestly, I just.
Speaker A:I don't know when I lost my attachment to the flag.
Speaker A:I know it's been gone for a very long time.
Speaker A:For me, it's not something.
Speaker A:Once again, it's not something I actually come out and talk about because for what, like, is what it is.
Speaker A:But like, yeah, man, like, I.
Speaker A:You're right, it means something to somebody.
Speaker A:But more importantly, this flag that we're supposed to treat with love and respect and all that, you're right, it shouldn't be blown on the back of trucks.
Speaker A:You shouldn't see a 15 foot flag in the air all tattered.
Speaker A:And they put that bitch up every day at stores and stuff like that.
Speaker A:That, like, as.
Speaker A:As much as we can sit here and, and, and go through all the reasons not to love the flag and whatnot, when it's all said and done, I don't think there are many people who, quote, unquote, love this flag.
Speaker A:So I was detached years ago.
Speaker A:I mean, at certain things, you got to do certain things in certain locations.
Speaker A:But as far as my love for this flag, I mean, I don't necessarily.
Speaker A:I can't sit here and say that it exists anymore for me.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, you're not alone on that.
Speaker A:I mean, to me it's just some.
Speaker A:It's something that people put up and they want to deathly.
Speaker A:They want to definitely feel something for it.
Speaker A:But when it's all said and done, you don't treat it worth a damn anyway.
Speaker A:So, like, why are you sitting here and say, oh, this flag is.
Speaker A:This flag is our future, our history, our past.
Speaker A:Yet that looks like it was in a demolition derby.
Speaker A:Like, why is it on the back of your truck?
Speaker A:Well, but, but that's what I'm saying, right?
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm saying, like, people sit here and they talk about how they love stuff, but if you love stuff, you treat it differently.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, but I mean, that's just those people who sit here and say, love it.
Speaker A:I've never said I loved it.
Speaker A:When you're a kid, you do because you don't have choices.
Speaker A:And when you're adult, you do because that's what you want to do because you have choices.
Speaker A:I ain't big on the flag either, you know, is what it is.
Speaker A:That's just like, I'll never forget, man, a long time ago when I was on a different show and there were guests on the show and they were they were black, and they were.
Speaker A:They're talking about their story about driving from through South Carolina or whatever.
Speaker A:And they stopped on the road because they looked to their right and they saw a cotton field.
Speaker A:And they stopped their car and got on, started crying, and I was kind of just like, okay.
Speaker A:Like, I guess, you know, now I guess I could relate to that because never in my life have I picked cotton.
Speaker A:I understand the symbolism of it, but I don't think ever was I in such a situation emotionally where I felt like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:You know, back in the day, our people used to pick this.
Speaker A:I mean, I understand history, but it's also like, you know, the good thing about history is you should learn it so you don't repeat it as best you can.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I. I just don't have emotional attachments.
Speaker A:Maybe that makes me a sociopath to certain things.
Speaker A:I just don't like things.
Speaker C:I disagree.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't think it's.
Speaker C:That you don't have emotional attachments to things.
Speaker C:I don't think you have emotional attachments to symbols, symbolism.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And that's what the flag is for.
Speaker C:A lot of people, it's.
Speaker C:It's symbolic.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And some.
Speaker C:Some people look at the flag and think different symbolism than maybe us three think, because they think of with.
Speaker C:With the ideals that this country says it's.
Speaker C:It adheres to, and they think that flag represents that.
Speaker C:And then I think we probably appreciate, objectively look at it and go, it would be nice if we actually lived up to what that flag's supposed to represent.
Speaker C:Unfortunately, it never has.
Speaker C:And all that flag actually is, to us is a symbol of failure.
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:When I see it, I'm like, it's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's an idea that we've never actually achieved.
Speaker C:It's an idea that we've never even truly strived for.
Speaker A:Yeah, you got to put in that work, and the work has not been put in.
Speaker A:You know, people can sit here and say, well, we tried.
Speaker A:We tried.
Speaker A:I'm just kind of like, I'm not saying you didn't try.
Speaker C:I'm curious.
Speaker C:I'm curious as to who the we is, because I feel like in our country, and maybe this is just my opinion, and it's okay.
Speaker C:The only people that have ever tried to, like, adhere to what that flag says is people that look like.
Speaker C:Like us, because we have basically done everything that they said we should do as a people to truly be embraced, to the ideals of what that flag represents, and they keep moving the goal post or they just keep changing the field.
Speaker C:So the only people that have ever actually tried to live by the standards of that flag, Black.
Speaker C:Are minorities.
Speaker C:I would agree that they want to kick out the people that ICE is trying to hunt down.
Speaker C:They're the only people that have actually tried to strive towards this American dream that we keep talking about.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Thank you, Ag.
Speaker A:Appreciate.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:Also, real quick, KO says, did we see a story about the Michigan.
Speaker A:The Michigan politician that lost to the other dude who had already quit the waste race?
Speaker A:I did not.
Speaker A:Do y' all know what he's talking about?
Speaker B:The only Michigan thing I knew was won his race, but I didn't know about this.
Speaker B:How you lose to a dude to quit.
Speaker C:Wow, that's wild.
Speaker B:Was this on the Republican side?
Speaker A:I have no idea.
Speaker B:Yeah, I ain't never heard that.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I listen to PR every day.
Speaker B:I ain't never hear that.
Speaker C:Now, now I want.
Speaker C:Now I want to research that because that's.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:It's got to be because if it was a Democratic race, we'd hurt.
Speaker A:We would know about it.
Speaker C:I would say I would, because I don't.
Speaker C:I. I've been tuning out of all things that sound political the last probably month or two.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Well, I haven't been tuning out, but I have been a little engaged age, and I don't remember nothing about this on a Democratic side because Lord knows all they can do is talk about democratic socialism and all this other stuff these days.
Speaker A:That is what it is, I guess.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I had not heard that.
Speaker A:We'll have to do some research and talk about that maybe next week because it sounds like a real.
Speaker A:Amir Hassan lost to Tom Smith.
Speaker A:Search that.
Speaker A:Well, that kind of tells me all I need to know.
Speaker C:Amir Hassan lost to Tom Smith.
Speaker A:Was it based on names?
Speaker A:What I understand.
Speaker A:Was it Republican?
Speaker A:I'm K.B.
Speaker A:Yakka.
Speaker A:Was it.
Speaker A:Or a Democratic ticket?
Speaker A:Because I'm curious on that too.
Speaker A:Because if it was a Democratic ticket, I'm actually shocked.
Speaker A:I didn't hear about it.
Speaker A:But if it was a Republican ticket.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Repo.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm not shocked.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, based on the names, are you surprised that an Amir lost to a Time Smith?
Speaker A:Definitely not.
Speaker A:Definitely not.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:I try not to profile sometimes.
Speaker B:It is what it is, bro.
Speaker C:Yeah, I wasn't trying to either.
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker C:The only information I have is that.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Wait A minute.
Speaker A:I take that back.
Speaker A:I did hear about that because Amir Hassan was backed by Trump.
Speaker A:That dude said that.
Speaker B:Was he?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He, like, redeemed.
Speaker A:Denounce his whole.
Speaker A:His whole religion and stuff.
Speaker A:He did, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember that now.
Speaker A:Now that he brings it up, I completely remember that.
Speaker A:I didn't know he lost, though.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:So he did all that and still lost?
Speaker C:He lost to a guy that quit.
Speaker C:Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker A:And the reason why the dude quit, the reason why I do quit, is because Trump pumped so much money until Hasan, because Hasan was pretty much like, you know, I'm not.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm.
Speaker A:You know, I'm not.
Speaker A:What's his nationality, crap or religion?
Speaker A:He's like, in Islamic or nothing.
Speaker A:You know, I believe in Trump and I believe in the United States.
Speaker A:He kind of renounced, announced all that.
Speaker A:And so Trump was like, yes, I need you on my team.
Speaker A:And I didn't know he lost, so.
Speaker A:Holy moly.
Speaker A:That's funny, because he got.
Speaker A:They put a ton of money in his.
Speaker A:He lost by 20 points.
Speaker A:They put a ton of money into Hassan's joint, and they were talking lose.
Speaker C:About 20 points to dude that said, nah, I'm good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I thought that was unopposed.
Speaker C:It's like the south park thing where he was trying not to win the election.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They just kept voting.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:Please don't vote for me.
Speaker C:I'm not doing this in Michigan.
Speaker A:Michigan.
Speaker C:Tom, we hear you, Tom.
Speaker C:You're such a wise guy.
Speaker A:Yeah, Tom Smith, man.
Speaker A:And yes, that dude's got Caucasian straight up.
Speaker A:Yeah, he quit like a week or two left to go in the race because he didn't have the financial backing to fight him like that.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker C:Hey, shout out to the.
Speaker C:Shout out to the.
Speaker C:Shout out to those people that voted for him.
Speaker C:They was just like, hey, bro, you don't need no money to get our vote.
Speaker C:We good?
Speaker A:And they said.
Speaker A:He said, Tom Smith endorsed a different candidate too.
Speaker A:So he endorsed somebody else, and he.
Speaker C:Still don't even vote for me.
Speaker C:That's a selfless act of somebody that I want to vote for.
Speaker C:Somebody that says, don't vote for me.
Speaker C:The person most equipped for the job is the person that says they don't want it.
Speaker A:Oh, man, that's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:Cause it was a. I mean, it wasn't a big thing, but it was just like, bruh.
Speaker C: phone call was like at like,: Speaker C:Somebody called his campaign manager, called him hey, congrats, Tom.
Speaker C:You talking about he was sleep one.
Speaker A:His ass was sleep too, man.
Speaker C:How?
Speaker A:How?
Speaker C:Yeah, how I win something that I won't end.
Speaker A:But because they couldn't take him off the ballot because that had to be.
Speaker C:The funniest phone call, which, you know, he have.
Speaker C:Oh, man, we gotta look this up.
Speaker C:Did Tom Smith have an acceptance speech?
Speaker C:Did he come out?
Speaker C:I'm just saying, I'm talking about like the next day.
Speaker C:Did Tom Smith come out and be like, I don't know, I ain't even want this.
Speaker A:But I didn't realize Tom Smith won.
Speaker A:Cuz I remember that story.
Speaker A:Cuz they were talking about it on, you know, the Three Letter Network, and I was like, what?
Speaker A:I was shocked because I was like, hold on, bro, you.
Speaker A:You've been Muslim your whole life and now you're not Muslim anymore?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:How does that work?
Speaker A:You know what, you just start eating some pork and like, it's like, I'm not Muslim no more.
Speaker A:Like, what we doing?
Speaker A:I mean, there's no more Allah, it's Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:Like, what are we doing doing?
Speaker B:He told you what we're doing, bruh.
Speaker B:He saw his best chance to win.
Speaker B:We already.
Speaker B:We just Talked about this 20 minutes.
Speaker A:Ago and he took that L. Man, that's hilarious.
Speaker B:And that's the funny thing.
Speaker B:Usually you don't take an L when you go with Trump, but this time he did.
Speaker A:Nah, Trump's people have been taking literally.
Speaker C:All the Trump people taking hills.
Speaker B:I mean, I hear what you're saying and that's true, but I mean, people.
Speaker C:Don't like wars and gas and stuff.
Speaker A:He's noticed that guy.
Speaker A:Gas went down.
Speaker B:Just saying people, people are.
Speaker B:People are still afraid until they stop being afraid of this dude.
Speaker B:Things going to keep popping off.
Speaker B:We'll see though.
Speaker B:But that is crazy though.
Speaker B:You lost to a dude, it should have been unopposed.
Speaker B:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:It's like you lost to a dude that didn't want to do it for real.
Speaker B:You know how, you know how humiliating that kind of loss is?
Speaker B:You couldn't win by yourself.
Speaker A:You can't go back.
Speaker A:You can't even go back to Islam.
Speaker B:He's a man with no country.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker A:He's married and got kids too.
Speaker B:Doesn't matter.
Speaker C:The news headline says it best.
Speaker C:This is awesome.
Speaker C:The first opening sentence of, like, the.
Speaker C:The story.
Speaker C:Thomas Smith, a political unknown who raised almost no money for his campaign, defeated President Donald Trump's endorsed candidate in a Republican primary in Michigan by a landslide.
Speaker A:He Raised.
Speaker C:Almost say it in that sentence.
Speaker C:He raised no money.
Speaker C:Nobody knew who he was.
Speaker C:They was just like, hey, you know what?
Speaker C:We know it's not that guy.
Speaker C:So we vote.
Speaker B:And that goes back to what Moby was saying the hour ago, which is, we ain't trying to have no election.
Speaker B:He ain't gonna have that.
Speaker B:Yeah, we might not have that one.
Speaker A:How sad is it, man?
Speaker A:That a trouble.
Speaker A:A Trump guy literally lost because to nobody.
Speaker A:Well, not even that man.
Speaker A:It's just like, we know why he lost because his name's Hasan.
Speaker A:Like, let's be real about it.
Speaker A:Those people in Michigan were just like, oh, hell no.
Speaker A:We gonna go for that.
Speaker C:Fooling us.
Speaker A:We go for Mr. Tom Smith.
Speaker A:That guy looks like he's probably one of us.
Speaker A:Like, we could.
Speaker A:You could.
Speaker A:We could sit here and sugarcoat that all day, but nah, bro, Tom Smith won this because his name was Tom Smith.
Speaker C:Like, how.
Speaker C:How bad do you have to hate yourself if your name is Amir Hassan right now?
Speaker C:Like, you denounced your religion and the people that you're trying to be accepted by.
Speaker C:Basically, like, we'll take it.
Speaker C:We'll take a dude that don't even want it.
Speaker C:It over you.
Speaker A:Yeah, he came out and was like, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and drop out.
Speaker A:But they had already had the ballots done because after a certain amount, a certain time, they do the ballots already.
Speaker A:So he couldn't do anything.
Speaker A:And they said, hassan, man, let's.
Speaker A:So first of all, let's be real about Michigan.
Speaker A:We don't need to talk about Michigan, but we all know what's in Michigan.
Speaker A:It's cold up there.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker A:It ain't that many of us, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's a lot of them, though.
Speaker B:It's a lot of Hassan up there.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:And Muslim capital of the world.
Speaker B:Or I mean the United States, for sure.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker B:And you lost the environment, bro.
Speaker A:Bro, You.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You supposed to be one of them.
Speaker A:And they was like, you ain't never going to be one of us.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:That's what they said.
Speaker B:The people have spoken,.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, very quick, what's on my mind?
Speaker A:Still trying to get this foot healed.
Speaker A:Got a little blister.
Speaker A:Not a little blister.
Speaker A:Blister on one of my toes.
Speaker A:So that's been pushed back for a little bit.
Speaker A:I never thought I'd say this, but I miss working out.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:I never thought I'd ever say this.
Speaker B:I never thought you'd say it either.
Speaker B:Good for you.
Speaker B:That's really good.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:But here's here's the awesome part about all of it.
Speaker A:I started this journey in June when I joined the gym.
Speaker A:I was about £315.
Speaker A:I started working on out a week later, got myself a trainer.
Speaker A:See him once a week.
Speaker A:So for about six weeks, five weeks.
Speaker A:I see a trainer once a week.
Speaker A:I got on the 20th of June lie.
Speaker A:I. I got my physical.
Speaker A:First of all, a 1C came back 5.6.
Speaker B:You there then, right?
Speaker B:Isn't that good?
Speaker A:That's very good.
Speaker A:Technically, I'm not diabetic.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because my sugar size tell the people where the diabetic limit is because I don't know it.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So Pre diabetic is 5.7 to 6.4.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:That's where you come pre diabetic.
Speaker A:And then anything over 6.4, you're a type 2 diabetic.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So yeah, I've been 5.6 for.
Speaker A:For a year and a half now.
Speaker A:Like my shit's Gucci.
Speaker A:So I just got high sugar because I'm fat.
Speaker A:Like there's really no other way around that.
Speaker A:So he's gonna try to come back.
Speaker A:Go use the rest of that.
Speaker A:Hey, I need somebody else's phone.
Speaker A:So I weighed myself on the 20th of July, £315.
Speaker A:Well, that sucked.
Speaker A:But I'm gaining muscle.
Speaker A:Not really losing weight is what it is.
Speaker A:So I haven't worked out in August because of my toe.
Speaker A:I get on the scale last week because I'm not getting on the scale anymore because I'm gaining muscle, which is heavier than fat.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:So I get on a scale last.
Speaker A:Last week, 308 pounds.
Speaker A:So literally in about two months, I've lost.
Speaker A:I've lost seven pounds, which is awesome.
Speaker A:But I'm kind of mad because I haven't worked out in almost three weeks.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna fully be able to work out this week because the wound is healing on my toe.
Speaker A:But I ain't trying to chance this.
Speaker A:I want this to be done before I go back full bore.
Speaker A:Even though I'm not doing a lot with my feet, it's just.
Speaker A:I don't want to take the chance, so.
Speaker A:But I'm gonna start upper body exercises like I used to do in the gym this week.
Speaker A:So I'm excited for that.
Speaker A:And you know, man, just, you know, it's been a while since I gave a medical update.
Speaker A:The wound is 2 by 3 inches, so it's getting smaller, you know, but because I heal that extraordinary slow ass rate, it's taken forever.
Speaker A:And now with this other, with this blister that burst today.
Speaker A:So that's healing up, it's taking a little bit longer.
Speaker A:So I thought I was be done with this by the end of the summer.
Speaker A:I'm now probably looking at Christmas.
Speaker A:But with that being said, your boy lost seven pounds and in two months, I'm super happy, you know.
Speaker A:But hey, I'm just trying to get in where I fit in.
Speaker A:It's not about the pounds anymore.
Speaker A:It's just about being healthy.
Speaker A:That's all I can ask for, man.
Speaker A:So I say all that to say this, hey, do what, set your mind to do something and you'll get that done.
Speaker A:Even most ob he said that the weather, I'm still gonna be on this damn show.
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