Episode 335
Episode 335: The Dichotomy of Fatherhood: Who Faces Greater Trials?
This podcast episode delves into the intricate dynamics of fatherhood, specifically examining the comparative challenges faced by biological fathers and stepfathers. We engage in a rigorous discourse on whether it is more arduous to fulfill the role of a biological parent, who often bears inherent rights and responsibilities, or that of a stepfather, who may encounter significant emotional and situational complexities without the same legal standing. The conversation further elucidates the societal perceptions surrounding these roles, particularly how stepfathers frequently undertake substantial responsibilities while lacking recognition and authority. Through a nuanced exploration of personal anecdotes and broader implications, we aim to shed light on the multifaceted realities of modern parenting. Our discussion invites listeners to reflect on their own experiences and the broader cultural narratives that shape our understanding of familial roles.
Transcript
How y' all doing?
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Speaker B:This week on the five minute warning.
Speaker C:Every romance movie that a woman thinks of, there's a female villain in it.
Speaker C:And it's usually the main character that's just, you know, spoiler alert.
Speaker C:Usually the main character.
Speaker C:She's usually an awful human being that somehow wins.
Speaker C:And that's what it is.
Speaker C:So as long as the villain is the female and she wins, we love it.
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at that's everywhere you don't want to be.
Speaker B:It's Reuben, Mo B and on the ones and twos.
Speaker B:AG.
Speaker A:The five minute warning.
Speaker A:Welcome to a brand new episode of five minute warning.
Speaker A:Once again, it's your man Ruben in the house today.
Speaker A:And of course, always it's my cousin AG.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker C:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:Ah, man, life is beautiful.
Speaker A:Life is beautiful.
Speaker A:Moby will be with us shortly.
Speaker A:He is coming back from hearts unknown, so he will be joining us a little bit later.
Speaker A:Wow, man.
Speaker A:Weekend's been crazy, you know.
Speaker A:WWE SummerSlam still going on.
Speaker A:Somehow they have found a way to make Roman Reigns watchable.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I ain't watching that dude wrestle because he's.
Speaker A:But it was actually watchable today.
Speaker A:Match still going on.
Speaker A:I don't know what the fuck's happening.
Speaker A:I guess I'll find out after the show because this is a little bit more just tiny bit more important.
Speaker A:So what's going on with you, AG?
Speaker A:How's life?
Speaker B:Chicken parm from scratch.
Speaker B:Everybody's got to do it.
Speaker B:Not bad.
Speaker A:I hear that.
Speaker A:What good shit.
Speaker B:All I need is one of those flat skillets so I can do the sauce and the cheese and just spread it over.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Otherwise pretty good.
Speaker B:Not bad.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:So I get an electric skillet.
Speaker B:No, because I have cast iron skillet that you put the sauce and the cheese on and then that melts.
Speaker B:And then you put that over the chicken as opposed to trying to melt it in the oven on broil because it will start to burn.
Speaker A:Chicken.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Now I hear that.
Speaker A:That's awesome, my friend.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker B:Got some.
Speaker B:Well, got some rangoons that are ready to go in the freezer.
Speaker B:Prepared those last night.
Speaker A:Nice, nice.
Speaker A:A lot of working that me.
Speaker A:Sounds like somebody had a good weekend now.
Speaker B:Not bad.
Speaker A:Cooking and prepar.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So you can eat the.
Speaker A:The goodness of.
Speaker A:Of your world during the week.
Speaker A:Hey, man, as I very much well know.
Speaker A:Look, man, food is better when it tastes good.
Speaker A:Because when it tastes like nobody wants to eat that.
Speaker B:Food is better when it tastes good.
Speaker B:Is that where it is?
Speaker A:Am I.
Speaker A:Am I wrong?
Speaker B:You are not.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:In a simplistic way, absolutely.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, I'm not sitting here and say people can't cook.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna sit here and say some people can't cook.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, some people can't cook.
Speaker B:Again, it's just like it's a want to thing.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, you have people that are talented to be wrong, but at.
Speaker A:The same time, it's like, bruh, read.
Speaker B:A book, read the recipe.
Speaker B:You'll be fine, I promise you.
Speaker A:Look, man, you didn't come out the womb with a damn spatula and shit in your hand.
Speaker A:You had to learn how to do it.
Speaker A:And those people who can cook well is because they like eating food and everybody wants to eat good.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:I mean, some of us don't do anything else but eat good food.
Speaker A:And there you go.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But we working on that.
Speaker A:We working on that.
Speaker A:So it's all good.
Speaker A:Let's go ahead and get into the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The topic of the day.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna lie, man.
Speaker A:I've really been wanting to ask this question.
Speaker A:This, this is something that's been on my.
Speaker A:On my head, in my heart, man.
Speaker B:What took you so long?
Speaker A:I mean, I don.
Speaker A:No excuses.
Speaker A:Because like, I see myself possibly could be in this position one day, but not the whole position, but part of it.
Speaker A:So here's a question.
Speaker A:Is it harder to be a biological father or to be a stepfather?
Speaker A:Now the question comes up because as everybody knows, I am 53 years old.
Speaker A:Now, I'm not saying I can't get it done, you know, with the right young lady and pop out one, maybe two.
Speaker A:It's really, really not probable.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Not as possible.
Speaker A:It's just not probable.
Speaker A:I agree.
Speaker A:So I hear.
Speaker A:I hear things.
Speaker A:And you know, a lot of women are.
Speaker A:Look, so.
Speaker A:Okay, some women are looking for a baby.
Speaker A:Dad, you know, you would Think they'd be looking for a mate.
Speaker A:But some women are looking for a baby daddy.
Speaker A:It's just what it is, you know?
Speaker A:So I, I thought about that question.
Speaker A:I was like, you know, Moby has some issues with it, so hopefully when he gets on, he'll be able to join us, express the differences he has.
Speaker A:But I get it, man.
Speaker A:Like you being a biological father now, if you there and, you know, you and your wife or the.
Speaker A:You and the mother of your children, you.
Speaker A:You marry the mother of your children, well, that's cool on the other side of the pillow, right?
Speaker A:You know, we got that down.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:This ain't about job now.
Speaker A:It's about those who ain't with their baby mamas for whatever reason, you know, for whatever.
Speaker A:I'm not sitting there talking.
Speaker A:I'm not sitting here, you know, killing people.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, hey, man, just didn't work out.
Speaker A:Then baby mama's like, well, shit, maybe I want some more kids.
Speaker A:Or maybe I want a provider.
Speaker A:And see, that's really what I want to talk about, right?
Speaker A:Because you see so many.
Speaker A:You see in here, maybe it's the top 5%.
Speaker A:Because, shit, man, maybe, you know, stepdaddies and shit are the coolest ever.
Speaker A:But if, you know, you.
Speaker A:You are dating a woman who has children and let's say they're under 18, because if they're over 18, that don't count, right?
Speaker A:Because they're.
Speaker A:They're technically grown adults.
Speaker A:And you don't necessarily have any type of financial burden with them usually.
Speaker A:I mean, now if you decide if you want to be stepdad and put them through college, that's all you playing.
Speaker C:Excuse me.
Speaker A:But for younger kids, you know, when does the stepfather become the main provider and the baby daddy becomes no provider?
Speaker A:Because you know, what if I do find some nice young lady and I could.
Speaker A:The aging is not a problem.
Speaker A:But she got like three kids, all under the age of 18, right?
Speaker A:So, not to mention if I.
Speaker A:If I fall in love with said.
Speaker A:Said woman, but I gotta fall in love with her kids too.
Speaker A:And then, you know, the other.
Speaker A:The other that happens.
Speaker A:Because I'll say it like that.
Speaker A:The that happens is, so if you pay for everything and the kids decide they don't want to respect you, I mean, you see, some.
Speaker A:Some moms like, you can't.
Speaker A:You can't punish my child.
Speaker A:Who pay for everything up in this.
Speaker A:Why can't I?
Speaker A:And so, so many problems, man.
Speaker A:So many problems.
Speaker A:And then, you know, you got baby daddy.
Speaker A:Hey, man, maybe baby D. Cool as man, maybe he just, it didn't work out.
Speaker A:He pays his child support, he picks up his kid every so often, yada, yada, yada, he does what he's supposed to do.
Speaker A:So you don't necessarily have those things to do with that child, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, that kid is going to respect you because you with his mom, hopefully.
Speaker A:But you know, once again it's different because dad's in the house.
Speaker A:Excuse me, Dad's in, in the, in the, in the party.
Speaker A:Because at this point in time, this goes from a two way to a three way, you know, because you know, if, if you got to be stepdaddy, there are some times where stepdaddy needs to do stepdaddy things when real daddy ain't there.
Speaker A:You would hope they would have a good relationship, but you know, that don't never happen because somebody's always mad about and, and whatever.
Speaker A:So I say all that Ag.
Speaker A:To be like, look, man, who really does have it harder, the dad who's not married to the woman that you're married to or the stepfather who married into this ready made family.
Speaker A:And next thing you know, instead of a picture of three, it's a picture of four.
Speaker A:Because real daddy gotta be around there sometime or real dad getting a little pissed off about that.
Speaker A:So talk to me Ag.
Speaker A:I kind of laid it out there.
Speaker A:What are your first thoughts?
Speaker B:My first thoughts, if you don't have.
Speaker B:If I feel like at your age, I'll start with you, then I'll be in general at your age.
Speaker B:If you, if you are with a woman that has kids that are under 18, that's not your situation.
Speaker B:It's too much trouble because number one, you don't have to like them at all.
Speaker B:And certainly they don't have to like, like you.
Speaker B:And if a baby daddy is active, like around physically, it's even worse because the woman that you choose, chances are she's not going to police the situation like she should because all of this is dependent on her.
Speaker B:And if she doesn't have a level of maturation that will allow you to exist the way you should, it's going to be bad.
Speaker B:It's going to be bad 100% of the time.
Speaker A:Gotcha.
Speaker B:If I'm your age, I'm not doing that.
Speaker A:Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker A:Now, about other people, what do you feel like is.
Speaker A:I mean, because you're married and your wife has older children.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So technically, and we've gone back and forth, you know, technically you're not really a stepfather because they grown.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm Nothing.
Speaker A:Ye.
Speaker A:You're just a woman who's with the dude who's with their parent, their mom.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker B:Couldn't agree more.
Speaker A:Cool, cool, cool.
Speaker A:So for you, you didn't really have to go through any of that because it's like.
Speaker B:And then this was with her dad is.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I didn't have to go through anything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's awesome.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Why do you think?
Speaker A:Why do you think?
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:Let me.
Speaker A:Let me rephrase this.
Speaker A:Do you think the situation is more based.
Speaker A:From your answer, it sounds like you think it's based on how the woman is conducting traffic in the situation.
Speaker A:It's really going to be up to her regardless.
Speaker A:Because if she's not, you know, whistling people to come through and telling people to stop and bringing another one over, then she's gonna get chaotic like a motherfucker.
Speaker A:Is that pretty much what you're saying?
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker B:Because if she is handling her business, the baby daddy will never get out of.
Speaker B:Especially if he's not paying anything.
Speaker A:Man, don't even start on that.
Speaker A:But, but, yeah, like.
Speaker A:So I've been, you know, on my.
Speaker A:First of all, my shit's weird.
Speaker A:I think I've said this before.
Speaker A:Like, there's this one dude who, you know, baby daddy.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:I mean, excuse me.
Speaker A:I'm sor.
Speaker A:You know, stepdaddy.
Speaker A:And the situation was, I guess the real father tried to come back in the picture when she was graduating.
Speaker A:And then what they wanted to do is bring real dad to graduation, but the cost of that was stepdad's ticket.
Speaker A:So what stepdad did, it was like, oh, it's like this, all right.
Speaker A:I'm cutting her off completely.
Speaker A:She's 18.
Speaker A:You know, she can do what she wants.
Speaker A:Well, he cut her off.
Speaker A:Cut the daughter off because his daughter made a decision that she wanted her real father there instead of her stepfather there, the man who's been taking care of her for the last however many years.
Speaker A:First of all, my opinion is, yo, that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That is trash.
Speaker A:That is 100% trash.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Az, my question to you is, do you think he was wrong?
Speaker A:For what?
Speaker B:Well, actually, it doesn't matter because she's 18.
Speaker B:And even if she wasn't 18, it's like she showed him his value since he ain't worth nothing then.
Speaker B:Apparently you can't get nothing, right?
Speaker B:If you don't have value, how can you get value from it?
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:So, okay, do you.
Speaker B:It's like Target.
Speaker B:It's just like Target, man.
Speaker B:It's just like when black people and brown people stop going for a minute.
Speaker B:The shock for me was that mainstream America didn't fill the gap.
Speaker B:Target made a decision.
Speaker B:Now they out back.
Speaker B:So the same thing here, it's just like, I respect your decision.
Speaker B:Here's the response.
Speaker B:Let's not do this racist thing where you can say all kinds of things about me and then when I respond to you, you the victim.
Speaker B:No, you're not the victim.
Speaker B:You grown.
Speaker B:But the idea.
Speaker B:Here I go again.
Speaker B:The idea that the mom allowed it to happen says a lot about her.
Speaker A:Yeah, mom was out of line, but.
Speaker B:She can do what she wants to do also.
Speaker B:Now if this cost her marriage, okay?
Speaker A:And it did.
Speaker B:Well, see, there it is.
Speaker A:Old dude left, took all his money.
Speaker A:I think he left at a house though.
Speaker A:He was like, man, keep damn house.
Speaker A:I'm good.
Speaker A:But you, we.
Speaker A:We about to get this divorce and they ain't got no kids together.
Speaker A:So he was like open and shut.
Speaker A:Yeah, we'll go ahead and get this quick divor, then we can move on.
Speaker A:We can move on separately.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And you're right, man, it's just as much as.
Speaker A:As much as some women be dropping the tears, yo, man, they're the ones sometimes who are doing the dirt always.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It is hard for, you know, as a man.
Speaker A:What do you do with that?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Because you.
Speaker A:What you don't want to do do is come off looking like ultra aggressive.
Speaker A:Because, like, well, he.
Speaker A:He came at me and Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:Yes, bro.
Speaker A:I mean, nobody came at your ass.
Speaker A:And that's why he did all his conversation through the phone.
Speaker A:And he was like, nah, we'll just go ahead and end everything right now.
Speaker A:We good?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Yeah, don't worry about.
Speaker A:I mean, her rent, she gotta come up with that.
Speaker A:You know, her school, she gotta come up with that.
Speaker A:I was like, cold blooded.
Speaker A:He's not wrong.
Speaker B:Is it cold blooded, though?
Speaker B:Well, I thought it was just.
Speaker B:I just thought it was return volley.
Speaker B:That's what I thought it was.
Speaker B:Cause I thought what they did together, what they did together was cold blooded.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Essentially, this guy was an ATM machine.
Speaker B:There's no way in the world they respect him now.
Speaker B:Men don't get respect to start with, but this was extra.
Speaker A:Oh, they on purpose, not gave him shit.
Speaker B:So it's all good.
Speaker B:Whatever he did, you know, up to calling them out their name and putting his hands on them is.
Speaker B:Is fair game.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So yeah, man, like, he.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker A:He rolled out, got a divorce.
Speaker A:I mean, wife still be wife slash soon to be ex wife.
Speaker A:Still be trying to call.
Speaker A:We can make this work.
Speaker B:No, we can't.
Speaker A:Nah.
Speaker A:Because, man, when people show you who.
Speaker B:They are, believe them.
Speaker A:You gotta see that for what it is, you know?
Speaker A:And as a man, we gotta make sure we just not.
Speaker A:Look, I can say this because I am a single man, and I can say this because at this moment in time, I ain't got shit to lose.
Speaker A:However, yo, man, there are a whole lot of other women out in this bitch.
Speaker A:Like, you know, that one is not for you.
Speaker A:And hey, man, if she got you, she got you, right?
Speaker A:All you got to do is suck, man.
Speaker A:We got a man got a pride problem, bro.
Speaker A:We got a pride problem.
Speaker A:Because when our pride gets hurt, it's like, I'm gonna get that chick.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get up for everything.
Speaker A:You know, the best thing sometimes is just to leave silence is some of the best get back ever, you know?
Speaker A:Because once again, I'm not sitting here saying I'm not on a women bashing thing.
Speaker A:So before everybody start, you know, bashing women.
Speaker A:Nah, I call it like I see it.
Speaker A:What are we doing?
Speaker A:So, like, one of my boys, he's got a son, man.
Speaker A:And, yeah, his.
Speaker A:You know, his.
Speaker A:His baby mama, for whatever reason, I don't know the history, but couldn't take care of him, didn't want to take care of him, so he raised him, you know, by himself, you know, everything was reversed, man.
Speaker A:She got him, like, every, you know, one weekend a month or some, like.
Speaker A:And so when he ended up getting married, you know, she had to be step.
Speaker A:She had to be stepmom.
Speaker A:But she also real.
Speaker A:I'll give her props.
Speaker A:She also realized that, hey, man, this ain't my kid.
Speaker A:And I ain't really got no, you know, no things.
Speaker A:Nothing I can really do to him, nor will I ever do that to him.
Speaker A:Which was smart, right?
Speaker A:She ran everything through her.
Speaker A:Through her husband.
Speaker A:Husband.
Speaker A:Hey, just to let you know, this happened, even though it might have seemed like her snitching.
Speaker A:Yo, man, she was just like, what I'm not gonna do is be that person.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And basically just like, you know, tell him yes or no, he can't do this, can't do that, call your daddy.
Speaker A:And then his daddy said yes or no or whatever.
Speaker A:I thought that worked pretty well for them.
Speaker A:So just to see a different length.
Speaker A:But another question I had that was kind of built into that question, Ag was in all reality, what would be.
Speaker A:Because, like I said, I'm 53 I mean, you pretty much said earlier that Reuben, you really shouldn't be messing with what women got kids like that.
Speaker A:Because that ain't the move for you.
Speaker A:Now it's like dope.
Speaker A:How low should I go in your opinion, age wise or does or do the kids situation matter?
Speaker A:Like I have an idea, but also I'm curious of what your idea is.
Speaker B:Well, you tell me what your idea is.
Speaker B:I'm curious.
Speaker A:So like I have nieces.
Speaker A:I believe my oldest niece is like 33.
Speaker A:So one thing I'm never gonna do.
Speaker B:Your oldest?
Speaker A:Yes, like 33, I think I ain't going below that because the last thing I'm gonna do is bring some young ass girl to my folks into the family.
Speaker A:And my niece is older, man, what do I look like a.
Speaker A:A dirty old man or what?
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:And you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, but still, man, cuz if I'm going that young, then we have a kiss.
Speaker B:Well, that all depends on if.
Speaker B:If that's what actually, you know what you want.
Speaker B:If you want kids, then, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker A:I don't have a choice.
Speaker A:I'm looking at, my thoughts are like 35, 37.
Speaker A:And that's if I'm looking at children having children.
Speaker B:But see, that's the thing, man.
Speaker B:You're not.
Speaker B:Okay, here's the conundrum that you presented to me.
Speaker B:Yep, you're young enough to date somebody that young.
Speaker B:But you're old enough to not be pliable to the things that someone that young will put you through.
Speaker A:That's very possible.
Speaker B:And you can't keep up sexually either.
Speaker B:You're talking about somebody that's going into their sexual prime.
Speaker B:You on your declaration climb unless you, you know, I hope you, hopefully you don't have heart problems.
Speaker B:So you can take a lot of ag or whatever it is, but you can't keep up.
Speaker B:And that matters.
Speaker B:Again, you're talking about a human being that's going into their sexual prime when you're in your 30s or 40s as a woman, man, come on.
Speaker B:So again, is you're in a.
Speaker B:If we're talking about this like we are now, you are definitely in a precarious situation.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:There's no real answer.
Speaker B:I think that you should stick with somebody your age.
Speaker B:Somebody your age has kids, it doesn't matter because the chances are they are at least 25.
Speaker B:And you don't, you don't have time for the.
Speaker B:Those issues, bro.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:You just don't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's, you know, that what's up man?
Speaker C:Going on.
Speaker B:So for me that's the answer is.
Speaker B:It's like if you.
Speaker B:Cuz see, it's kind of funny because you're asking how young of a woman that you should date with respect to kids.
Speaker B:But then there's all the other social cues in there.
Speaker B:But honestly man, knowing I have gotten to know you so much better than I ever did when we were kids or even adults.
Speaker B:Because I talk to you every week and I'm telling you, no, you don't have it in you.
Speaker B:You just don't.
Speaker B:And that's a, that's not an attack on your character.
Speaker A:Oh, I know.
Speaker B:But there are things that I cannot deal with at my age that I could deal with all the time.
Speaker B:When I was 30, I shouldn't have had to deal with it.
Speaker B:I should have chose not to.
Speaker B:But I had that kind of stamina sexually.
Speaker B:I could go all day if I wanted to.
Speaker B:I wasn't really interested in sex like that.
Speaker B:But it's like if I had to, it's on.
Speaker B:But at this age, no, there's no way, way that I could legitimately date somebody that's in their 30s or 40s.
Speaker B:I don't have it in me.
Speaker B:I don't have it in me spiritually, mentally, my patience is lower.
Speaker B:I know exactly what I want.
Speaker B:I know exactly what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker B:And most women for real can't provide that.
Speaker B:They're, they're narcissists.
Speaker B:They're too into themselves and what they want and what they can get out of you.
Speaker B:And I'm telling you, unless you are patient enough to find a very old soul in that 33 year old body.
Speaker B:Body, you're not going to be able to do it.
Speaker B:You're just not.
Speaker B:So that is my opinion on all this.
Speaker B:And when I say, and when I'm talking to you, I'm talking to anybody who would ask, that's our age.
Speaker B:So yeah, man, if that's what you're asking me, that's my answer.
Speaker B:Get somebody your own age.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker B:I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm a little biased because I think older women are hot.
Speaker B:So that's always been a thing for me.
Speaker A:But for real, I don't disagree.
Speaker B:Oh, most some people do.
Speaker B:You know why I was putting that out there?
Speaker B:But at the same time it's like, bruh, based on what we're talking about, about kids and all, you're asking someone who has two layers of self interest to be selfless for you.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Because when I say two layers of self interest.
Speaker B:I mean, she has her own self interest, and she has the interest of her child, which are her self interest.
Speaker B:And all of it's going at one time, bruh.
Speaker B:Yeah, you can't deal with that.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker B:You're expect the average woman to be able to police herself and everything around her.
Speaker B:So everything is respecting you based on what role you've taken on.
Speaker B:No, no, most women can't get it done.
Speaker B:In fact, handful of women out of all the women in the world can get that done.
Speaker B:Every.
Speaker B:Everything else that you see in the world is a dude putting up with it, plain and simple.
Speaker B:So I suggest you find somebody that's plus 45, preferably closer to 50 in the plus 45 rang, and y' all have a nice life.
Speaker A:Which, I mean, to be honest, I'm really down for that.
Speaker A:Like, I've always, you know, part of me has always thought, yeah, I'm gonna end up.
Speaker A:I'm gonna end up with some divorced woman because, you know, have some kids, and then the man's gonna be like, all right, kids are raised.
Speaker A:I'm out, bitch.
Speaker A:Like, and stuff like that.
Speaker A:That's pretty much what I feel like I'm gonna end up with, and I will.
Speaker A:I'm very fine with that.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So, yeah, Moby, just to catch you up, we did talk about the question.
Speaker A:So since you weren't here for that, what is your opinion about who's who?
Speaker A:Who has to work harder, the biological father or the stepfather?
Speaker C:All right, I'm going to try to answer your question.
Speaker C:Question.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But I would like to get my preconceived conditions with the question out the way earlier.
Speaker C:I think it's a dumbass question.
Speaker C:And the reason I think it's a dumbass question is because it's all going to be subjective to the situation.
Speaker C:I guess I could say, hypothetically, somebody is going to have to do things that are different.
Speaker C:But, I mean, truth of the matter is, if somebody's truly taking on the role of, you know, being father, be it, you know, their kid biologically or stepfather, the job's the job.
Speaker C:I mean, there is no work harder.
Speaker C:The job is the job.
Speaker C:I can say there's some absolute negatives to being a stepfather, and I would say the negative outweigh from a stepfather point of view because essentially you're going to be asked to have all the responsibility with none of the actual rights.
Speaker C:And so it's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker C:Going to be a whole unique set of, you know, situations that Come with it.
Speaker C:I mean, because I can't imagine, as a stepfather, trying to.
Speaker C:To, you know, raise accountability and consequences.
Speaker C:When there's a woman saying, that's not your role yet.
Speaker C:When it's time to pay for something or provide shelter or food, they're gonna say, but you're the man.
Speaker C:So once again, completely different set of, like, obstacles on the side, but the job's the job.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't think that, like, I.
Speaker C:Me and you both know people who do the stepfather thing.
Speaker C:And like, my boy who does the stepfather role, he don't do nothing no different than me.
Speaker C:The job is the job.
Speaker C:The only difference is if at any point in time she decided, hey, you can't do that.
Speaker C:He really ain't got a leg to stand on.
Speaker C:But realistically, in this day and age, neither does the biological father.
Speaker C:Because it's so easy for a woman to just go to any court system and say, hey, I only think he should be able to see the kid every other weekend.
Speaker C:And no court generally fights it, no matter how hard the guy tries to fight it.
Speaker C:So, I mean, so that.
Speaker C:I didn't mean to say the question is stupid.
Speaker C:I just mean on the surface level, the jobs, that job, like, I don't think.
Speaker C:I don't think I can look at a stepfather and go, my job as an actual father is more difficult.
Speaker C:And I don't think he can look at me and say, his job is more difficult.
Speaker C:We have a different set of, like, extenuating circumstances.
Speaker C:We have obstacles that are different.
Speaker C:We have different challenges.
Speaker C:But the job's the job, man.
Speaker C:At the end of the day, the job's a job.
Speaker A:So would you consider the job equal?
Speaker A:Like, if you put them together, are we talking they're equal, Equal importance, equal risk?
Speaker C:No, it's never going to be equal risk, and the risk is going to be subjective.
Speaker C:Once again, the stepfather's risk is.
Speaker C:You can put in all of this, these resources, emotional attachment and all these things, only for somebody to be like, hey, it's no longer your job and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker C:But as a biological father, you really have those same risks, too.
Speaker C:Because just as I've stated earlier, at any point in time, she can say anything and you don't, or your life is very, very challenging to actually be a parental figure.
Speaker C:So, no, I don't.
Speaker C:I don't think anybody's job is more difficult.
Speaker C:Difficult, more important, the job is the job.
Speaker C:Like if you work at McDonald's and you do fries and you work at Burger King and you do fries, you're still doing fries.
Speaker C:The job is the job.
Speaker B:I hear what you're saying, but being on the other side, I work at McDonald's with a burger King uniform on.
Speaker B:It's a little weird.
Speaker C:Once again, I said different challenges, but he's asking me about the challenge job.
Speaker C:The job is still the job.
Speaker B:I hear how, I hear how you're answering it, but I think for me when I hear it, I'm like,.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:Have a lot more power because you are you.
Speaker C:Oh, once again, different.
Speaker C:Different challenges.
Speaker C:Once again, different.
Speaker B:You're saying it like it's a challenge.
Speaker B:That's, that's fundamental to me because I can't, I can't look at your daughters and say, hey, what are you doing?
Speaker B:Like you can, even if you weren't in the house and I'm married to winner and I say something, it's gonna be like she trippin where you come in on the phone and it's like, hey, that.
Speaker B:And plus everything you said about the drop of a hat from a woman, it's like that becomes extra because like, well, Ruben, you weren't here, but Ruben was talking about a situation where you have put in a lot of work.
Speaker B:Again, like you were saying the job is the job, but in an instant all of that was washed away from a dude that wasn't even there.
Speaker B:That, that's fundamental to me.
Speaker C:It absolutely is fundamental.
Speaker C:But that same scenario you described, I know firsthand a biological father who has a kid with his, the mom, and she's married.
Speaker C:And when that stepfather says something, the father couldn't call and say, you can't because all she said was, I have full custody of the child.
Speaker C:You have no rights.
Speaker C:And just like that, it was over with.
Speaker C:Once again, different challenges.
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:The, the idea of power, influence and influence is definitely more prevalent in biological.
Speaker C:However, all it takes is one set of circumstances to change and introduce a new challenge.
Speaker C:So, so you're right.
Speaker C:There are some fundamental power structure dynamics that are different.
Speaker C:And I will full fledged that.
Speaker C:But once again he says, whose job is more difficult?
Speaker C:And I'm telling you, the job is the job.
Speaker C:It's a thankless job.
Speaker C:And it's a job that if you don't do right, you're a piece of shit.
Speaker C:And no matter how hard you're trying, you're not doing enough.
Speaker C:That's the job.
Speaker B:And Reuben, that, that whole thing, both of us are taking me back to what really makes this work.
Speaker B:And that's the woman in absolutely that's what I said.
Speaker C:The job's the job.
Speaker B:Yeah, because we were saying that before you got on.
Speaker B:And I'm telling you, Reuben, if you're going to do this, the kids don't matter, the dad doesn't matter, or baby daddy doesn't matter.
Speaker B:It matters that you vet the woman in question.
Speaker B:Because if she gets it wrong or she is a narcissist, which a lot of women are, and it's all about her and what her interests are, everything that Mo and I are talking about will absolutely come true.
Speaker B:And you will be a miserable sir, you will be a miserable person because you will be putting out effort that is, is less than thankless because Mo is.
Speaker B:Mo situation is thankless.
Speaker B:But a step.
Speaker B:A stepfather, bruh.
Speaker C:Yeah, once again, it, it, it's less.
Speaker B:Than, than it really is less than because they, they feel like you owe them and they don't respect you at all, no matter what happens or what you say.
Speaker B:And they can still play victim and call you everything they always wanted to call you.
Speaker B:And if their mom allows that, that's exactly who you are.
Speaker B:So I'm telling you, if I were you, since you were asking me, I am not getting married to anybody that's 45 or below because I want her kids to be gone.
Speaker C:See, that's a whole different question.
Speaker C:If you're like, hey, would you, which would you rather sign for?
Speaker C:Stepfather or actual father?
Speaker C:That's a whole different question because I would never want to voluntarily sign up for your stepfather.
Speaker C:And that's, and that's not saying that nobody should want to be with the single mom.
Speaker C:Not saying that at all.
Speaker C:I'm simply saying if you are asking me which situation I would rather sign up for, like me having actual kids with this person, them kids being mine or be being stepfather.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I would never voluntarily sign up to be a stepfather.
Speaker C:It's not.
Speaker C:Now the crazy thing about that is younger me, before I had kids of my own, didn't necessarily think that way because I, I thought more on, along the lines, the job is the job.
Speaker C:But just like I used that example about McDonald's or Burger Kings, hey, if one place gives me better hours and the other place gives me, and it gives me better benefits and it's a much better working environment, then yeah, the job, still the job.
Speaker C:But I'd rather be the one that get treated better.
Speaker C:And that's, that's just what it is.
Speaker C:And if, if women think that somehow that means I'm devaluing them as like a mom, it's like, no, if you saw identicals me's and.
Speaker C:And one of us worked at the gas station and one of us was a millionaire, which one are you gonna go to who are essentially the same person, but you're gonna go to the one that feels like you'd be in a better position.
Speaker C:And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:Now, I'm not saying that as a guy, if you're dating someone with kids, you are taking that risk on your own.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You are going into that on your own.
Speaker C:And if.
Speaker C:If she, you know, once again, just like Adri said, it really comes back to the woman because once again, what like Von.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:Our boy who is.
Speaker C:Is clearly doing the stepfather role, she 100% is game.
Speaker C:Like, there is no.
Speaker C:Like, if you were from the outside looking in, you would never know that those weren't his kids.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And it's not even just like he.
Speaker C:She makes the kids do something.
Speaker C:It's a respect for thing.
Speaker C:It's an understanding that, hey, he loves me and he has their best interests in mind as well.
Speaker C:So if he is doing anything towards them, I trust him.
Speaker C:And he is.
Speaker C:He looks at the kids as an extension of me.
Speaker C:So if I don't think he would hurt me, I don't think he would hurt them.
Speaker C:Now, once again, I understand how difficult it is to get to that because I don't know.
Speaker C:You know, as much as.
Speaker C:As much as, you know, it's easy for us to say.
Speaker C:You know, women bring in their own ideas of what's going on.
Speaker C:There is an actual truth that we don't know what that previous father, previous relationship actually was like.
Speaker C:If.
Speaker C:If she actually is a survivor of a really bad relationship and the kids were involved too, she may be a little bit more protective of.
Speaker C:Of letting you into that bubble, but once again, that's a risk you take when you date her.
Speaker C:And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker C:I'm just.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:That's not.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:That's not for you.
Speaker C:Then don't.
Speaker C:Don't sign up for the job.
Speaker C:But just like I keep coming back to, the job is still the job.
Speaker C:If you're going into the job hoping that somebody's gonna salute you or tell you you're doing a good job, ain't nobody gonna make no song about you.
Speaker C:Those are all reserved.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:When that kid does something great, ain't nobody gonna say, hi, dad.
Speaker C:Nobody gonna do any of that.
Speaker C:It's like, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker C:That's not your job, man.
Speaker C:That's not your role.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I mean, hey, man, sounds good to me.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:And like I was telling Ag, man, it's just a question that I've had on my mind for a little bit because like, like, I'm in this, I mean, right now, obviously I'm 53, so, you know, do I want to venture down baby road or do I want to venture down kids are grown mode, and then I can just enjoy my time with her instead of, you know, messing around and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe getting caught up in the other stuff.
Speaker A:So though, I mean, I, I, I.
Speaker C:Think the, I think I'm kind of in alignment with Ag.
Speaker C:Like, you get a woman in that sweet spot of the age where them kids is grown now, and now you might be able to get the extra perks, which is her kids start having kids and now you are de facto grandparent, and that's got to be pretty cool.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You the de facto grandparent,.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker A:Can you speak on that?
Speaker B:It's not bad.
Speaker B:I mean, because I think the thing is, that's where the, the kids, which are the parents are bypassed because to the grandkid, you're the guy.
Speaker B:Like in my situation, his real grandfather's not, he's, he's another state.
Speaker B:So when he comes over, or we were over there or whatever, he's the guy.
Speaker B:He's the guy he sees the most.
Speaker B:And don't get me wrong, his real grandfather is very present.
Speaker B:But at the same time, it's just like what the kids think of me is whatever.
Speaker B:It doesn't matter to him.
Speaker B:It's like, hey, they call me Bubba.
Speaker B:So it's like, hey, that's Bubba.
Speaker B:That's all they care about.
Speaker B:That's all they care about.
Speaker B:What his dad thinks of me is irrespective of what I just said.
Speaker B:It's like he cannot stand me.
Speaker B:He could, like, whatever.
Speaker B:And it's like he thinks of me like, that's my grandfather.
Speaker B:That's what we're doing.
Speaker B:It's the purest relationship with respect to what we're talking about.
Speaker B:So in that way, it's absolutely a good time.
Speaker B:Because he doesn't treat me any different than he treats his real grandfather.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:And it's pure.
Speaker B:It's not like he's trying to do anything.
Speaker B:It's pure.
Speaker A:How old is he?
Speaker B:Four?
Speaker B:Two.
Speaker B:What I'm saying, pure.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're just happy to be happy and sad to be sad.
Speaker B:Cuz kids at that age, they just like that they got 50 grandparents.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hell yeah.
Speaker B:No presents for me.
Speaker B:So, hey, when this.
Speaker C:When I see this person, I get.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:I might get.
Speaker A:I might get a quarter.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Nikki.
Speaker A:Hit us up.
Speaker A:Like, maybe it's just.
Speaker A:Just me, but I shout out my dad more than my mom.
Speaker B:Oh, it's just you.
Speaker B:It's just you.
Speaker C:I'mma disagree.
Speaker C:It's not just her, but what we're talking about, Ag, is the societal celebration.
Speaker C:I. I do know a lot of women that really, really got great relationship with a dad or stepdad, and they.
Speaker C:They have no problem saying their daddy's girl.
Speaker C:All the.
Speaker C:All the things.
Speaker C:But societally, most people are always thinking about the mom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or wait a minute.
Speaker B:I agree with that.
Speaker B:Or is it just the men that always shout out the mom?
Speaker B:Like the boys always shouting out the mom?
Speaker C:I don't know, man.
Speaker C:As somebody who's watched a decent amount of women's college basketball, those ladies be saying mom, too.
Speaker C:Those ladies be saying mom, too.
Speaker A:I mean, so as she was saying, she isn't.
Speaker A:He isn't even her biological.
Speaker A:But that makes him even more special.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, I agree.
Speaker B:I agree wholeheartedly of that.
Speaker B:That's why I said it was just.
Speaker C:I guess what I'm saying is she.
Speaker C:She's not the minority in that.
Speaker C:Like, I do believe that a lot of women are like that.
Speaker C:I just think societally, it doesn't get celebrated like that.
Speaker A:I mean, there's been a. I would probably say since Kobe Bryant passed away and stuff, there's been a huge, big emphasis on the girl dad.
Speaker A:So, you know, I see how that's happening.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:Like, because.
Speaker A:Because in one way, I mean, how many you got that.
Speaker A:I mean, everybody in that grandma has made a song about their mama, you know, from the.
Speaker A:From boys to men to, you know, freaking Tupac Secure.
Speaker A:So it doesn't matter where you at.
Speaker A:It is all about mama.
Speaker A:But then, of course, even though that song was funny, you had the one dude make the stepdad a. I mean, it was kind of funny, but I think he was coming from a different place, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't hear a lot of people shouting out, hi, dad.
Speaker A:At least not first or.
Speaker C:Well, and.
Speaker C:And that is.
Speaker C:I'm gonna say as.
Speaker C:As, you know, father on.
Speaker C:On the show, I'm gonna say that is by design, because, you know, who's also making sure them kids don't say dad first.
Speaker C:The dad.
Speaker C:Because the dad knows.
Speaker A:Hey, hey, you.
Speaker C:You better make her feel good, because if you don't make her feel good, she gonna make me feel miserable.
Speaker C:So you.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker C:You better shout her out just like Chris Rock said.
Speaker C:Hey, did you thank your mom for this?
Speaker B:Fool?
Speaker C:You tell him, hey, everybody, that is real, man.
Speaker C:You better have your kids out here giving the mom all the compliments in the world, 100%.
Speaker C:I would be mad as hell if Cadence and Kira basically came out there and was like, I just want to thank dad for everything.
Speaker C:You better say mom and dad, and mom better always be first.
Speaker C:You ain't about to make my life miserable just because you want to get me some flowers.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:Nobody give a them flowers.
Speaker C:I'm trying to have a good night's sleep.
Speaker B:Are you hearing how much power women have, Sir?
Speaker B:Are you hearing what he's saying?
Speaker B:It's like, because to me, that's the.
Speaker B:The idea that we have to.
Speaker B:To, I'll say, promote women so hard just to.
Speaker B:Just to have the.
Speaker B:Just the illusion of any piece lets you know, man, you don't mean anything.
Speaker B:You don't mean anything if you're not paying a bill.
Speaker B:You just don't.
Speaker B:Just let you know, man.
Speaker B:I mean, if you've ever thought.
Speaker B:If you've ever thought about how much energy a man has to put into a woman that he will never receive back and is actually clowned for having feelings about.
Speaker B:About it, bruh, that lets you know who you're dealing with.
Speaker B:So, again, whatever you do, you need to vet this chick like the CIA, sir, I'm telling you, because if you don't, the world of hurt that I'm talking about is normal.
Speaker B:The world of hurt that Mo is talking about is normal.
Speaker B:We're built for that.
Speaker B:But now you trying to put some extra stuff on you, man.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, I told you all the time, good choices is a man's superpower.
Speaker B:Just so you know.
Speaker C:Just know, one way or another, you are the provider.
Speaker C:And provider doesn't always mean financial, but you better be providing something.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And if.
Speaker C:If you're not willing to be a provider without any of the promotion, celebration, benefits, or even an occasional high five or reach around, if you're not willing to do all that, then you don't.
Speaker A:Need to be with nobody.
Speaker B:You need to be single 100%.
Speaker C:You need to be single.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't see.
Speaker A:I don't see, like, me not being this.
Speaker A:Me being this long.
Speaker A:I. I do realize that it is all about the woman.
Speaker A:You know, we're just here to find some happiness where we can.
Speaker C:Poor child.
Speaker C:You really think happiness has anything to.
Speaker C:To do with you?
Speaker A:I just don't know.
Speaker A:I just say.
Speaker C:I'm just saying the only way in a relationship as a guy you can ever feel any semblance of happiness is if you attach your happiness based on are other people happy?
Speaker C:If you are out here, if you out here solo happy in it, that is.
Speaker C:That is a strictly penis listen behavior.
Speaker C:You cannot have a penis and be out here solo happy.
Speaker C:And that's the.
Speaker C:The only time you can solo happy is if you're masturbate.
Speaker C:That's the only male solo happiness that can happen.
Speaker C:Relationship.
Speaker A:Well, all right.
Speaker B:Well, there's my intro.
Speaker B:Thank you Mo.
Speaker B:Appreciate you.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:It's so true though.
Speaker A:So true.
Speaker A:And Nikki just said lies.
Speaker B:Look, Nikki's not very honest with herself.
Speaker B:You be.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker C:She might be honest with herself.
Speaker C:Cuz ag.
Speaker C:It's all about pers, man.
Speaker C:And if you've only lived a life where the perspective is your happiness matters, then that is.
Speaker C:That is an actual real way to approach things.
Speaker C:But all three of us have had tremendous amount of life examples to let you know that your happiness means nothing in the greater scheme of things.
Speaker C:Therefore, at some point in time, you stop ultimately, ultimately seeking solo happiness and you start looking for things that you can provide to make people happy.
Speaker C:Because that's how you feel happy about yourself.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker A:Nikki tells me not to listen to that.
Speaker B:You don't have to, but you'll be.
Speaker B:You'll be.
Speaker B:You'll.
Speaker B:You'll come back.
Speaker A:Oh, oh.
Speaker B:And when you do, you'll be a broken man.
Speaker B:You'll be a broken man when you come back.
Speaker A:Hold on, man.
Speaker A:What we not doing?
Speaker A:You know I appreciate Nikki, but I ain't crazy.
Speaker A:Like I understand how this shit work.
Speaker A:Even though I've been.
Speaker A:I'm 53, I've been on the planet and been in enough relationships to understand my happiness.
Speaker A:Don't mean unless she happy and then still don't mean it is just like I gotta slide in happiness and hell if I'm too happy, then she gonna find a way to not make me happy.
Speaker A:Just because I've seen that on a regular effing basis.
Speaker A:And sometimes it's not.
Speaker C:It's not even that she gonna not want you to be happy happy.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:It's happiness for guys is achieved through selflessness.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That is the best way for us to achieve happiness.
Speaker C:Now when we're young and selfish.
Speaker C:That's why we mess up.
Speaker C:Because we.
Speaker C:We out here trying to make ourselves happy.
Speaker C:When we get smarter and realize that the.
Speaker C:The things that make us the happiest is when we are selfless, because that's when we are allowed to have a little bit of space where we can, you know, be happy and peaceful.
Speaker C:That that's what happens.
Speaker C:But it's not that we're saying that guys are miserable.
Speaker C:Like, no, we're simply saying you can't look for happiness, like, as your primary function.
Speaker C:That's just not how.
Speaker C:That's not a good.
Speaker C:That's not a successful way to go through life as a male, is it?
Speaker C:To constantly be looking for your own happiness?
Speaker C:Because when you do do that, you become all those punk ass that the women talk about all the time when they say, these dudes ain't no.
Speaker C:You messed around and found some dudes that was trying to be happy, and you was like, I don't like the way this feels.
Speaker C:This guy here trying to be happy without me.
Speaker C:And that's what it is.
Speaker C:It's not being happy being like, my wife is thrilled when I'm happy with her.
Speaker C:She'll never admit it, but if she walks in the house and I'm smiling and I'm sitting on the couch, there's nothing going on, but I just look like, hey, man, I've had to bet the first thing she's gonna say, what you're smiling about?
Speaker C:And that's not a genuine question of like, hey, I want to know what you're smiling about so I can celebrate with you.
Speaker C:It's an investigative question, like, why the you so happy?
Speaker C:And I'm not here.
Speaker A:Nikki says be a therapist to join the conversation.
Speaker A:Are we saying female therapist?
Speaker B:It's gonna have to be, because if it's a male therapist, she'll be like, yeah, I'm right with him, I think.
Speaker C:I mean, look, I am not a therapist.
Speaker C:I did go to school for it, but I.
Speaker A:Not one.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I'm pretty sure that a lot of things that I'm spilling are my opinion.
Speaker C:However, I'm pretty sure that most.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker C:If the majority of men out here feel the way I feel, and I feel like they do, then you gonna trust me or you lying ass therapist.
Speaker C:That's what.
Speaker C:Because the therapist job is to keep you coming back so you can keep paying them.
Speaker C:And you know what does that.
Speaker C:Hey, man, you ain't the problem.
Speaker C:They are.
Speaker C:Everybody else is the problem.
Speaker A:Oh, she did say either male or female is fine.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Because what I'm.
Speaker C:What I'm saying is not a fact.
Speaker C:Everything I'm saying is.
Speaker C:Is pure feeling.
Speaker C:And I. I'll be the first to say that, but I feel like most guys feel exactly like I feel, so.
Speaker A:But is that your experience?
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker C:It's absolutely my experience.
Speaker C:But I. I understand everybody experiences different things, so we all experience different things.
Speaker C:And the majority of male comes back to the same feeling that I'm having.
Speaker C:I feel like there's got to be something.
Speaker C:Something to that.
Speaker C:Like, I just, not an expert, feel like there's got to be something to that.
Speaker C:I'm just saying we've talked about it.
Speaker C:Like, I'm like, hey, ladies, I challenge you.
Speaker C:Let your man go out, have a good time.
Speaker C:And I guarantee you when he comes back and you ask him how he was, he is never going to tell you how great of a time it was.
Speaker C:He's always going to say, it was all right, it was okay, that's fair.
Speaker C:You know why?
Speaker C:Because he has learned through.
Speaker C:Through experience.
Speaker C:I can't tell this chick that I had a great time without her.
Speaker C:No, not.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker C:But a guy, when he asked you, did you have a good time?
Speaker C:You don't need to know all the details because you.
Speaker C:Y' all give way too many details on the story.
Speaker C:A simple, yeah, we had a great time will suffice.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker C:We're good on that.
Speaker C:Like, I don't need to know the background, even know what she was wearing.
Speaker C:I don't even know what the DJ was playing.
Speaker C:I don't even know none of that.
Speaker C:You had a good time.
Speaker C:Great.
Speaker C:I'm glad y' all had a good time, and I'm good.
Speaker C:But your man ain't never gonna say that.
Speaker C:Your man is never gonna come home and be like, man, that was awesome.
Speaker C:Like, one of the best nights I didn't had a long time.
Speaker C:He is not gonna say that because.
Speaker C:Not if he's smart, because he's not about to set himself up for that.
Speaker C:Because even.
Speaker C:Even if you don't get mad right then at him.
Speaker C:Oh, the passive aggression that's gonna start happening for the next couple days.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Anytime you look like you, why don't you go hang out with your little friends?
Speaker B:I love when it put little in front of everything.
Speaker B:I love the way they put little in front of everything.
Speaker B:It's hilarious.
Speaker B:Why don't you just drive you a nice little car you got?
Speaker B:Everything's little.
Speaker C:And you know what, Nikki?
Speaker C:If this does not apply to you, I'd like to sincerely apologize on behalf of all the ladies out here who are letting you down.
Speaker C:Because I promise you, you are the minority on that.
Speaker C:If this does not apply to you 100%.
Speaker B:Cuz I read that.
Speaker B:I was telling.
Speaker B:Tell Ruben to put that on the board.
Speaker B:Because she just minimized all our feelings.
Speaker B:Yeah, by saying another word is like perception.
Speaker B:This is like a distinction with no difference.
Speaker B:Our feelings don't matter.
Speaker B:Whatever she said is the truth.
Speaker C:When we say that to them, it is like we.
Speaker C:We starting wars when we say that with them 100%.
Speaker A:And I said that.
Speaker C:I didn't.
Speaker C:She didn't have to say that.
Speaker C:I said that.
Speaker C:These are all my feelings.
Speaker C:I acknowledge that on the front end.
Speaker B:And still had the.
Speaker B:Still felt the need to say what she said.
Speaker B:That says a lot.
Speaker B:Just saying, wow,.
Speaker A:Y' all here chilling, man.
Speaker A:Y' all crazy.
Speaker A:Y' all crazy out here today.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what did we learn today?
Speaker C:No solo happiness for men.
Speaker C:That's what we learned.
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker C:Don't be out here trying to find happiness on your own, bro.
Speaker C:Don't do it.
Speaker B:And don't be a 50 year old stepfather with kids under 18.
Speaker B:However, you a grown man.
Speaker B:Do you step daddy?
Speaker B:Okay, whatever.
Speaker A:Nah, I'm good.
Speaker A:I'm good with that shit.
Speaker A:I ain't got time for that.
Speaker A:Awesome ag man.
Speaker A:What's on your mind?
Speaker B:Sidney Poitier is on my mind, man.
Speaker B:Because sometimes as an older black person, when I say older, I mean I'm in my 50s, closer to 60.
Speaker B:And because I was born when I was born, there are a lot of things I took for granted as far as being black in this country that is cyclical now it's coming back and I really appreciate how far we've come for me to be able to say what I'm about to say.
Speaker B:And Sidney Poitier made a movie back in the day, in his heyday, or actually when he was on the come up calling the still at a night.
Speaker B:So if you're old enough, you already know what it is.
Speaker B:If you're not.
Speaker B:This was a time where civil rights hadn't even happened yet.
Speaker B:And he was playing a role of a.
Speaker B:Of a New York.
Speaker B:I think it was a New York detective.
Speaker B:Anyway, he was from the Northeast.
Speaker B:Had to go all the way down to Mississippi to try a case.
Speaker B:And Mississippi is still a third world country as far as racism goes.
Speaker B:Actually, it's a third world country in a lot of different ways.
Speaker B:But the scene was actually he.
Speaker B:He didn't.
Speaker B:What happened was he Wouldn't sign the contract to do the movie unless he was able to respond to a character in kind.
Speaker B:So here's the scene.
Speaker B:He's investigating this plant, you know, this dude who lives on a plantation.
Speaker B:So he's used to, you know, he's not that far removed from being a slave owner.
Speaker B:And his family is kind of dead.
Speaker B:Deep, deep, deep.
Speaker B:You know, they just racist.
Speaker B:They want to be.
Speaker B:So Sidney Portier's character is investigating this murder, and he asked him a direct question, and he got.
Speaker B:He got the pearl clutch and walked up to Sydney's character and slapped him in his face.
Speaker B:Sidney's character slapped him back.
Speaker B:That was the first time that a black man showed that type of defiance to a white man on film.
Speaker B:It was so bad that the film.
Speaker B:The film was so good that it got five Academy Awards and it got a Best Actor out of it, which he wasn't one, and it got a Best Picture out of it.
Speaker B:So I'm like.
Speaker B:It made me understand.
Speaker B:It's just like a lot of the things that we see, like black people fighting, white people shooting white people in the head, whatever.
Speaker B:We're winning, watching, taking for granted.
Speaker B:Because back in the day, there was a time where in a movie, you would never see that without a black person getting killed.
Speaker B:Now, again, like I said it was, it really hit me differently.
Speaker B:And I had seen the movie before, but it really hit me differently.
Speaker B:And a shout to the ancestors has got us to that point to where, on paper, black people could stand up for themselves without getting killed.
Speaker B:Now, in reality, it's coming back to where it used to be, or at least that's what they want to do.
Speaker B:And they're doing a pretty good job of getting us back there.
Speaker B:But I'm just saying, in that moment 70 years ago, that stuff matters, man.
Speaker B:And the people that got us there, they need a shout sometimes, like, hey, I see you.
Speaker B:I appreciate you, no matter what's going on.
Speaker B:Now, I see all that work that you did.
Speaker B:Blood, sweat, tears, hanging, skinning, quarter, you know, tarred, feathered, all the things.
Speaker B:So I just wanted to highlight a lot of things that black people have come to know and take for granted.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying that taking for granted is all bad.
Speaker B:Sometimes taking for granted, if you look at the right way, is a sign that things are at least different.
Speaker B:Not changed, but at least different.
Speaker B:So, anyway, that's not what was on my mind.
Speaker B:Again, just a shout to the elders that are mostly dead from.
Speaker B:From that moment, some of them who are still alive.
Speaker B:I appreciate You.
Speaker B:That's what's on my mind.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:I will shout this out before we move to Moby.
Speaker A:She did say feelings are valid, but they aren't facts.
Speaker A:Two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker A:That's Nikki.
Speaker A:So y' all have y' all battle off air.
Speaker C:That's not a battle.
Speaker C:I agree with her.
Speaker C:Like, if we're gonna end the statement right there.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's fine until it goes.
Speaker B:Until it goes both ways.
Speaker B:It's okay to say that until it goes both ways.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker B:I don't know if she's going to respond the same way.
Speaker B:If somebody was saying that about her or for something that she felt strongly about, that's obviously true.
Speaker B:And no, you know, like, some feelings are obviously true.
Speaker B:But, like, she did say.
Speaker B:She did say.
Speaker B:I have to say this.
Speaker B:Just like she didn't do for Mo, I'm going to do for her.
Speaker B:Two things to be true at the same time.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:That's what I say.
Speaker B:I agree with the statement because again, this whole thing started with something that was unnecessary.
Speaker B:He already led with, these are my feelings.
Speaker B:And we all know how Mo feels about feelings.
Speaker B:They don't count.
Speaker B:They're not real.
Speaker B:In fact, they are real, but for him they're not.
Speaker B:And so it's just like for her to.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was kind of funny.
Speaker B:But anyway.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker A:Mo B, man, what's on your mind?
Speaker C:Perspective, man.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So when I was not sleeping one night this week, I was aimlessly scrolling through movies, and for some reason, like, the trifecta of horror was on tv.
Speaker C:At one point in time, I was going through the guide and I saw the Tyler Perry why did I get Married?
Speaker C:I saw the Notebook and the Titanic.
Speaker C:All three were on at the same effing time.
Speaker B:Somebody not like you and made you.
Speaker A:Go back to sleep.
Speaker C:No, it actually, it made me think.
Speaker C:It was, like, why.
Speaker C:I mean, I thought about it before and I was like, why do.
Speaker C:Why do we hate in love differently now?
Speaker C:What I mean by that is, like, you know, I have very, very strong reasons for why I dislike those movies.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:It's mainly because, like, all of those movies have terrible villains, and there's the women.
Speaker C:The women are villains in all those movies.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And there's nothing you can.
Speaker C:You're going to do to make me feel otherwise.
Speaker C:Now, once again, I.
Speaker C:His perspective.
Speaker C:And then I realized, like, you know, women like villains.
Speaker C:Because when I think about, like, you know, the Tyler Perry formula, that always Works is you got to make the dudes so terrible that they're almost unrealistically bad.
Speaker C:Like, I just.
Speaker C:I can't ever fathom a dude actually being this horrible.
Speaker C:Or he's got to be on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, where I can't imagine any being being that good and just completely unrealistic.
Speaker C:But women like villains.
Speaker C:They need, like.
Speaker C:And then I started thinking about, like, really timeless movies that I'm just like, hey, universally, men and women both.
Speaker C:Both tend to like that movie.
Speaker C:So I was like, hey, Forest Gump.
Speaker C:Like, don't nobody really be mad at Forrest Gump.
Speaker C:But then I was like, hey, there's a villain in that.
Speaker C:Jenny was a villain.
Speaker C:And I was just like, yo, every movie that has a prime female villain becomes a classic.
Speaker C:And I realize Marvel has been doing this wrong.
Speaker C:All these villains are dudes.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, you just need to make a regular scorned chick be the villain.
Speaker C:And then I thought about, has Marvel done that?
Speaker C:And I'm like, they kind of did that with the.
Speaker C:The Scarlet Witch thing.
Speaker C:I'm like, yeah, she was just kind of pissed off, and she.
Speaker C:She was a terrible villain.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, yo, women love villains, even if they're the ones.
Speaker C:Even if they're.
Speaker C:They're the ones we're celebrating.
Speaker C:Like, a villain is a villain.
Speaker C:And I was like, yo, there is no such thing as a classic hero story.
Speaker C:They're only villains that we love to see.
Speaker C:And I can think of every romance movie that a woman thinks of, there's a female villain in it, and it's usually the main character that's just, you know, spoiler alert.
Speaker C:Usually the main character.
Speaker C:She's usually an awful human being that somehow wins, and that's what it is.
Speaker C:So as long as the villain is the female and she wins, we love it.
Speaker C:And as long as the villain is a male, loses in fantastic fashion.
Speaker C:We love it.
Speaker C:We love it.
Speaker C:It's not just enough for him to fail.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:It's just got to be catastrophically horrible for him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker C:Sometimes I find joy in seeing those characters destroyed as well, because I just keep thinking to myself, that's the devil like you.
Speaker C:That's not even a real person you're portraying right here.
Speaker C:You're.
Speaker C:You're literally putting a male version of Lucifer in this movie, and we're all supposed to hate this person together now.
Speaker C:I think when they sneak the woman as a villain, I think a lot of women don't even realize that the women are villains.
Speaker A:They don't.
Speaker C:They don't.
Speaker C:We pointed out they don't agree with us.
Speaker C:Then we.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker C:We battle across the aisle.
Speaker C:Like, I think every dude that looks at Forest Gump reasonably says, jenny's a villain.
Speaker A:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker C:She is an absolute villain.
Speaker C:Janet Jackson in that movie.
Speaker C:Absolute villain.
Speaker A:Absolute villain, biatch.
Speaker B:Actually, the only.
Speaker B:Only in the Tyler Perry thing, the only villain.
Speaker B:Only villain in that movie that was.
Speaker B:Wasn't female.
Speaker B:Jill Scott.
Speaker B:Car.
Speaker B:So just saying.
Speaker B:Everybody else has something going on.
Speaker B:Like, I like my man.
Speaker B:I was like, why you wearing, like, those panties like that bra set to work?
Speaker B:Would you like, what?
Speaker B:So everybody has something going on.
Speaker C:Which.
Speaker C:Look, everybody has something going on.
Speaker C:I'm okay with that.
Speaker C:Because if you're.
Speaker C:If you.
Speaker C:If you have the capacity for good, you have the capacity for bad, we are.
Speaker C:Are all out here dealing with something.
Speaker C:We all got something going on, good or bad.
Speaker C:I just hate when they skew it too far where it's like, yo, that ain't got no redeeming qualities.
Speaker C:He ain't got.
Speaker C:He ain't got one good quality.
Speaker C:Like I said, I swear, man, if y' all ever just want to be intrigued at how you can create a terrible character, watch that Netflix show Polygamous, man.
Speaker C:Because, like, they just.
Speaker C:Just keep making him worse.
Speaker C:Like, it's like, n. Man, it can't get no worse than this.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:But this one time he did this, and then this one time he did this.
Speaker C:Oh, he's actually been doing this the whole time.
Speaker C:It's like, yo, this dude's a superhero of evil.
Speaker C:Like, he.
Speaker C:He's.
Speaker C:He is a superhero of evil.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Superhero.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:All right, so, yeah, man.
Speaker C:Perspective, man.
Speaker C:Like, hey, we all love villains.
Speaker C:We just love villains in different ways.
Speaker A:I hear that Nikki put up here.
Speaker A:Jenny was.
Speaker A:Forest was saved when she kept rejecting him.
Speaker A:But then she says, I wish he wouldn't have married her at the end.
Speaker C:Hey, not even wish I wouldn't have married.
Speaker C:First of all, she came back to him when she was sick and die because she.
Speaker C:She found out he had come up and then said this kid was his because, you know, and Forest.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:Forest ain't ask for no paternity test.
Speaker C:He was like, he.
Speaker C:You know, Forest ain't the smartest dude.
Speaker C:So she.
Speaker C:He was like, hey, you know, I named it for.
Speaker C:So it's got to be yours.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:It's got the same name as you.
Speaker B:I don't think so, man.
Speaker B:I Don't think.
Speaker B:I think Forest was like, I know what time it is, but because you're Jenny, it's okay.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And that would make it even worse, man, because.
Speaker B:Well, it is even worse because that's exactly.
Speaker B:Forest was not a dumb man.
Speaker B:He looked.
Speaker C:I didn't.
Speaker C:I didn't say he was.
Speaker B:No, no, I'm saying that.
Speaker B:I'm just saying because a lot of people, like, I've seen a lot of people that will critique that part.
Speaker B:And I'm sitting there going, bruh, You're.
Speaker B:You're presuming that he doesn't really understand what's happening.
Speaker B:He understood what was happening.
Speaker B:Every time Jenny came back, he was like, that kid ain't mine.
Speaker B:But I love Jenny, so.
Speaker B:I love that kid.
Speaker B:And she's not dying.
Speaker B:He needs somebody.
Speaker B:I know what it's like not to have nobody.
Speaker B:I'm go.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:We good.
Speaker B:Do you, Jenny?
Speaker B:We good.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's what happened to me.
Speaker C:You're right, cuz.
Speaker C:Cuz he did.
Speaker C:He did look her dead in the face and say, I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:He knew.
Speaker B:He knew that.
Speaker B:He knew the entire time.
Speaker B:He knew it the entire time.
Speaker B:Jenny was a broken person.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That was irrevocably broken.
Speaker B:She was never going to be fixed.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:But she knew Forest would help her period.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Nikki said that was very selfish of her.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Not going to find that often.
Speaker B:Nikki's look special tonight.
Speaker C:I mean, a lot of women would.
Speaker B:Be like, should have done that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ag.
Speaker C:I'm not going to give Nikki a pass for that.
Speaker C:Selfish.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's really mildly speaking.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:She was selfish.
Speaker B:Look, man, she.
Speaker C:She was a effed up human being.
Speaker B:Mo.
Speaker B:Take the win.
Speaker B:Take the win, man.
Speaker B:Take the win.
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:That was very selfish of her.
Speaker C:She was a villain.
Speaker C:Thank you for agreeing that she was a villain.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker C:She was a villain.
Speaker A:We know that was hard for you, Moby.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker B:Now don't get me wrong, Mo.
Speaker B:I do agree with everything you're about to say, but I'm like, take the W, bro.
Speaker B:Take the W. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker A:Thanks, sir.
Speaker A:What's on my mind?
Speaker A:Saw my mom last week.
Speaker A:She came down, you know, she forgot to tell me she.
Speaker A:She was coming, even though she told me like a month and a half ago.
Speaker A:But man, I got stuff going on.
Speaker A:So, you know, and I. I met her and her.
Speaker A:Her Easter sauce sisters on Wednesday at Golden Corral or something.
Speaker A:So, of course it's her and three other ladies and stuff, and it's just like, well, you know, we gotta go ahead, do what we got to do.
Speaker A:So, of course, you know, love my mom, you know, that sort of thing.
Speaker A:You know, tell them.
Speaker A:Tell them some little stories because they were friends, too, so, like, you know, just like other friends, they.
Speaker A:They, you know, you rag on your friends a little bit.
Speaker A:It happens.
Speaker A:So I gave him a couple stories about mom and stuff like that, funny stories and stuff.
Speaker A:And, you know, it was good to see my mom in such a.
Speaker A:A different atmosphere because I was her son.
Speaker A:But when it was all said and done, it's almost like she got to show me off a little bit because, you know, I would.
Speaker A:I just come from work at an event and whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:And so it was cool to stop in for like 15, 20 minutes just to be like, hey, this dude explained exist.
Speaker A:And then of course, you know, made mom feel special and that sort of thing.
Speaker A:When they got that food, I rolled out because I. I knew what time it was, man.
Speaker A:I got there.
Speaker A:They adjust to order their food, so I knew I had a maximum of 15 minutes to do what I had to do.
Speaker A:And that's just make my mom look like a million bucks, man.
Speaker B:You could have made her look like $2 million if you paid for the meals, bro.
Speaker A:I could have, but I couldn't.
Speaker C:Once again, don't they gotta think about it.
Speaker C:What did you provide, Ruben?
Speaker A:Don't they gotta think about it.
Speaker C:What would you provide.
Speaker A:If I could have afforded it?
Speaker A:Hey, man, sometimes this is what it is, man.
Speaker B:Sometimes you can't afford not to, sir.
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's not that easy, but.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm just giving you a hard time.
Speaker A:I know, but you know, man, nah, it was just.
Speaker A:It was cool, man.
Speaker A:It was just cool seeing her in a different atmosphere and stuff and, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was just good.
Speaker A:You know, dad.
Speaker A:Dad's driving now, so that's good.
Speaker A:Which is another reason.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, he's now a little bit more independent, so I'm pretty sure he enjoyed himself last week mom was away, he did his thing, so.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, like, see, that's the.
Speaker C:Appropriate time for solo happiness when she's away having a good time.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:Dad got.
Speaker C:Had to do some solo happens.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He had a whole week of just doing he wanted to do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm pretty sure he.
Speaker A:And he had, you know, he had two appointments too, so he was able to take himself to the air and Stuff like that.
Speaker A:So, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure, man.
Speaker A:Life.
Speaker A:Life is beautiful for that guy.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, it's just, you know, we're gonna talk at early earlier about moms and dads and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know if I've ever had any situation where I would.
Speaker A:That I was.
Speaker A:I had to thank people, like, publicly.
Speaker A:All I know is, you know, if I did, it'd be my parents, like, straight up.
Speaker A:Because, you know, without them and my Lord Savior Jesus Christ, I wouldn't be here, you know, and so stuff like that, which I'm not even gonna front, man.
Speaker A:And maybe this is.
Speaker A:This is that point in time where I guess I get to be the bro.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:It's like, practiced.
Speaker A:Any athlete, you know, I get phrased.
Speaker A:My Lord Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:I'm just like, huh?
Speaker A:Like, All y' all love Jesus and God, and then you see him next week commit some crime that they're not supposed to be doing.
Speaker A:And it's just like, did.
Speaker A:Did you give.
Speaker A:Did you give thanks to him?
Speaker A:Then when you.
Speaker A:You wear handcuffs and people carry you off.
Speaker A:I mean, like, what we doing?
Speaker C:I mean, in all fairness, it would be kind of weird if the judge was like, do you have any words not just.
Speaker C:Just like to say, I want to give thanks to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker C:Through him, all things are possible.
Speaker C:Like, that'd be kind of a weird placement for that statement.
Speaker A:But now, man, I feel like.
Speaker A:Because I've.
Speaker A:I can honestly say I've never been an athlete, so I've never won anything to a point where I gotta have a conversation with somebody with a microphone, you know?
Speaker A:And, Moby, I don't know if you've done that before, but, I mean, you know, it's almost like whenever you see it, man, everybody's saying the same thing.
Speaker A:And I felt so proud.
Speaker A:Not proud, but like, today I was watching the TBT finals, and the first dude they went to, you know, he ain't say that.
Speaker A:You know, here's.
Speaker A:I, like, I like to thank my family.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My wife, my.
Speaker A:My newborn baby, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:He ain't say nothing about Lord Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:And I was like, did he forget?
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Cause Norma, everybody say that.
Speaker A:I didn't know that was.
Speaker A:I mean, you can help me out, Moby, but I didn't know if that was a necessity.
Speaker A:If you were being interviewed.
Speaker C:Maybe he just.
Speaker A:Whether you feel that way or not,.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, maybe he wants your hating ass to be talking about him later on.
Speaker C:So he was like, let me.
Speaker C:I'm gonna leave God out of this because I don't want Reuben, that diabolical hater, to talk about me on his podcast on Sunday.
Speaker A:But I wasn't even hating you.
Speaker A:Like, I felt.
Speaker C:I don't know, man.
Speaker C:It do sound.
Speaker A:You taking it the wrong way.
Speaker A:I. I felt good because, yo, man, he said.
Speaker A:He said what he said and was like, you know, the most important things to him at that moment was his family and his teammates.
Speaker A:And, you know, it wasn't.
Speaker A:I mean, because look, man, sometimes it's done and it seems so scripted and it seems so fake.
Speaker A:So for me, I was happy that he didn't say it.
Speaker A:Not saying that he didn't believe in any of that.
Speaker A:But at that point in time, man, they had just won the tbt.
Speaker A:It was like their third finals and they've been.
Speaker A:They said that their first championship TBT championship ever.
Speaker A:They just went and shared $2 million.
Speaker A:And he was just like, like, yo, man, it's about my family and my friends and my teammates.
Speaker A:That's what this shit's about now.
Speaker B:But do.
Speaker C:Do you know why it's so scripted?
Speaker C:Because.
Speaker C:Because the.
Speaker C:The biggest haters in the world are Christians.
Speaker C:Because as soon as you don't say something, oh, you ain't going to thank your God.
Speaker C:You ain't going to thank God for this.
Speaker C:Like, I promise you there was somebody listening to that interview and you heard us, man, I'm glad this dude, you know, didn't do that scripted thing.
Speaker C:There's somebody right now like, heathen, you ain't going to thank your Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker C:I mean, you ain't wrong.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:I mean, the biggest diabolical haters go to church.
Speaker A:Like, that's why I think it's impressive that I'm a diabolic hate, cuz I don't go to church.
Speaker A:So, like, yeah, shout out.
Speaker C:They not only located in church though, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, yeah, but man, they don't have.
Speaker C:An exclusivity on hate.
Speaker C:Promise you they don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, but that they, they think it's not hating.
Speaker A:That's the problem.
Speaker A:They hating this thing.
Speaker A:They don't think it's not.
Speaker A:Hey, I at least realize it is straight up hate.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, nah, I, I was.
Speaker A:It was good because then the next guy did say, like, thank my Lord, J. Lord Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker C:Because he probably heard his mans and he was like, let me.
Speaker C:I gotta.
Speaker C:I gotta come Correct, man, I gotta make sure they don't think ain't none of us gonna thank God.
Speaker C:Like, no, no, we gotta.
Speaker A:And as an athlete movie, is that something that y' all are taught to do or you just kind of picked it up because other people picked it up?
Speaker C:Yeah, you ain't talk.
Speaker C:All that stuff is basically you heard people hear other people.
Speaker C:And I mean, look, man, it's.
Speaker C:It's kind of a monkey see, monkey do thing, man.
Speaker C:Like, that's.
Speaker C:That's what people just like the hot mom thing.
Speaker B:I bet.
Speaker C:I bet everybody didn't used to give their mom a shout out.
Speaker C:And then one person did it and.
Speaker C:And all the other moms start looking at their kids funny like, hey, you ain't nobody.
Speaker C:You ain't shouting me out.
Speaker B:They start looking at the kids funny.
Speaker C:Start sign out, hey, Corey, you ain't say a about me.
Speaker B:Corey.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Such a random name.
Speaker B:It's not a more random name than Zach.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker C:At least Zach's not random.
Speaker A:So terrible.
Speaker A:But nah, man, that's all.
Speaker A:I mean, that's really all I want to talk about, man, because, you know, I get it.
Speaker A:That's just like me saying, you know, like, thank everybody for this episode, but first of all, like, thank my Lord and savior Jesus Christ for us to be here, and we can.
Speaker A:And we can do this episode for you.
Speaker A:And saying all that made me feel some kind of way, but it's what it is.
Speaker A:We'll see.
Speaker C:I'm telling you that somebody who, who's like, hey, these heathens need to be thanking God.
Speaker A:I mean, don't get twisted.
Speaker A:I. I love the Lord.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, but I guess I am a heathen, cuz I. I don't really love him enough.
Speaker C:If you don't say it, you know, it's.
Speaker C:Look, man, you know how our culture is.
Speaker A:It's blasphemous, man.
Speaker C:If you don't say it, it's a declaration of hate.
Speaker C:Just, Just like, if you don't say pause after you say something, that's suspect, right?
Speaker C:You know, you suspect, which is.
Speaker C:Just gets exhausting when I.
Speaker C:When I hear these young dudes saying pause at the end of every sentence, they say.
Speaker C:I'm just like.
Speaker C:I mean, look, man, I get sometimes, sometimes it can be a stream, but like, like every statement, like, at some point in time, we gotta just be like, hey, man, we understand that you're not talking about anything gay here.
Speaker C:Okay, continue.
Speaker A:Or you can.
Speaker A:Or you can just open up your vocabulary.
Speaker A:Like, I'm sorry, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, just open up your vocabulary, that might be best.
Speaker A:But with that being said, like, like thank everybody for joining us on the show.
Speaker A:Whether it's live or you listen to us on the podcast later on on YouTube.
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Speaker A:I repeat, next week will be off.
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Speaker A:But like thank everybody once again.
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Speaker A:But yeah, we're gonna take a week off next week.
Speaker A:But we'll be back on the what's today?
Speaker A:Today's second on the 17th.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:The 17th.
Speaker A:Nope, the 16th.
Speaker A:The 16th because I can't add today.
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Speaker A:Please tell the enemy, tell your friend.
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Speaker A:Once again, I like to thank Moby.
Speaker A:Like thank ag.
Speaker A:I'd like thank you for being here with us on this episode today.
Speaker A:And hey, like I said, we will be back in two weeks live and better than ever.
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