Episode 321
Episode 321 - Navigating Family Dynamics in Diverse Relationships
Today, we delve into the intricate dynamics of relationships and societal perceptions, particularly focusing on the implications of interracial dating. The salient point revolves around the notion that entering into a relationship with a partner of a different race can elicit strong reactions from family and community members, which often impacts the relationship's viability. Through our candid discussion, we explore the multifaceted experiences of individuals navigating these challenges, emphasizing the necessity for awareness and understanding in such contexts. We reflect on personal anecdotes and societal observations, aiming to foster a deeper comprehension of how cultural backgrounds influence interpersonal connections. As we engage with these themes, we invite listeners to consider their own experiences and the broader implications of love, acceptance, and societal expectations.
Transcript
How y' all doing?
Speaker A:My name is Reuben now with five minute Warning.
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Speaker B:It contains strong language.
Speaker B:It is intended only for mature audiences.
Speaker B:This week on the five minute Warning.
Speaker C:Because at first when.
Speaker C:When she was like, if you like, you should have put a ring on, you know, she's showing off her big ass rock to Jay Z. Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like these women are like, hey, we love you because you're like dreams, you know, you're the goal.
Speaker C:But like, we can't relate to you.
Speaker C:But you start talking about a cheating on you, oh, you can come over now.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We cool.
Speaker C:We on the same level now.
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at all, that's everywhere you don't want to.
Speaker B:It's Reuben Low B.
Speaker B:And on the ones and twos, AG.
Speaker A:The five Minute Warning.
Speaker A:Welcome to a brand new episode of five Minute Warning.
Speaker A:As always, this your man Reuben in the house tonight on a beautiful, beautiful Sunday evening.
Speaker A:Glad that all y' all can be here with us today.
Speaker A:As always with me, the Dynamic 2.
Speaker A:That will be first of all, my cousin AG.
Speaker B:What's happening, y'?
Speaker B:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:And my homeboy Moby.
Speaker C:What's going on, man?
Speaker A:Hey, what's going on, players?
Speaker A:How we living today?
Speaker B:Oh, we living because you said you had a bone to pick with me about that cobra comment that I didn't get that I didn't watch the show.
Speaker B:So what's the what.
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker A:What are we talking about?
Speaker B:That's right, because you don't listen to your own show, so apparently you don't know anything, so.
Speaker B:But you said you had a bone to pick.
Speaker C:Yeah, he didn't get the GI Joe reference and he felt some type of.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:So what did you get the GI Joe reference?
Speaker B:I didn't watch the show enough to do that.
Speaker B:How could I get something?
Speaker B:I never watched it.
Speaker C:And Ag, in Ruben's defense, if you ever watch the show, I'm sure it's funny.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker C:I'm just saying if you ever Watch the show.
Speaker C:He says it in every goddamn episode.
Speaker C:He lives out Cobra in.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker B:I had no idea.
Speaker B:Because, again, I don't watch.
Speaker B:Let's go back.
Speaker A:Hold on, man.
Speaker C:It's like Scooby Doo.
Speaker C:Like, you know, at some point in time, somebody's gonna say something about them meddling kids.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:Like in GI Joe, he's gonna start yelling cobra.
Speaker B:See, I ain't know that.
Speaker A:Hold on, man.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Yo, we're not gonna stick the problem.
Speaker C:You're not about to shame him because he didn't watch G.I.
Speaker C:Joe.
Speaker B:Because he already did.
Speaker C:Because I said right on the podcast.
Speaker C:Like, if you made a Voltron reference, I'm clueless, buddy.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just like, hey, man, whatever, man.
Speaker C:I take your wor, man.
Speaker A:But if they start talking about form feet and legs, form arms and torso, and I'll form the head, you know, what the hell we talking about?
Speaker B:That could be Transformers.
Speaker C:I was thinking that was Power Rangers.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker C:What are we talking about, man?
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And actually, I've watched a few episodes of Power Rangers because, you know, the.
Speaker A:Grandson watched, and they never say that,.
Speaker C:But, hey, look, man, once again, you're talking about shows that.
Speaker C:First, I'm not a Voltron fan.
Speaker C:Not a Power Rangers fan.
Speaker C:I said on show.
Speaker C:If you said, if you make a He man reference, I'm clueless.
Speaker C:Like, they're making the he man that he man movie, and I'm just like, sure.
Speaker C:There's a reason.
Speaker A:There's a reason why he man referenced this.
Speaker A:Because the was terrible.
Speaker B:It's terrible to.
Speaker B:You see, here we go again.
Speaker B:I'm not going to get involved in this.
Speaker B:The bottom line is you called me out on something that wasn't fair for you to call me out on, and I wasn't there to defend myself.
Speaker C:GI Joe was good.
Speaker C:Are we really going to sit here and act like GI Joe is a good cartoon?
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:None of them were good.
Speaker C:But you just.
Speaker A:Acceptable.
Speaker C:You're right, Ag.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, man.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:I didn't start that.
Speaker B:Because we're not going down that rabbit hole, sir.
Speaker B:We're not doing it.
Speaker A:Hey, man.
Speaker B:All I was.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:Hey, man.
Speaker A:My bad.
Speaker A:I figured that everybody who grew up during that time had an idea of what GI Joe and Cobra was like.
Speaker A:That's me.
Speaker A:I'll eat that.
Speaker B:We know what it is.
Speaker B:It's just you have to watch the show to understand it at your level, which I never did.
Speaker C:Cadence, you sure you don't want to be on the Old man Podc.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:So she can look at us and call us old?
Speaker C:I'm just saying, I asked her right before I got on, and she was like, no, that's for old people.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, all right, damn.
Speaker C:Like my daughter, Moco.
Speaker A:Cowboy gargoyles, actually.
Speaker B:And your daughter's.
Speaker B:We were all mean when we were that young.
Speaker B:Come on now.
Speaker B:Come on now.
Speaker B:There's a.
Speaker B:There's a lyric in the song that says it.
Speaker B:I remember when 30 was old.
Speaker B:So come on now.
Speaker B:But yeah, you called me out, man.
Speaker B:I was like, bruh, really?
Speaker B:Is this what we're doing?
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:Hey, you know what?
Speaker A:And once again, Ag, my bad.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm not apologize.
Speaker A:I'mma publicly apologize because, hey, man, my bad.
Speaker A:I thought people of all age, everybody watched G.I.
Speaker A:Joe at least once or twice.
Speaker A:Maybe even the G.I.
Speaker A:Joe the movie.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I mean, I've seen the movie, but that doesn't mean that when somebody puts a reference out there, then I'm like, cuz, like, if I put a reference out there to Star Blazers, you're going to be clueless.
Speaker A:Probably no clue.
Speaker A:Blazers.
Speaker C:I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker A:All Star Blazers.
Speaker B:That's the theme song.
Speaker B:Everybody know that.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's surface level.
Speaker A:I don't know that, sir.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker C:I do not know that.
Speaker C:I've never even.
Speaker C:Until you just said that.
Speaker C:I've never even heard of that show.
Speaker C:I didn't know that show.
Speaker A:Starblades came.
Speaker A:Starblazers came out before Voltron.
Speaker B:That's exactly my point.
Speaker A:If we want to go deep, we could talk about Transor Z.
Speaker A:We could talk a little bit about Gundam.
Speaker A:I mean, we can go like, whoa, don't be talking about what I know or don't know.
Speaker A:I know some.
Speaker C:We never did.
Speaker B:That is so not the point.
Speaker B:But okay, we never brought anything you say s. Because he is definitely in his feelings right now.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I'm just saying, man, I apologize like twice and don't feel like you attacked you.
Speaker A:You accepted my apology.
Speaker C:You know what it is, Ag.
Speaker C:If you say anything about it, you're attacking him, man.
Speaker B:Like, actually, I should be attacking him because he attacked me and I wasn't there to defend myself.
Speaker B:That's what really.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is what this is really about.
Speaker B:Because I'm sitting there editing.
Speaker C:I was like, this fool just called me out.
Speaker A:Oh, did I apologize twice?
Speaker A:Do I need to apologize the third time?
Speaker B:No, you don't need to apologize anymore.
Speaker B:I'm Recalling the way I felt when I heard you.
Speaker B:That's all I was doing right then.
Speaker B:But you know what, Reuben?
Speaker A:I accept your apology, sir.
Speaker A:I appreciate it.
Speaker A:Do you feel better now?
Speaker C:How dare you not watch GI Joe, dog.
Speaker C:How dare you.
Speaker B:I know it was a sin.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was a five minute warning sin.
Speaker B:And you know Reuben's got the five minute warning nails in his feet and hands and I'm sorry.
Speaker B:My bad, sir.
Speaker B:My bad.
Speaker A:I rolled the dice on that and I came up.
Speaker A:I came up late.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, rolling the dice.
Speaker C:Somebody gave you a reference that they understood like I understood it.
Speaker C:And you.
Speaker C:It still won't enough for you because you need a total confirmation of your reference.
Speaker A:I just thought I. I thought it was all three of them would know us.
Speaker A:That's all he did.
Speaker C:We'll take it further in the chat.
Speaker C:Didn't I compliment him for.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You were gushing.
Speaker C:I was like, that's a great reference.
Speaker A:And I felt like $150 million there when you said that.
Speaker A:I was like, nah, man.
Speaker A:But it won't enough, man.
Speaker A:Appreciate it.
Speaker C:I mean, Ruby, you got real feminine about this.
Speaker C:This moment.
Speaker C:Now that I think about it, man, like, it just.
Speaker C:It just wasn't enough that bad.
Speaker C:You just kept moving.
Speaker C:You moved the goalpost.
Speaker C:The said that got the reference.
Speaker C:And I complimented you on it.
Speaker C:But you was just like.
Speaker C:But ag didn't think I was cute.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:You know, I was trying to stay away from that part because it's kind of what my whole prove me wrong things about.
Speaker B:But you.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:Leave it alone.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm leave it alone.
Speaker B:Actually, I go way deeper than that because I was like, wow.
Speaker B:He just.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And I wasn't even thinking about me per se.
Speaker B:I was just thinking about other situations and I'm like, oof.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And he brought up old shit.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:This wasn't.
Speaker B:This wasn't old anything.
Speaker B:This was like other situations that concern you, that don't concern me, that you might want to correct.
Speaker B:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker B:I'll leave it there.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker B:Because I was listening to again.
Speaker B:I'm sitting here minding my business.
Speaker B:Click, click, click, cut, cut, cut.
Speaker B:And I'm like, did he just call me out for no reason?
Speaker B:He called me out about, oh boy, you gonna really have to correct that.
Speaker A:Real talk don't even remember calling you out.
Speaker A:That's real talk.
Speaker B:And that's even worse.
Speaker A:But that.
Speaker A:But that doesn't Mean, I didn't.
Speaker B:Oh, no, I know you're never gonna know because we had this discussion.
Speaker B:You don't listen to your own show and.
Speaker A:Well, no, I do, but I haven't listened to the I just put out.
Speaker B:No, you told me you don't listen to the whole thing.
Speaker C:Ag, Let me transact Ruben, okay?
Speaker C:He said.
Speaker C:He basically said, I do not recall the hating ass statement I made, but because I know myself, chances are I made that hate.
Speaker A:So true, I'm going to fall on that sword because I don't even know if I deserved it.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:My sorry ass probably did it.
Speaker A:So I'm going go ahead and eat that one because.
Speaker C:I say this is a win, because that's some self awareness right there.
Speaker C:He was just like, was it self awareness, though?
Speaker B:Was it self awareness that we had to go this far?
Speaker B:I mean, we're nine minutes in with this.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Not self awareness that we had to go this far.
Speaker C:It's self awareness that we got here because we don't usually get here.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Baby steps, Baby steps.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker A:We don't get here, you know, but, hey, look, I empathize with your statement.
Speaker A:And I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:I haven't listened.
Speaker A:But knowing me, I probably did.
Speaker B:But see, the reason why I said, you don't listen to it.
Speaker B:And then you were like, I listened to it.
Speaker B:I said, reuben, the reason why I wanted you to listen to it in particular, the time that we were talking about it was you had no idea that the commercial that you recorded is in the show every week.
Speaker B:And I told you, I said, bro, it's so cool the way I got the transition or whatever, because you don't make a transition, which is on you.
Speaker B:You don't make a transition.
Speaker B:So I made one for you.
Speaker B:And I was like, yo, it's so hot as f fire.
Speaker B:And it's like, what do you mean you don't know, man?
Speaker B:Just listen to it.
Speaker B:You're like, man, whatever, I ain't got time.
Speaker B:That's almost the sentiment that you left me.
Speaker B:I was like, that's.
Speaker A:That's because I trust you, A.D. and I hear that.
Speaker B:But did you hear how you sound?
Speaker B:Did you hear how you sound, though?
Speaker C:A.G. i'd like to take a moment to acknowledge how great of a producer you are.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Appreciate all of your hard work because you do stuff that I know I can't do.
Speaker C:So I would like to just say thank you, bro.
Speaker B:Thank you, Moby.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:You can see y' all got me messed up, man.
Speaker B:We got you messed up.
Speaker B:Are you sure?
Speaker B:Are you sure?
Speaker A:Everybody know?
Speaker A:Everybody know I appreciate you.
Speaker B:No, no, but we're not questioning that.
Speaker B:We're not questioning that.
Speaker A:Again.
Speaker B:This is one of the.
Speaker B:I felt two things when you said that to me.
Speaker B:The first thing was, this dude just blew me off.
Speaker B:The second thing was, please don't do this to someone who has a vagina.
Speaker B:Please, please don't.
Speaker B:Those are the only two thoughts ahead.
Speaker B:Mocho Cowboy.
Speaker B:We appreciate jg.
Speaker A:We appreciate you, AG.
Speaker A:That's hashtag appreciate AG.
Speaker B:Well, you know what, Mocowboy?
Speaker B:If you listen to the podcast, you know that transition is fire.
Speaker B:In fact, all the people, and there are quite a few thousands of people download this podcast.
Speaker C:Ain't that.
Speaker B:Ain't that transition fire?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Telling you, man, it's fire.
Speaker A:All day.
Speaker A:All day, it's fire.
Speaker C:You making it worse.
Speaker C:You making it worse by saying it's fire.
Speaker C:You ain't never heard.
Speaker B:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker B:And it's like, I don't like it because he can.
Speaker B:He tried to soften the blow by saying, I trust you.
Speaker B:I'm like, you know what?
Speaker B:That was pretty good.
Speaker B:Not the point.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, see, here's the thing, right?
Speaker A:Like, I know that you do fire things because you've done the intro.
Speaker A:Intro.
Speaker A:You've changed the intro.
Speaker A:You've done a remix to intro.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Like, you.
Speaker A:You've done this whole thing, man.
Speaker A:It's a 100, man.
Speaker A:Whatever you wanted, like the opening, you did that.
Speaker A:You're phenomenal.
Speaker A:You're doing that.
Speaker A:I can't even think about doing.
Speaker A:I would have never thought about doing.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, I mean, whatever movie.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just saying, Ag.
Speaker C:The whole point is just going right over it.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what, man, I appreciate the idea that now.
Speaker B:I appreciate the idea that you appreciate me, but honestly, that is not the point.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:The idea that you have blind trust in me, I'll take it, sir.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker B:But please, going forward in your romantic life, don't ever freaking do that again, ever.
Speaker B:Because you will be by yourself or you'll be with somebody that hates you.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm not saying.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to put anything on you.
Speaker B:I'm telling you the facts, okay?
Speaker B:I'm not attacking you.
Speaker B:I'm just letting you know.
Speaker A:No, I'm just saying, you know, my thought is two things can be right at the same time, okay?
Speaker B:As long as we're There because I'm not attacking you and I'm not trying to fulfill a future that hasn't come to pass yet.
Speaker B:I'm just letting you know.
Speaker B:Cause I was sitting there like, what?
Speaker B:But then I was like, oh, man, please don't do that again.
Speaker B:So, you know, all good.
Speaker B:All good stuff.
Speaker A:I mean, exactly.
Speaker A:You know, I started this episode and I was like, I was excited because today was just one of those days.
Speaker A:I did a whole bunch of chilling.
Speaker A:I'm turning TV channels, doing some stuff around the house, and possibly the greatest thing came on tv.
Speaker A:And I was just like, damn, this movie is.
Speaker A:Is good and bad at the same time.
Speaker A:Pooty Tank.
Speaker A:God damn.
Speaker A:Pooty Tank was like sippy tie on the map.
Speaker A:God damn it.
Speaker A:That movie's awesome.
Speaker A:You know, I'm glad they even think about coming up with a sequel for that.
Speaker A:Like, it's great.
Speaker A:They never show it a lot, so when it comes on, you gotta sit there and appreciate it.
Speaker A:And the only one, one of the things I thought, the scene where the girl, the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The sheriff's daughter came to the house and she had baked him that cherry pie, and he just grabbed the cherry pie and rub that all over him, which was obscenely nasty.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, I hope they did that in one take.
Speaker A:That's the only thing I can hope for that man.
Speaker A:Because I was just like, this is.
Speaker A:This is nasty.
Speaker A:Like, this is not.
Speaker A:Not even remotely cool.
Speaker C:You know, it's this moment right now that I realize I don't really like that movie.
Speaker C:Because you're making reference to a scene that I can't even picture.
Speaker C:Like, it's like I've blocked that movie out.
Speaker C:Like, I know when you make.
Speaker C:When you make certain references, I know you're talking about that movie, but like, that whole scene you just described, that shit has never happened in my mind.
Speaker C:Like, it just.
Speaker A:That's nasty though.
Speaker C:It's a space that just.
Speaker C:I will not allow my neurons and my brain to activate that memory.
Speaker B:Well, you know, I kind of got a story about that too.
Speaker B:It took me 20 years to like the movie, but the biggest story I have from it is I'm sitting around at my mother in law's house.
Speaker B:I'm married to a white woman, so you already know what time it is.
Speaker B:She is a maga.
Speaker B:You already know what time it is.
Speaker B:But I'm sitting around and I don't know how it came up, but she said, oh, I love Pootie Tang.
Speaker B:And I'm looking at her like, what.
Speaker A:Shut the fuck up.
Speaker B:I'm not kidding.
Speaker B:She has seen that movie multiple times.
Speaker B:I said seven times in a Watata.
Speaker B:She knew exactly what I meant.
Speaker B:I promise you it's true.
Speaker B:I promise you it's true.
Speaker B:She is a.
Speaker B:She's an old white woman.
Speaker B:That's Maga.
Speaker B:And this happened, Sir, I promise you it happened.
Speaker B:My wife was sitting right next to me when it happened.
Speaker B:It was hilarious.
Speaker C:Next you're gonna say they like Undercover Brother too.
Speaker B:Like, you know, it never came up.
Speaker B:But it wouldn't shock me if.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker A:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:What are we saying?
Speaker A:The first one or the second piece of that came out?
Speaker B:No, it's always the first one.
Speaker C:I don't consider the second one doesn't exist to me either.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker C:I can't.
Speaker B:They should have left well enough.
Speaker B:They should love well enough alone.
Speaker B:I mean, they had the two prettiest women in.
Speaker B:In the industry at the time.
Speaker B:In the shower.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:You should have left it alone, bro.
Speaker A:That scene itself, but the.
Speaker B:But the greatest scene in that movie was the orange soda.
Speaker B:The orange soda was the greatest thing ever.
Speaker B:I was like, bruh.
Speaker B:But anyway, my.
Speaker B:My mother in law, I mean, we differ in so many ways.
Speaker B:But I promise you, in that moment, I was like, like, girl, I love you.
Speaker C:I'm telling you, man, you found some commonalities.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Mine.
Speaker B:Telling you, man, it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a real thing.
Speaker B:It happened.
Speaker B:It happened, it happened.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Hold on, man.
Speaker A:Okay, I guess, man.
Speaker A:Pooty train.
Speaker A:Pooty T, man.
Speaker A:Crossing borders, baby.
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker A:Crossing borders.
Speaker A:God.
Speaker C:You know, low key.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:There's a lot of movies like that that you wouldn't think, but probably do.
Speaker C:There's a lot of those movies out there, bro.
Speaker B:You being mad.
Speaker A:She loves CB4.
Speaker B:I don't know, maybe.
Speaker B:But again, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm just.
Speaker B:Look, man, I'mma just take that win if it's.
Speaker B:If you call that a win.
Speaker B:But I'm just letting you know, it was the most.
Speaker B:It craziest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker B:It's one of those things where it's like, tell me something in your life you ain't see coming without telling me something in your life you didn't see coming.
Speaker A:It's like you'd have been better than me.
Speaker A:I probably would have passed out.
Speaker A:I'm shocked because I'm telling you, man,.
Speaker C:That you'd be surprised what people like.
Speaker C:I've heard.
Speaker C:I've heard some dude that looks like every stereotypical redneck you've ever seen in your life making Harlem Nights references.
Speaker C:And I was just like, where are we at?
Speaker C:How.
Speaker A:How we get here?
Speaker C:What were you doing in your life where you saw that?
Speaker B:Telling you, man, you never know.
Speaker B:You just never know.
Speaker B:I mean, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
Speaker B:That's not really practical because we meet and encounter so many people every day.
Speaker B:But if you could.
Speaker B:If you could get to know people to a person, you'd be amazed at how common you are together.
Speaker B:It's just like you did what?
Speaker B:Yeah, I did it, or I saw that, or I heard that and I laughed or I didn't laugh.
Speaker B:And it's just like, me too.
Speaker B:Same Z.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:AG if you'd have walked into your mother's law's house and she was watching Harlem Nights, you probably would have just walked out after you took a picture of that shit, man.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, for someone like her, for someone like her, some things in the black culture aren't that far fetched to her.
Speaker B:Like, she loves her.
Speaker B:Some.
Speaker B:Some doo wop.
Speaker B:She loves doo wop.
Speaker B:She loves R and B.
Speaker B:Actually, my w. My wife's knowledge of R and B came directly from her.
Speaker B:I mean, you have to add.
Speaker B:You have to put the context in it.
Speaker B:Because again, a lot of white folks her age back in the day, low key.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They might not have gone to the concerts at first.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But certainly as adults, you know, they like the songs.
Speaker B:But again, that don't mean that they like you.
Speaker B:They just like the songs.
Speaker B:And they associate something warm with black people singing and dancing.
Speaker B:Now we're just giving a performance, but to them it's not.
Speaker B:No, it's not shucking and jiving.
Speaker B:It's not that the performance is real, but to them it's something else.
Speaker B:So they can.
Speaker B:They can compartmentalize all day long.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But again, I still have to say, my wife's knowledge of R B is deep.
Speaker B:And it's due to my mother in law, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:Man, sometimes, yeah, like.
Speaker A:Like I like the second movie, the second version of Hairspray.
Speaker A:I think that movie is awesome.
Speaker A:I think the first version is trash and I think the live version is trash.
Speaker A:The fact that they came out with a live version and they butchered it so much.
Speaker A:Like they.
Speaker A:They really like PC that shit.
Speaker A:And I was just like, how do you.
Speaker A:Like, how do you PC a movie that the whole purpose of it was to integrate?
Speaker A:And we have found a way to PC that.
Speaker B:Like, let's not.
Speaker B:Let's not say we.
Speaker B:Let's not say we.
Speaker B:We all know who did somebody because.
Speaker A:I don't know who redid that, but somebody like PC the out of that because.
Speaker C:No, that was the whites.
Speaker A:Well, hold on.
Speaker A:Here's it.
Speaker B:Is that equivalent to the black.
Speaker C:You know, that was the whites.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:I've been.
Speaker C:I've been wrong about these things before as like as recently as last week when I was talking about Terror Shooter and they were like, hey man, I think a hair look nappy as like how.
Speaker C:How do.
Speaker C:First of all, I got a whole bunch of things to talk about that.
Speaker C:But I.
Speaker C:Continue, continue.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So okay, like if you've never heard the movie, basically it's about integration in the 60s, right.
Speaker A:So they came the 70s.
Speaker A:That's the one that Ricky Lake was in.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So of course, you know, it was all about integration and you know, starting with kids being on a all white dance show, but on two weeks of the month they have it for black kids.
Speaker A:So whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:The movie is about integration.
Speaker A:And so when they came out with a color version about 15 years ago, John Travolta.
Speaker A:John Travolta actually put on, for lack of a better term, a fat suit.
Speaker A:White female, fat suit.
Speaker A:And played a woman in the movie.
Speaker A:Because I don't.
Speaker A:I don't even know why.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not even trying to get into that.
Speaker A:But same thing, it's about integration, like, so they updated it, you know, threw some, some catchy tunes in there.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:Pretty solid dope movie.
Speaker A:So I guess a couple years ago when they went on this craze about making a whole bunch of old movies live, which all of them are terrible.
Speaker A:All of them absolutely terrible.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:So once again, like I go back to my point, a movie about integration.
Speaker A: And in: Speaker A:What the one, like one.
Speaker A:One of the major parts of the movie is like how you have the little fat white girl, she's dancing like black people because she likes to shake her hips and stuff.
Speaker A:And apparently back then white people didn't shake their hips with dancing and stuff, you know, whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:And you know, and all that.
Speaker A:And so they basically get scorned for that and Pa.
Speaker A:Publicly scorned for doing that and stuff.
Speaker A:And so they end up meeting black people and all this other stuff.
Speaker A:So her friend who is a skinny white girl who really can't dance, but you know, she's friends, a fat girl.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:She falls in love with a black dude.
Speaker A:And so, long story short, at the end of the movie, the big musical thing, they get together, and she pretty much comes out and calls herself a checkerboard chick, AKA hey, I like black guys on national tv.
Speaker A:Okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker A:Her mom fakes.
Speaker A:Shit's crazy.
Speaker A:So on the live version, they do that.
Speaker A:But when they did it in the.
Speaker A:On the movie, it was pretty demonstrative.
Speaker A:Like, they coming out dancing and shit, and she's, like, singing to him and all this, all in front of tv, Boom, Whatever.
Speaker A:Like, the biggest spectacle ever.
Speaker A:Like, what was that movie Empire?
Speaker B:Like?
Speaker A:Remember this TV show Empire, right?
Speaker A:Did you watch that AGM when old boy came out as gay with that.
Speaker A:With his dad's song, like, that type of, like, big time for.
Speaker A:For the 60s, big time.
Speaker A:Like, hey, I like black dudes.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:So in the live verse version, that was tamed down solo, like, she said it, I think it was.
Speaker A:I don't know who played it, Dove, Cameron, or somebody, I don't know.
Speaker A:But said it's so, like, low.
Speaker A:Like, it didn't mean anything.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, y' all just neutered the whole goddamn, like, movie.
Speaker A:Because that's, like the big.
Speaker A:That's like the big one of the big, like, storylines.
Speaker A:And they were just like, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:I like black dudes.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm checking, like, you just like, what the.
Speaker A:Like, sorry.
Speaker A:Then I could look at Mobi's face.
Speaker A:He's like, will you please shut the up.
Speaker B:Move.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker A:And that's fine.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's not even that.
Speaker C:I just was getting a little bit amused because you were explaining.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You were, man.
Speaker C:Explaining the synopsis of that movie, and you were doing.
Speaker C:You were doing it kind of like one of my daughters explaining a story about something that happened at school.
Speaker C:Like, you just didn't want to land the plane.
Speaker C:You just.
Speaker C:You kept coming in, come coming in, fly back up, and you.
Speaker C:You come back in, and you can't just land.
Speaker C:Then you give another context clue that really didn't have anything to do with your point.
Speaker C:And then you tried to bring up a reference about a person that was not really important to the story that you were given.
Speaker C:It was like, you just like, nah, man, we gonna ride this out until I feel safe landing it.
Speaker A:Well, but I had to get there to get there, so.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:But, yeah, so Hollywood remaking live.
Speaker A:Stop it.
Speaker A:Just stop it.
Speaker A:Leave the Al alone if you can't make it a movie that you can go back and edit.
Speaker A:Like, just don't do it because live versions are terrible and all you're going to do is PC the out of it anyway.
Speaker A:So why, why are you doing that to us?
Speaker A:Because I don't need to see that.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker C:And you don't have to watch it.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker C:Just in case you didn't know why they did it.
Speaker C:They did it for money.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Which, which gets me to our topic today.
Speaker A:We're bringing back an oldie but goodie.
Speaker A:Haven't done it in a while.
Speaker A:And I felt like, you know, with Trump doing his across the, across the, across the world, I don't feel like talking about that anymore because it's tired.
Speaker A:And we're gonna do something a little different.
Speaker A:So we're gonna bring back.
Speaker A:I want to say I believe it was Mo B's segment.
Speaker A:Tell me that I'm wrong.
Speaker B:So, by the way, he always won.
Speaker A:Of course he always won his cutting segment.
Speaker B:Nah, but he just always won.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Cause he, he be coming up with.
Speaker A:That is not fair, dude.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Just smarter than we are.
Speaker B:I mean, we got to get in this time.
Speaker C:I, I was just going to say it's because I think about that nobody, y' all probably don't take the time to think because I just waste a lot of thought process on random.
Speaker B:Is it wasting, though?
Speaker B:Is it really wasting?
Speaker C:What purpose is it serving ag to win?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I, I, I guess.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:He's a winner.
Speaker A:He's a winner.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So once again to go over what it is, we each going to have one thing that we're going to talk about and bas other two have to tell us why we're wrong and convince us and convince that person that they wrong.
Speaker A:And yeah.
Speaker A:And like you said, Moby is undefeated.
Speaker A:And we'll just see how that goes.
Speaker A:So, ag.
Speaker A:Well, let's start out okay.
Speaker B:Dating a white girl at any time in your life is a forever stench.
Speaker B:You will never, ever get rid of it.
Speaker B:And all it takes is one time tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker A:That's tough word, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because you're gonna lose.
Speaker B:You're gonna freaking lose is what you're gonna do.
Speaker A:I mean, because I have dated a.
Speaker B:White girl and you stick to learn along with me.
Speaker B:You stick to right along.
Speaker A:I'm not saying I don't.
Speaker A:I'm just saying hard to disagree with that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:It's so hard.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Because it's almost like, it's almost like black women can smell that,.
Speaker C:You know?
Speaker C:I agree with y'.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker B:Okay, here's the but.
Speaker B:Here's the but.
Speaker C:No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker C:There is no but.
Speaker C:You're absolutely right.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Once it's out in the, in the air, that that's happened.
Speaker C:That's your label.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Forever.
Speaker C:But it's not the biggest stench a man can get, but it's, it's pretty close.
Speaker B:Well, committing a sex crime is always better than that or worse than that.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it's, it's not even about a sex crime.
Speaker C:It's like, you know, sex in general, it is a stigma for guys because, like, we've talked about it before, we've joked about it, like, you know, only women can be bisexual.
Speaker B:You're not wrong about that.
Speaker B:Because, because you gotta correct that.
Speaker B:You gotta correct that.
Speaker B:Only women can be bisexual and still claim heterosexual.
Speaker C:Yeah, that, that too.
Speaker B:Men can't do that.
Speaker C:Actually, I was just gonna say only women can claim to be bisexual because if a man says he's bisexual, dog, you gay.
Speaker B:That's why I said what I said.
Speaker C:That's what.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I don't care how many chicks you banging, if, if, if you touch the dude like that, you gay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, you're on the down low.
Speaker B:They have made whole shows about stuff like that.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:So am I.
Speaker B:Did I win?
Speaker C:Anybody out there?
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:No, you definitely win.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:I can't do nothing about that.
Speaker C:I can, I cannot refute that at.
Speaker B:All because there's, because we had a conversation about that about eight months ago.
Speaker B:I was like, I, I can't take you everywhere.
Speaker B:And she's like, what are you mean?
Speaker B:We're a team?
Speaker B:And say, well, yeah, that's true, but I, I, I'm not going to put you in harm's way all the time for no apparent reason.
Speaker B:Now, sometimes, you know, we have to do things because you have to do them, and it is what it is, but for elective stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, you don't need to be there, so.
Speaker B:Absolutely, man, you can't, you can't get rid of that stench, bro.
Speaker B:It's like being, it's like being a registered sex offender.
Speaker A:Well, I would say this to that, you know, I, this is just me and this is just my, like, I, I guess for me, if, if I felt, if I felt comfortable enough to share that with my family, that I was dating a white girl, and I have and I did, I'd give a fuck about anybody else or where I take her.
Speaker A:Like, I could give two shits.
Speaker A:And that's just my personal opinion.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And I'm not.
Speaker A:And I hear you about protection, but I guess for me, I'm not going anywhere where I feel like I gotta have protection.
Speaker B:Well, that's the whole thing.
Speaker B:Because even familiar situations are dangerous because you don't know.
Speaker B:What you don't know is who already knows you're dating, who you're dating and how long they've been sitting on it, seething with anger.
Speaker B:And black people have a license to call you out publicly in a really uncomfortable away.
Speaker B:And so it's just like the, you know, decorum doesn't necessarily have to be the case everywhere you are.
Speaker B:And to have her go through that for something that's not necessary is the stupidest thing ever.
Speaker B:Now, again, like I said before, some things we have to do, and we're going to do them as a couple.
Speaker B:However, if I ain't got to do it.
Speaker A:No, no, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker A:I guess my thought more or less is.
Speaker A:I mean, I probably wouldn't be going to those places either.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:Reuben, what I'm telling you is sometimes it's some of the most sacred places, meaning family, that you really need to be careful.
Speaker B:Sir.
Speaker B:You really need to be careful.
Speaker A:No, no, I hear that.
Speaker B:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker B:That's because you're.
Speaker B:You're responding to me like this stuff isn't like you're saying you don't care.
Speaker C:Ag's not saying you should care.
Speaker C:He's saying you should be.
Speaker C:Be aware.
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:No doubt.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:I guess I thought you were talking more like if you're going out and about in places where you would not normally go or you don't necessarily like, just places that.
Speaker A:That are not familiar to you.
Speaker A:That's why I think that's where I was.
Speaker A:That could have just read the room wrong, which is very possible.
Speaker B:No, no, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm talking about some of the most intimate places.
Speaker B:They were one thing before you dated a white girl.
Speaker B:There's something quite different after you do.
Speaker B:And even if you don't date her anymore, those hard feelings are still there.
Speaker B:Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker B:I'm not coming from a place where I'm like, out here, like Stephen A. Smith, like, I don't understand.
Speaker B:That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker B:But what I am saying to you is you need to be aware and to put your spouse or your partner in that position for nothing, for.
Speaker B:For an event that's an elective is not necessarily the best idea.
Speaker C:I mean, and.
Speaker C:And the truth is, you never know how your family.
Speaker C:My cousin told me this when he brought a white girl around.
Speaker C:He was like, you never know how your family feel about you being with a white girl till you bring home a white girl.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:That's when all the real shit come out.
Speaker C:Cause everybody says the right thing until that situation happens.
Speaker B:You remember that time you were relaying what Aunt Shirley said, and she just asked you, you know, why y' all gotta date these white women?
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I know.
Speaker B:Have known Aunt Shirley my entire life at a topical level.
Speaker B:And I understand how she moves at a topical level.
Speaker B:What I also know about human beings is if you.
Speaker B:You have never asked your son, who was a grown man, this question.
Speaker B:You have been sitting on this for a long time, and you probably had to get to a point to where you could ask in a tone in which it's not attacking.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Because you know how I know that?
Speaker B:Cause my mom went through the same thing.
Speaker B:She was a little bit more aggressive.
Speaker B:Cause it's like.
Speaker B:But she asked me the same thing, and it was just like.
Speaker B:And I didn't understand.
Speaker B:That was a subtle shot across the bow that I did not respond to, other than the truth, which is I wasn't trying to date white women.
Speaker B:But, I mean, you got me in the suburbs, and this is what happens.
Speaker B:So it's just like, did it erase.
Speaker C:All you black people?
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker C:Did it erase all your black dating history?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:We just discussed this.
Speaker B:I just won because of this.
Speaker C:No, no, but what I'm saying is, like, I've never understood that, because I've seen it happen in real time.
Speaker C:Like, I've seen somebody.
Speaker C:I talk with, my cousin, like, I had never seen him with anybody with black women.
Speaker C:And we've seen lots of black women.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:And then the one time white girl.
Speaker C:Oh, here he go with his white woman.
Speaker C:I'm like, yo, you do realize that he.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He didn't just start here like this.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:This is a process.
Speaker C:He got.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:This is a random.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what.
Speaker B:I will liken it.
Speaker B:This is the.
Speaker B:Okay, you're married.
Speaker B:So we're on the same page here.
Speaker B:I believe, like, in my.
Speaker B:My situation, for sure.
Speaker B:I believe in your situation also.
Speaker B:There are a lot of things that you can do and stay happily married, but there's a handful of things or one Thing you can do to erase everything that you've ever built.
Speaker B:That's what dating a white woman is like.
Speaker B:It does not matter what you did.
Speaker B:You could have dated the blackest one.
Speaker B:You could have dated Angela Day Davis.
Speaker B:I mean, it don't get no blacker than Angela Davis.
Speaker B:Even though it's funny is.
Speaker B:Is all get out because Angela Davis light skinned.
Speaker B:But we ain't.
Speaker B:That's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker B:But what I'm saying to you is you could date Angela Davis.
Speaker A:I don't know who that is.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Black power in it.
Speaker B:You know, big afro, Angela Davis black power.
Speaker B:She went to jail, went to court.
Speaker B:Okay, well, we'll come back to that.
Speaker B:Anyway, you can date the most black.
Speaker B:I mean, I mean, she could, she could be.
Speaker B:Like I said, man, I can't name.
Speaker B:I mean, you could date Cleopatra Jones black.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And if you date a white woman after that, they don't remember Cleopatra Jones.
Speaker C:Oh, that, that white deletion, man.
Speaker B:Why do you think, why do you think mobi's is blemishless?
Speaker B:Dating history is called blemishless at all.
Speaker C:Hey, there's no white out on the resume, you know?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:There's no white woman in the resume.
Speaker B:And you know what else it's like in this day and age?
Speaker B:It's like telling a woman you ain't got kids out of wedlock.
Speaker B:That's what it's like.
Speaker B:There will be women that will ask Mo B about like if he was single.
Speaker B:There will be women that will ask him about his dating history and specifically ask him about if he's dated a white woman.
Speaker B:And if he says no, they won't believe him.
Speaker B:They will absolutely not believe him.
Speaker C:Happens all the time, all day.
Speaker B:And actually I could believe in you.
Speaker B:And I know W. Brown81 might come back at me for this, but I really feel in my heart of hearts that in the back of her mind, she doesn't believe in me either.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:The idea that he's thinking about it, you probably right.
Speaker C:She's probably like he done slipped in once.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like he put his toe in the water.
Speaker B:So again, it's, it's.
Speaker B:It's harsh, man.
Speaker B:It's just harsh.
Speaker A:And that's, you know, and that's.
Speaker A:And this about to be the realest I've ever said I would have.
Speaker C:The crazy thing is I would have.
Speaker C:It just never happened.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker C:It's not like I was out here making the Conscious decision that I was just like, you know what?
Speaker C:It's black or nothing.
Speaker C:I. I'm.
Speaker C:I'm not that guy.
Speaker C:I've never been that guy.
Speaker A:But yeah, same here.
Speaker A:I'm equal opportunity all day.
Speaker A:And, you know, I'm just.
Speaker A:Even back then, you know, I really just.
Speaker A:I really just didn't give a.
Speaker A:Like, even if I'd have came home and my parents would have been the other way because they were not knocked in my face anyway.
Speaker A:And I'm very fine with that because when in my.
Speaker A:In my.
Speaker A:In my brain, I'm just like, yo, people love you or they don't.
Speaker A:And like, those who love you are willing to say the hard shit sometimes.
Speaker A:And there's been times when hard shit has been said to me from people that I love.
Speaker A:And I appreciate that.
Speaker A:Whether I agree or disagree, I appreciate the fact that hard shit was said.
Speaker A:But yeah, I am just.
Speaker A:I have always just been that I really don't care about what other people think about this subject.
Speaker A:I'm not saying that.
Speaker A:And that's probably why I will be single, because I don't care.
Speaker A:And, you know, I feel like.
Speaker A:I feel like if somebody would have put me in a position where I have to change myself and what I believe and what I believe that I'm attracted to and not.
Speaker A:And all that stuff, then I mean, to me, that shows how much they care about me.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's fine.
Speaker A:You can have your own personal beliefs about me and stuff like that, but what I'm not gonna do, and I don't think I've ever really done on some real deep shit like this, like, I've never changed how I feel about people, whether.
Speaker A:I mean, whether I dated one white girl, five white girls, 10 white girls, a Chinese girl, whatever.
Speaker A:Like, I. I am equal opportunity.
Speaker A:I don't give two shits about what anybody else thinks.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker C:Can you stop saying thanks?
Speaker C:Can you stop saying that?
Speaker C:Just say women.
Speaker C:Because dudes don't be out here caring.
Speaker A:Some dudes do.
Speaker A:Look, some dudes do you care.
Speaker A:Let's be real.
Speaker C:But they not loud about it.
Speaker C:Like, if most dudes that care about stuff, this topic, this particular topic we're talking about, some of them really don't care.
Speaker C:Some of them know, just like Ag said that if you say the right, you get some equity.
Speaker C:So if you, the black dude and you hanging out some other black women and you see a black dude walk with a white chick and you like, got another Thor, them chicks will look at you like, yeah, why?
Speaker C:See you actually.
Speaker C:You are fighting for us.
Speaker C:You ain't say that.
Speaker C:You ain't say that.
Speaker C:You just.
Speaker C:You just said what was required in the moment.
Speaker A:You know, that's the thing, man.
Speaker A:I don't even think I've ever done that.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:But here's the thing.
Speaker C:I know it's happened.
Speaker C:The fact that y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker C:Y' all thought about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, some people have done it.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:There's only one person here that's resisting that, and it ain't me.
Speaker B:I'm telling you, man.
Speaker B:I mean, look, Ruben, I appreciate.
Speaker B:There are things about you.
Speaker B:I appreciate it in a big way.
Speaker B:And your.
Speaker B:Your level of compartmentalization is one of them.
Speaker B:Now, there's a good and bad side to that, but for better or worse, I love the that about you.
Speaker B:But what I'm.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is not whether you care or not.
Speaker B:I just want you to know going forward, because the chances for you.
Speaker B:The chances are 60, 40, that you'll be with a white woman.
Speaker B:I know you well enough to know that.
Speaker B:So it's just like.
Speaker B:What I don't.
Speaker B:What I want you to see is I want you to be able to read the room outside of what you don't care about, because we're not talking about you.
Speaker B:We're talking about your spouse.
Speaker B:We're talking about your partner.
Speaker B:And to put your partner in harmony, harm's way for no reason.
Speaker B:For no reason.
Speaker B:And I include a lot of things in that no reason circle is not a good idea because especially the way the country's going right now, bruh.
Speaker B:It's not necessary now.
Speaker B:Taking your wife out to dinner, not what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:You'll never see those people again.
Speaker B:Going to a park, not what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:Never see those people again.
Speaker B:I am talking about some very intimate situations where somebody can get really angry with you, but they've been holding because they ain't seen you and your family, and then something happens and they snap and they feel like they can say what they want to say.
Speaker B:And now you put your.
Speaker B:Put your spouse or partner in a situation that can't be unheard and unsaid.
Speaker B:That's what I'm trying to help you understand.
Speaker B:Hey, every situation is not for my spouse.
Speaker B:I might show up by myself.
Speaker B:I might not go at all.
Speaker B:But I do understand, understand that's not a really good situation, sir.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:Same thing goes for.
Speaker A:For her.
Speaker B:It's just like.
Speaker B:It's a whole lot of magazine Here.
Speaker B:Is this necessary?
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker B:We're not going.
Speaker B:Or I'll go by myself.
Speaker B:With her, it's like, she ain't going.
Speaker B:She just won't go.
Speaker B:If that kind of threat is that forward, she's not going to go.
Speaker B:That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker B:You can always say what you don't care about.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying it's untrue.
Speaker B:I' saying that's just for you.
Speaker B:Well, when you're with somebody, you can't think that way.
Speaker B:You have to think in concert.
Speaker B:You have to think, okay, if I go to this place, this might happen.
Speaker B:Okay, if this might happen, is this an elective or this is a requirement.
Speaker B:If it's a requirement, just gonna have to deal with it.
Speaker B:If it's an elective, maybe I don't go.
Speaker B:Because like I said, man, it's like I'm not calling out our Shirley at all.
Speaker B:I'm saying to you, the idea that she asked you that, it's a problem for her.
Speaker B:Just like it was a problem for my mom.
Speaker B:It was a huge problem for my mom.
Speaker B:My mom don't like white girls.
Speaker B:She might like Lauren or have liked Lauren when she was living, but in general, oh, no, it's awful.
Speaker B:And the irony in all that, all the black women I dated, she couldn't stand either.
Speaker B:Apparently there was some deficiency in those too.
Speaker B:I think Muhammad just didn't like nobody I was dating.
Speaker B:But I'm telling you right now.
Speaker B:I remember I was sitting in the passenger side, I think I was about 10 years old, and my mom asked me, you know, why?
Speaker B:Why you date white girls?
Speaker B:And I was like.
Speaker B:I didn't know what to say.
Speaker B:Cuz I really didn't understand where it was coming from.
Speaker B:I was like 18, 20 years old until I really understood why and where all this was coming from.
Speaker B:It matters.
Speaker C:You should have been like, do you want me to date white boys?
Speaker B:See, you want me to get slapped?
Speaker B:No, I was not saying that, sir.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:That was good, though.
Speaker B:So again, man, you.
Speaker B:You have to understand that your.
Speaker B:Your mom's a person, but she's also a litmus test.
Speaker B:And you have to be aware.
Speaker B:You have to be aware.
Speaker C:I'm really curious as to how my mom will react.
Speaker C:Like, I know what my mom says, because my mom's like, I don't care who you at, I ain't got to sleep with him.
Speaker C:Cause my mom, my mom real cold on that game.
Speaker C:I'm like, that's a cop out.
Speaker C:See, here's the thing A. I don't know if it's a cop out, but there is a piece of me that's like part of that's a little bit of cop out.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker B:Well, see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:A little bit of a cop out.
Speaker B:Because you can.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:What she's saying is actually true, but it high.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a buffer between what I have to accept and what I feel like I don't like or do like.
Speaker B:So it's just like if.
Speaker B:Cause really when my mom led with I don't like.
Speaker B:Cause I. Shirley said that to Ruben.
Speaker B:I mean, like when.
Speaker B:When somebody leaves with, I don't have to go home with this person or I have to sleep with this person, it's a red flag to me.
Speaker B:And when I say it's a red flag, it's not really a red flag as much as it is.
Speaker B:You've told me how you feel about this situation and you don't like it because why in the world would you say something like that?
Speaker B:That's a harsh statement.
Speaker B:But people think it's a soft landing.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:It's a crash land.
Speaker B:But because you didn't come out and say, I don't like this girl and this is why, or I don't like this kid and this is why you feel like since I didn't actually say it, everything cool.
Speaker B:Cause when my mother in law said it right across me, I was in the room.
Speaker B:She's sitting next to me on my left.
Speaker B:My wife is sitting next to me on my right.
Speaker B:She said that to her, I'm in the room.
Speaker B:She already let me know what time it was.
Speaker B:But didn't she sound like Aunt Shirley?
Speaker B:Didn't she sound like my mama?
Speaker B:Didn't she sound like what Moby's mom might say?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:What does that tell you?
Speaker B:That tells you that I don't like this coon up in here.
Speaker B:You're making your life harder.
Speaker B:You could have dated all them white boys with all that money.
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker B:That's how she felt about me.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:And I get it.
Speaker B:My mom is just like, why you dealing with these white girls?
Speaker B:But I have to understand.
Speaker B:My mom was dogs and fire hydrants and water hoses and lynchings and all the things.
Speaker B:There's no way in the world I can sit here and tell you with a straight face, I don't understand where it comes from.
Speaker B:But trust and believe.
Speaker B:The dark side of that is people are angry with you, bro.
Speaker B:Angry so just be aware that I'm glad that you can compartmentalize, but stop being cute.
Speaker B:You have to think about two people.
Speaker B:And if you don't, I don't want you to lose behind this because I would rather have you lose about something that you actually knew what was.
Speaker B:What's happening.
Speaker B:But to lose because you were unaware I couldn't.
Speaker B:I don't want that for you.
Speaker B:And I'm telling you right now, you need to be aware.
Speaker B:There's a reason why your mom asked you that out of the blue one day.
Speaker B:Now you can say, but whatever.
Speaker B:But I'm telling you right now is like, people are not happy with you.
Speaker B:So just letting you know, I mean,.
Speaker A:And you know what that is their right to be happy or not happy.
Speaker A:And that's, you know, and it's.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:It's just there are some things in life that I do have a hard stop at.
Speaker A:And I feel like that my parents raised me to be pretty independent.
Speaker C:On.
Speaker A:Certain things definitely in my life, like straight up.
Speaker A:And my love life, I feel like, is one of them.
Speaker A:And you know what I mean?
Speaker A:I ain't trying to put nobody else's business out there, but it is what it is.
Speaker A:Like, if she's got an issue, that's her issue.
Speaker A:I'm, you know, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, I'm not doing all that.
Speaker A:Like, well, you don't love.
Speaker A:You don't like who I love, so I don't love you.
Speaker A:That's just that, right?
Speaker A:I ain't about that life.
Speaker A:I'm just not.
Speaker A:I'm never about that life.
Speaker A:However, I'm also not about the life of you controlling or feel like you have control over who I date, regardless of skin color or whatever.
Speaker A:Now, you know, I can like you.
Speaker A:Like you.
Speaker A:I've dated both white and black women, so it's not even a ton of me is like, I.
Speaker A:When I say I'm equal opportunity, I am.
Speaker A:I'm very equal opportunity.
Speaker A:I mean, and.
Speaker C:And honestly, talking about you, though, like, but I'm keep bringing about you.
Speaker A:Well, but all I'm saying is, like, I completely understand what he's talking about.
Speaker A:If members of the family have an issue of who I'm with, that is their issue, you know, and for me, it does come down to, you know, it'd be one difference if I brought home regardless of the color and she was like a straight up just bitch.
Speaker A:Like, that's one thing.
Speaker A:But, you know, if she's nice and all that and you don't like her color of skin, then unfortunately, that's not my problem.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And, you know, I can sit here and say, you know, that I. I get it.
Speaker A:Like, I completely get what Ag's talking about, you know, all right?
Speaker A:That's part of our family.
Speaker C:If people in your family were just, like, demonstrative about it, you could bring her around.
Speaker C:I can't, because that's what Ag is talking about.
Speaker C:He's like, why put her through it?
Speaker C:Like, who cares about how you feel about them?
Speaker C:Why put her through it?
Speaker C:To have people being demonstrative and borderline disrespectful right to her face?
Speaker C:Why put her.
Speaker A:And I guess the only thing I can say with that is,.
Speaker B:As far.
Speaker A:As I know, as far as my whole family, both my mom's side and my dad's side, that has never been an issue.
Speaker A:If somebody has an issue, then that's their issue to deal with.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, as we know, my family, you know, we.
Speaker A:That's not an issue that.
Speaker A:That has.
Speaker A:That has come up directly to us.
Speaker A:And if mom has that issue, that is mom's issue to bear.
Speaker A:Like, I can't sit here and control what she likes and what she doesn't.
Speaker C:But you can control if you put your significant other in that environment.
Speaker C:That's what I keep coming back to.
Speaker C:I get it that you're like, you don't feel like Ag was talking about, hey, be aware that those are the type of environments that could be detrimental to your significant other.
Speaker A:I guess what I'm saying is what.
Speaker C:You're saying, like, it is their problem.
Speaker C:But when you're in a relationship with somebody, that shit will quickly become your problem because she's unhappy.
Speaker A:Well, and what I will say, historically, that has not been a problem in my family.
Speaker A:Historically.
Speaker A:Now, at least.
Speaker A:Definitely, at least on one side side of the family.
Speaker A:But as far as the other side of the family, far as I know, it's not a problem.
Speaker A:But if there is a problem, it's quiet, is kept, but I don't know about it.
Speaker A:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:Like, so I wouldn't know.
Speaker A:My assumption would be it's not a problem until it happens.
Speaker A:And I mean, because I feel like family is the same safe space for me.
Speaker A:But of course, like you said, when it does not become a safe space, that's a completely different situation at that moment.
Speaker A:And I have not experienced that it not being a safe place.
Speaker A:And that's all.
Speaker A:That's my experience, and that's all I Can really say understood.
Speaker A:And my hope is.
Speaker A:And my hope is that for Ag, that has not happened to you in our family.
Speaker A:But clearly there's things I don't know.
Speaker A:So, you know.
Speaker C:Well, that's what Ag was saying.
Speaker C:Like, you.
Speaker C:You kind of don't know until you're in the situation.
Speaker C:You've been in it, but I mean, you ain't been in it marriage wise, like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because here's the thing, Dayton.
Speaker C:The whole ball game changes.
Speaker C:When you said marriage, of course.
Speaker A:But I mean.
Speaker A:But here's the thing, right?
Speaker A:If I don't feel comfortable bringing the girl I'm dating around my family like that, then, I mean, we already starting, you know, that that's the beginning to a situation.
Speaker A:And you know, the sad thing about that is it sucks that that Ag went through that, going through that, you know, on one side of his family, you know.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I only hope is.
Speaker B:Before you go on, I need to interrupt you.
Speaker B:I'm not saying the situation actually happened.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is because your family situation in real life are the same thing because they're full of human beings.
Speaker B:These things could happen.
Speaker B:And I just want you.
Speaker B:What I was saying to you is I need you to be of the situations that are the most intimate because that's where it can really hurt you.
Speaker B:Now, again, going to dinner or being in the street, whatever, you'll never see those people again.
Speaker B:And your level of compartmentalization comes in handy.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:I don't think you could survive if it happened to you in a very intimate setting, which is family.
Speaker B:Family means everything to you.
Speaker B:And it comes in a lot of different.
Speaker B:A lot of different iterations to you.
Speaker B:We are family to you.
Speaker B:Mo B is family to you.
Speaker B:And everything he's connected with that you have known for many years.
Speaker B:You and I are family because we are and you are.
Speaker B:You and I are family twice because of all of that legacy that's gone on.
Speaker B:And then there's your actual family.
Speaker B:Then there's your mom and your dad.
Speaker B:They have different relationships with you.
Speaker B:There's your brother, your brothers, and you have different relationships.
Speaker B:All of that matters to you in a way in which it doesn't necessarily matter to me.
Speaker B:So for you, it's a huge deal.
Speaker B:I would not want you, number one, to experience this and you to lose your relationship because you put her in harm's way.
Speaker B:Number two, for you to have to deal with the residue of seeing your family in a way in which you never saw them because for you to think about life as an abstract is one thing.
Speaker B:When that's real, it's a whole nother thing.
Speaker B:It's the difference between target practice and fighting a war.
Speaker B:When you shooting at somebody, like, live, you're probably gonna miss a couple times.
Speaker B:When you're shooting a target, you're 10 for 10.
Speaker B:It's different.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying that it's actually gonna happen.
Speaker B:What I'm saying to you is, because of my victory today, you really need to be aware that there are some angry women out there.
Speaker B:There are some angry people out there.
Speaker B:There's an angry community out there.
Speaker B:Cause like, when somebody says black love to me, that's a club I'll never have a membership to.
Speaker B:Even if I had.
Speaker B:Even if I ended up marrying a black woman because I dated a white woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'll never be in that club.
Speaker B:Never.
Speaker A:Very true.
Speaker A:Same here.
Speaker B:So, again, I understand that.
Speaker B:And because of that, that's all I'm trying to say.
Speaker B:I would not want you to run into that situation because it'll cost you in ways in which I don't think you understand.
Speaker B:That's all.
Speaker B:I just wanted to clear that because it's like, it's never happened to me.
Speaker B:But I'm not stupid enough to think that people aren't thinking things or maybe the potential of these thoughts being in people's minds, because my mom let me in.
Speaker B:She let me into the whole thing.
Speaker B:She was like.
Speaker B:She was asking a question because she was pissed off at me in the situation.
Speaker B:But what she did as I got older is just like, oh, you was.
Speaker B:You was putting me down on game.
Speaker B:And in that moment, she became a regular person.
Speaker B:She became another black woman who couldn't stand me because I dated a white girl.
Speaker B:The irony is, all the black women I dated, she didn't really like, you know, rah rah for them.
Speaker B:But, I mean, I guess that's a whole other podcast.
Speaker B:But what I'm telling you is she was not happy, bro.
Speaker B:And then I got heartbroken by these white women.
Speaker B:It just made it worse.
Speaker B:My mom was a real person.
Speaker B:I don't think of my mom all the time, 100% as my mother, because that excludes her from being a person.
Speaker B:No, 90% of the time, my mom was a person.
Speaker B:She was a human being with flaws.
Speaker B:But she had power because she had a son.
Speaker B:And I'm telling you, man, be aware, that was my most intimate female.
Speaker B:I mean, female relationship was my mother.
Speaker B:She could be dangerous sometimes to me personally, because the way I was set up and what she had to offer and all the things.
Speaker B:So again, I just want you to be aware because when you told us that on the show that time, I was.
Speaker B:You took me to a dark place, bro.
Speaker B:I was like, woof.
Speaker B:That's a question.
Speaker B:I mean, for you, it's just a question.
Speaker B:For me, I was thinking all kinds of things.
Speaker B:I was like, yeah.
Speaker A:Cause that's not my experience, unfortunately.
Speaker A:Or fortunately, whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's just not my experience.
Speaker A:And I mean, you know, so far, you know, the history shows in the family that that's not gonna be an issue.
Speaker A:However, everybody's different.
Speaker A:And I understand that.
Speaker A:And you know, I think that, I mean, you're right.
Speaker A:I would never put someone I love in any harmed way whatsoever.
Speaker A:Cause that's not, that's not how things are done.
Speaker A:However, I guess my thing is, you know, it really just comes.
Speaker A:It comes down to my comfortability with the situation and those other people in the situation at all.
Speaker A:Because look, when it's all said and done, I mean, we love who we love and we pick who we pick.
Speaker A:And you're supposed to ride with that person until.
Speaker A:Until the wheels fall.
Speaker A:You know, you can only hope that that happens with you.
Speaker A:I mean, or anybody really.
Speaker A:And so like, yeah, you know, it sucks.
Speaker A:All of it sucks.
Speaker A:But, you know, my hope is, regardless of the things that my family loves and hates about me, that shouldn't matter, you know, when it comes to who I pick and how I, you know, as long as I'm not moving in a negative way with them, obviously.
Speaker A:But yeah, I mean, if it came down to that and I noticed there was danger, I would definitely take them out of that.
Speaker A:You know, I'm just saying, historically, that has not been my experience by any means.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:I guess that's why I'm a little bit more determined in my view that, you know, I do what I want on certain matters.
Speaker A:And if that's not what you rock with, that's kind of you problem.
Speaker A:And this is one of those matters.
Speaker A:But no, I appreciate it, definitely.
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Speaker C:All right, so it's an easy one for me.
Speaker C:So women killed love music, but love.
Speaker B:Music is about them.
Speaker C:That's why they killed it, Ag.
Speaker B:Oh, please explain, sir.
Speaker C:All right, so hear me out.
Speaker C:Hear me out.
Speaker C: s, early: Speaker C:And I'm just like, man, why do these songs make me feel so good?
Speaker C:And then it hit me, because they were talking about being in love, and that don't happen in modern music on the radio no more.
Speaker C:It's always women talking about these niggas.
Speaker C:Ain't that dude hurt them?
Speaker C:I'm better off by myself.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And then the dudes that they like ain't talking about loving them.
Speaker C:They're talking about them.
Speaker C:They like all the dudes when the dudes are talking about them, not loving them.
Speaker C:It used to be the word love used to happen in R B music.
Speaker C:You can listen to the radio late at night for an hour, and they're playing modern R B music.
Speaker C:And you might not hear the word love one time.
Speaker C:It can go six, seven songs in a row.
Speaker C:You might not hear.
Speaker C:Hear love one time.
Speaker C:You might hear.
Speaker C:You might hear love in.
Speaker C:In reference to sex.
Speaker C:But the idea of, like, love that dead man love music.
Speaker C:Women kill love music, man.
Speaker B:Winner and still champion.
Speaker C:Here's that even.
Speaker C:Even like the boy band.
Speaker C:The boy band era is.
Speaker C:Is where the transition happened.
Speaker B:That's what they were all about, about love then, right?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:But here's the thing.
Speaker C:There was a transition that happened Ag.
Speaker C:Because, you know, you had your.
Speaker C:Your new kids on the block, your new addition.
Speaker C:You know, that was.
Speaker C:That was all like the Teeny Bob love.
Speaker C:Then you had your boys to men.
Speaker C:You know, you're baby facing it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Your face and all them.
Speaker C:And then there was a.
Speaker C:A switch that happened.
Speaker C:Jodeci came, and Jodeci was like a fringe because they were talking about love, too.
Speaker C:But that's when they would transition also talking about Bucket.
Speaker C:And then next Thing you know, people ain't trying to see Boys to Men no more.
Speaker C:And it's like, yo, as far as some dudes and singing about love and doing it in.
Speaker C:In the most harmonizing way ever.
Speaker C:Like, when Boys to Men stopped being mainstream, it was just like, oh, it's over with y. Y' all basically just said, no, we.
Speaker C:We don't.
Speaker C:We don't want to hear about that love, man.
Speaker C:Like, we want to hear.
Speaker C:Hear you saying, freak you.
Speaker C:I want.
Speaker C:How.
Speaker C:How can you get me wet in this song?
Speaker C:Like, not.
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker C:Not through love.
Speaker C:Not through love.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker C:We want the physical act because we need you to talk about how much you want to have sex with us in this song.
Speaker C:So then when we make our R B music, we can take up how all you ain't.
Speaker C:And you were just using me to me because that's what the music like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Every time the modern R B chick is on the radio, I'm just depressed, and I'm just like, yo, depression is an epidemic, and music is causing it.
Speaker C:Like, I used to think it was the other way around.
Speaker C:Like, hey, these artists are just reflecting life.
Speaker C:But I'm just like, nah, man.
Speaker C:They're teenagers out here who ain't never dated before, but they're hearing all this music about niggas ain't being.
Speaker C:And they just like, hey, these ain't.
Speaker C:So you ain't even.
Speaker C:You ain't even talk to one yet.
Speaker B:I already said Reuben Winner is still champion.
Speaker B:What you think of this, man?
Speaker A:I mean, I can't beat that.
Speaker B:I'm listening to it, like, similar to.
Speaker A:What I was going to talk about, man.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:Okay, okay.
Speaker B:I'll ask you a really specific question.
Speaker B:Where does I want to sex you up?
Speaker B:Come into playing all this because calling Me Bad was right in that transition.
Speaker C:That was the transition.
Speaker B:So that was one of the transition songs, too.
Speaker C:See, here's the thing.
Speaker C:There was a point in time on the radio where I'll make love to you.
Speaker C:Like, I'll make love to you.
Speaker A:I swear.
Speaker C:Knocking boots and I swear we're on the same rotation.
Speaker B:You're not wrong.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So you had all aspects of love.
Speaker C:See, that's.
Speaker C:That's what happened.
Speaker C:It used to be, you know, the lust part was.
Speaker C:Was prevalent in the music.
Speaker C:It always was there.
Speaker C:But there used to also be some love part in there as well.
Speaker B:But wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker B:Let me go backwards a little bit.
Speaker B:Didn't.
Speaker B:But Mary J.
Speaker B:Never really talked about love.
Speaker B:She talked about, like, drama.
Speaker B:She talked About a lot of, huh.
Speaker C:Transition.
Speaker C:But that was like.
Speaker B:Like almost like late 80s, early, early 90s, though.
Speaker C:See?
Speaker C:See?
Speaker C:See?
Speaker C:No, when you say Mary J. Blige,.
Speaker A:That was middle 90s, the thing.
Speaker C:Middle 90s, when you say Mary J. Bl.
Speaker C:But when you say Mary J. Blige, like, didn't talk about love.
Speaker C:She kind of did.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She sang.
Speaker C:You Remind Me.
Speaker C:Like, there was a whole bunch of, like, earlier songs where it was like, okay, there's.
Speaker C:There's a little bit of love in there.
Speaker C:But then it got to the.
Speaker C:No more drama.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:And then it was just like.
Speaker C:But you've been talking about drama ever since.
Speaker C:Like, like, it's just.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like Brian McKnight on his one last cry, then he cried the rest of his career.
Speaker C:It's like, come on, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker A:Cause like.
Speaker A:Like, Mary J.
Speaker A:Was like dudes who are called Captain Sabo.
Speaker A:It was women who wanted to save.
Speaker A:Who wanted to turn that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:That bad boy into a good husband.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:And she went through the trials and tribulations, relations of that, trying to do that.
Speaker A:Because back then, unfortunately, a lot of women were trying to do that.
Speaker A:They're trying to take this.
Speaker A:This guy who ain't and turn him into the greatest husband ever.
Speaker A:Because women control men, and they think they could do that, and they couldn't.
Speaker A:And her shit's all about the trial tribulations with that.
Speaker A:Because you're right.
Speaker C:But I'm gonna get pushback on Mary J. Blige.
Speaker C:We not about to drag Mary J. Blige as is what the modern R B woman is.
Speaker C:Because Mary J. Blige talked about drama and bad, but she also talked about, like, the overcoming the.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The growth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, she.
Speaker C:She did have dynamics to it.
Speaker C:Like, it was at the beginning.
Speaker A:She talked about real love.
Speaker C:It was a whole.
Speaker C:Still depressing, but it still, like, had dynamics.
Speaker C:Like, now the shit's just depressing.
Speaker C:There's no dynamic to it.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker B:She was talking about real, Real love.
Speaker B:She started out with real love.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:And then she went through the purposes of trying to change him, to turn him into shit.
Speaker A:And then she realized that she can't turn him into shit.
Speaker A:Then I gotta live for me, she.
Speaker C:Should have left his ass a long time ago.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:How did this turn into Mary J. Blige?
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker B:All I'm saying, it was just a reference, sir.
Speaker A:And that's why Moby is right, though.
Speaker A:He is so right.
Speaker A:Because at What?
Speaker A:Mary J.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She coming out with the New York.
Speaker A:With the New York jerseys on, dancing.
Speaker C:Real love.
Speaker A:There is no more drama.
Speaker A:And he ain't.
Speaker A:And he did this to me.
Speaker A:And then I gotta recover, so I need to heal myself.
Speaker A:And now I'm a new independent woman and all this other.
Speaker A:He wins.
Speaker B:I gotta.
Speaker B:Got a question, though.
Speaker B:I feel like women.
Speaker B:If you really want to sell a record, if.
Speaker B:Have somebody write lyrics that are negative because women gravitate towards all the.
Speaker B:All the nasty, bad things.
Speaker B:But when you put out something like, my man is cool, it's like, oh, you a pick me.
Speaker A:What I mean, is that true or is it true?
Speaker A:Somebody else in there?
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker A:Keisha Cole, baby.
Speaker A:Keisha Cole made a curiosity talking about dudes and how they.
Speaker B:She did a good job too, because I really like you.
Speaker C:Look, man, yo, the.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The industry realized, you know what?
Speaker C:There's a lot of sad women.
Speaker C:We can capitalize on this.
Speaker C:Like, let's just list.
Speaker C:That is the target audience.
Speaker C:The target audience is sad women and women who are okay with being mistreated for some dick.
Speaker A:He ain't wrong.
Speaker B:Is he?
Speaker B:Ever.
Speaker B:I'm laughing because he's never wrong.
Speaker B:I mean, he's.
Speaker B:He right.
Speaker B:He right.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, man, like.
Speaker C:And it makes me mad, man, because, like, yo, I can think about female artists that used to sing about love.
Speaker C:Like, Leah sang about love.
Speaker C:But it was dynamics.
Speaker C:Like, you know, she.
Speaker C:Everything wasn't, oh, I love you, but, like, there was some love songs in there.
Speaker C:Tamia.
Speaker C:We had sh.
Speaker C:Like, it was just so many.
Speaker A:Like, you could just last long.
Speaker C:You could just listen to, like, music.
Speaker A:And, like, you could feel goddamn happy about love.
Speaker A:It was full.
Speaker B:You know, that.
Speaker B:That hate that Ruben putting out right now is absolutely true, man.
Speaker B:That's the.
Speaker B:That's why I asked the question.
Speaker B:I just feel like women gravitates towards you.
Speaker B:Ain't nothing more than they gravitate towards.
Speaker B:My man is great.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And he treats me real really well.
Speaker B:I. I don't think that they like hearing that.
Speaker A:Ain't no song in that.
Speaker A:That's just like.
Speaker B:But it's a great song.
Speaker B:There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker A:There's a reason why Will Smith is the only happy rapper out there.
Speaker B:He is never gonna live this day.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, man.
Speaker C:Bro, why this man catches strays, man.
Speaker C:There are a lot of happy rappers, like, who.
Speaker B:Like, who don't make.
Speaker A:Who make money like Will.
Speaker C:There are a lot of happy rappers.
Speaker B:A.
Speaker C:Because all those dudes who making all Them strip club rap songs, they sound happy in them songs, man, and you know that.
Speaker B:Stop it, stop it, stop it.
Speaker A:That's a different type of money.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:That's a different type of happy, sir.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker C:They be happy as hell in them songs.
Speaker A:Mike Jones.
Speaker A:They talking about being married and in strip club.
Speaker B:Look, man, two chains moment.
Speaker C:Two chain sound happy as hell to tell you about his problem.
Speaker C:He loves bad bitches.
Speaker C:His problem.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:What are we doing?
Speaker A:They're probably gonna leave in 30 minutes.
Speaker B:Once.
Speaker C:Once again, like, I'm saying, like, there's some happy artists out there.
Speaker C:They just.
Speaker C:They're just not women.
Speaker C:They just.
Speaker A:I mean, and I really want to put it.
Speaker C:I feel a lot like there's got to be at least one chick out there who's making music right now.
Speaker C:Like, I listen like a.
Speaker C:Like a summer walk.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker C:Like, literally, her.
Speaker A:They making music, but they ain't making money.
Speaker C:Summer.
Speaker C:Summer Walker's whole album is pretty much just like these niggas.
Speaker C:But, like, I know at some point in time, she's got to be in the studio.
Speaker C:Like, but this nigga's a height, though.
Speaker C:Like, this.
Speaker C:This one is okay, though.
Speaker A:Like,.
Speaker B:Does she have to do that, though?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:I'm not saying for him.
Speaker C:I'm not saying she will say.
Speaker C:But at some point in time, she's got to be in the studio being like, you know what?
Speaker C:What, man?
Speaker C:I'm not depressed all the time.
Speaker C:Like, I'm just not.
Speaker C:Is it that she at least have a moment of happiness, man?
Speaker C:She smiles.
Speaker A:Nobody has made more money.
Speaker C:Can't be artistic, but nobody had made.
Speaker A:More money from depression than Mary J. Blige.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I can't argue that, sir.
Speaker B:I can't argue that.
Speaker B:Had made more money like a single artist.
Speaker B:I. I don't think.
Speaker B:I think he's a champion.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:Think she's a champion, actually.
Speaker B:It's winner and still champion.
Speaker A:I mean, yo, and I say I keep bringing up these names because, hey, man, some of their songs are really, really good.
Speaker A:But when you start listening to the words, none of that is positive about dudes.
Speaker A:I either lost a dude or he ain't or whatever, but there's none.
Speaker A:Oh, my dude was great today.
Speaker A:I love my dude.
Speaker C:Yeah, I can.
Speaker C:I can sum the female artist thing up with the Beyonce effect.
Speaker C:Beyonce made some.
Speaker C:Some quality love songs.
Speaker C:She made.
Speaker C:She the.
Speaker C:You go to her album quality ones up there.
Speaker C:But when she dropped that Lemonade album, saying that was real.
Speaker B:You talking about hating white women for real.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Listen.
Speaker B:Wait a Minute hating white women.
Speaker B:I thought Lemonade was about hating white women.
Speaker A:Well, the Becky witch Becky with the good hair.
Speaker B:That's where that came from.
Speaker A:Yep, bro.
Speaker B:Cuz I've never listened to.
Speaker B:I've never listened to it before.
Speaker A:She put that out on lemonade.
Speaker C:She dropped lemonade and all these was like, it's about time you start speaking.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker B:So wait a minute.
Speaker B:Jay Z was cheating on her with a white girl?
Speaker A:Skyrocketing.
Speaker B:Jay Z was cheating on her with a white girl.
Speaker A:Jay Z cheated with a white girl.
Speaker A:That's the world.
Speaker C:Here's the thing.
Speaker C:I don't know or care, but I think it's the greatest marketing strategy ever because she, she tapped into the market.
Speaker C:She said, you know what?
Speaker C:These women hate men.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:Also they also hate.
Speaker C:They hate a man that cheats on a black woman with a white woman.
Speaker B:I did not know that.
Speaker C:She went draw two, draw four and reverse.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:She bow, bow wow got your ass.
Speaker A:And you didn't say uno, two more.
Speaker B:I did not know that.
Speaker B:But why was it be Becky with the good hair if she's a white girl though?
Speaker B:Cuz, I mean by default white women have.
Speaker A:It ain't too.
Speaker A:It ain't too many black girls named Rebecca.
Speaker C:Like I said.
Speaker B:Hair.
Speaker C:Yeah, just a reference.
Speaker C:Better call Becky with the good hair.
Speaker B:I understood.
Speaker B:Understood.
Speaker B:I just learned something.
Speaker A:Yo, man, I'm just, I'm just saying.
Speaker C:The beyond the Beyonce effect is like that.
Speaker C:That proves it right there.
Speaker C:Cuz like, she was already the number one.
Speaker C:She was already on top.
Speaker C:She drops lemonade and it's like, oh, bitch,.
Speaker A:Bro.
Speaker A:Cuz at that point in time, everybody was loving her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Except a small group of people didn't really.
Speaker A:They loved her, but they didn't like love her.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:After this shit, the Beehive went crazy.
Speaker C:See, here's the thing.
Speaker C:It's not that they didn't love her because her Beyonce's fans loved her, but what it was, it was when she dropped that Lemonade album.
Speaker C:Now she became relatable to them because at first when, when she was like, if you like, you should have put a ring on, you know, she's showing off her big ass rock to Jay Z. Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like these women are like, hey, we love you because you're like dreams, you know, you're the goal.
Speaker C:But like, we can't relate to you.
Speaker C:But you start talking about a cheating on you.
Speaker C:Oh, you can come over now.
Speaker C:We, we cool.
Speaker C:We on the same level now.
Speaker A:Yeah, and here's the thing.
Speaker C:You mean your man.
Speaker C:You mean yo, good ass man from.
Speaker C:From what we see your good ass man doing the same Reggie doing.
Speaker B:Yeah, he said Reggie.
Speaker A:He got a name too, man.
Speaker B:Reggie, man.
Speaker A:Stop it.
Speaker B:So wait a minute.
Speaker A:So I mean, he called her Beck, she called her Becky.
Speaker B:So you mean to tell me this?
Speaker B:She's not relatable.
Speaker B: d you know, Bonnie and Clyde,: Speaker C:No, no, no, it's not that she wasn't relatable.
Speaker C:She was a goal.
Speaker B:She was a goal, okay?
Speaker C:When she did lemonade, now she's relatable.
Speaker B:So that's that sliver of demographic that couldn't rock with her because her life was seemingly perfect.
Speaker B:Now that it's imperfect, I see you now.
Speaker A:You know what also happened?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Ticket sales went up to a thousand dollar a goddamn ticket.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, when you're relatable, people want to relate to you.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:She was selling out.
Speaker B:Yeah, she was craziness crazy.
Speaker C:Like I said, man, like, women kill love music, man.
Speaker C:And look, ladies, if you feel some type of way about it, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm just as mad as you should be.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm just the mad about.
Speaker C:As you should because look, love music was important to dudes.
Speaker C:You know why I was important?
Speaker C:Because they were saying all the.
Speaker C:That we didn't want to say, but we could throw that on.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker C:And you know, he's saying it for me.
Speaker B:There's nothing like a good get back in for real.
Speaker C:Yo, man.
Speaker B:Baby face.
Speaker A:Baby face.
Speaker B:But that was in the 80s and 90s.
Speaker B:You can't use those.
Speaker B:Like you said, there's no more new ones, Ag.
Speaker C:But Ag, this is the Baby Face effect.
Speaker C:Is.
Speaker C:Is important though.
Speaker B:No, no, I'm not saying.
Speaker B:I'm not saying it's not important.
Speaker C:Face was writing a lot of songs for people that were becoming big because he was always focusing on the man part of relationships, which is apologizing.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:Hey, look, that is our point.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:In line.
Speaker C:In line.
Speaker C:Because it's important to lie.
Speaker C:Because you gotta say I'll never keep a secret, girl I'll never tell a lot.
Speaker A:And Ag.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:If you sit here and tell me today, if you play the Babyface song, talking about I'll pay your rent, I'll cook your dinner too soon as I get home from work.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Reuben, don't work, man.
Speaker B:Wait Hear me out, Hear me out, hear me out.
Speaker C:It won't work today, Reuben.
Speaker C:It won't work.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:I feel.
Speaker B:Feel like we're old guys saying old stuff will work, man.
Speaker B:We're old guys, bro.
Speaker B:No, man, that's like, that's like, that's like.
Speaker C:That'll work for an age group of demographic that we should be talking to, but like the modern chick.
Speaker C:No, I don't want to hear all that.
Speaker B:That's almost like when.
Speaker B:When we were in our 20s.
Speaker B:Is Barry White really a get back in song?
Speaker B:It's not, bro.
Speaker B:That's something my.
Speaker B:Our dads would play for our moms to get back in, man.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker B:I don't know if it's going to be effective.
Speaker B:And the thing is, the reason why that's so important to me based on what we're talking about is like Mo said, there's nothing like that out here right now.
Speaker A:I'm surprised nobody's covered that shit.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:It's a song that no one can relate to.
Speaker B:Everybody's talking about either boning or you ain't nothing.
Speaker B:I mean, man, the genders are really, really either nonchalant and aloof or they just hate.
Speaker A:But here's the thing.
Speaker A:I promise you.
Speaker C:I'm just telling you, we need it, man.
Speaker C:Like ladies.
Speaker A:I'm telling you, if Chris Brown remade that song, shit's over.
Speaker B:I hope he does, because that's what.
Speaker B:That's what it's gonna take.
Speaker B:I agree with you.
Speaker B:And that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker B:But as is.
Speaker B:As is.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker C:Chris Brown is the only person right now that could save R and B music but won't.
Speaker C:And the reason he won't.
Speaker A:He wants to be a rapper.
Speaker C:He makes too much money keeping the same image, like, because he's.
Speaker C:Oh, he's almost a fucking unicorn.
Speaker C:Because, like, he can sing, he can dance, and it's not.
Speaker C:But that's not why he's a unicorn.
Speaker C:He can sing, he can dance, he.
Speaker C:He's a hybrid now because he's got all the tattoos, but he still got a baby face.
Speaker C:So he still kind of looks like he Kobe Bryant.
Speaker C:He still looks like the cute, cute, innocent, sweet kid, but you know he'll whoop a ass.
Speaker B:So it's like, I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker C:So he's.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Can you come back from that and do a love song for real?
Speaker C:Everything.
Speaker B:But Kenny though, he beat the tour out of Rihanna, man.
Speaker B:Can you come back?
Speaker C:He already has made love songs.
Speaker C:And they, they were Pretty deep, really.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:He beat the.
Speaker A:Out of Rihanna in a car, and he still has a career.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's impressive.
Speaker B:He didn't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, people can say what they want.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But that's what the happened in that vehicle.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And this is.
Speaker B:This is riri.
Speaker B:We're talking about a career.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:We know that that happened.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Women are going to go to this Usher Chris Brown concert and be willing to commit homage.
Speaker C:Get on that stage, bros.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:They will back.
Speaker A:They will back up Mercury Boulevard when those are here.
Speaker C:But like I said, like I said, man.
Speaker C:That's why he could save R B music.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He could make a whole love app where all he did was just talk about love and his truest form.
Speaker C:And these women would be like, but he can do that, and he's the only one that can do it right now.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker C:Everybody else, that will be considered lame as truth.
Speaker A:And Moby just brought up Usher.
Speaker A:Hey, you cheated on Chili and had a baby by another woman, and you still got a career.
Speaker C:You know, I think it's Mary J.
Speaker A:Been talking about.
Speaker B:I think it's a little different when you put your hands on somebody.
Speaker B:You cheated.
Speaker C:First of all, that whole.
Speaker C:That whole you cheated on Chili thing, man, that's.
Speaker C:That's something simple that, like, can't pull a bitch like that, say, because it's like, yo, it's Usher.
Speaker C:He sees Chili's everywhere he goes.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, I'm just.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, like, I'm not condoning it.
Speaker C:I'm simply saying for us.
Speaker C:Us to have.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, like, Reuben, if you cheated on Jelly.
Speaker A:First of all, if I cheated on Jelly, I deserve never to get any more the rest of my life.
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Because I ain't nowhere near that level.
Speaker C:I would be very disturbed.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, based on what's happening, I kind of understand based on what's happening now.
Speaker B:I think that played out pretty well for Usher.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Whole nother podcast, sir.
Speaker B:Whole nother.
Speaker A:A whole nother album and a Vegas joint.
Speaker A:Come on, man.
Speaker B:Like this.
Speaker A:Yeah, he won.
Speaker B:He did in so many ways, right?
Speaker C:Like, it's different when we talking about, like, physical violence towards a woman.
Speaker C:Like, and the thing is, the reason I specified that we know that that happened, like, because we.
Speaker C:There have been allegations on lots of people that as long as their allegation and there's no hardline proof, there's always going to be a contingency of people.
Speaker C:That's like, I don't necessarily believe that.
Speaker C:Or she could be.
Speaker A:And we saw her face because people.
Speaker C:Want to do that.
Speaker C:But, like, we saw her face and it was like, not only did we see her face, we didn't really get any definitive.
Speaker C:I didn't do that from Chris Brown.
Speaker C:It was all like, hey,.
Speaker A:He just said nothing.
Speaker A:He lied.
Speaker A:He just said nothing to see.
Speaker C:No, actually, I think.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:If I'm not mistaken, I think he doubled down and was showing, like, scratches on his face that she got.
Speaker C:So it's like, cool, Cool.
Speaker C:Maybe she was fighting you too, but.
Speaker A:She got a black eye.
Speaker C:You still.
Speaker A:It hurt.
Speaker C:Once again, we've talked about this equal opportunity thing before.
Speaker C:We don't know what happened in that car.
Speaker C:Maybe that chick went solely crazy and just started attacking him while he was driving.
Speaker C:So he had to put punch her in the eye to be like, sit your ass down so we don't die.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:That didn't happen.
Speaker C:But what I do know happened is.
Speaker B:He punched her eye.
Speaker C:He hit her.
Speaker C:And we know that happened as long as that happened.
Speaker C:And he still has a career.
Speaker C:Like you said, that's.
Speaker C:He's a hybrid now because now it's like, he's a bad boy.
Speaker C:That we know.
Speaker C:Like, every chick looks at him.
Speaker C:I should say every chick.
Speaker C:There's a lot of chicks that look at him and think, I love you.
Speaker C:Love him, because he's a sweet guy that'll slap the out of me if I get out of line.
Speaker C:And for some chicks, apparently, they're cool with the idea of that.
Speaker B:That's the turn on.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I think that's offensive, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker C:But hey, you know, it's.
Speaker A:No, I get down.
Speaker A:That's how you get down.
Speaker C:I'm not condoning domestic violence, and I'm not saying some women are asking for.
Speaker C:I'm simply saying the women who, like, put this type of.
Speaker C:Type of person on a pedestal.
Speaker C:It's like, two things can't be true at the same time.
Speaker C:You can't be like, hey, I'm for women's rights, and I'm for, like, you know, not having domestic abuse.
Speaker C:But that Chris Brown sure could get it.
Speaker C:Like, it's like, no, you can't do both.
Speaker C:You shouldn't be allowed to do both.
Speaker B:You just gave me, like, three intros to choose from,.
Speaker A:Chris Brown.
Speaker B:I sure can't get it.
Speaker C:I'm just saying you shouldn't do both, man.
Speaker C:Like, I I can't.
Speaker C:I can't be the only one that sees a problem with that.
Speaker C:Like, I don't have a problem.
Speaker A:Oh, no, that's a problem.
Speaker C:I don't have a problem with any woman that supports him.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker C:And if you.
Speaker C:You're a fan, you love his music, you love Chris, I have no problem with that.
Speaker C:But you can't then be the person that's like, these ain't.
Speaker C:You can't like it.
Speaker C:It don't work.
Speaker B:But they can.
Speaker B:They can.
Speaker B:You already know they can.
Speaker B:Why are you saying this?
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They shouldn't be able to.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Words matter, sir.
Speaker C:And my logical processing ability will not allow me to put myself in position to feel like this is okay.
Speaker A:So before we continue on the chat.
Speaker A:Well, KO is like the little thing.
Speaker A:Things about lmi, it's a pro good man song.
Speaker A:And you're right, she's only one artist.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:Well, here's the thing.
Speaker A:I know who LMA is.
Speaker C:One song.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you're right.
Speaker B:Is it LMA or lmi?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker C:The fact, the fact that.
Speaker C:The fact that we'd have to cram our brains together for a while to find some modern love song that's played.
Speaker B:Last five or six years, it's kind of a problem.
Speaker C:My point.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're not wrong, sir.
Speaker B:They're kind of a problem.
Speaker B:Like you said.
Speaker C: ped this comment back in like: Speaker C:Like, the whole Billboard chart is just.
Speaker A:So lonely.
Speaker A:Fun Size loves that song, apparently.
Speaker A:And then KB icon said that new CB crack fallen might be attempt trying to R and B.
Speaker A:Trying to R B thing.
Speaker A:I don't know what he's talking about because I don't listen to that dude anymore.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And that's a whole history.
Speaker A:Another podcast.
Speaker C:Chris Brown can save R and B music, but I just know he won't do it.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I'm sad if he's the only one that's got to save it.
Speaker C:Like, I. I really.
Speaker C:I really can't think of any artist that I feel like right now could just come out and just say it.
Speaker C:I'mma commit to like, making an uplifting, positive record like Food.
Speaker C:And I'm just like.
Speaker C:And people might like it.
Speaker C:There might be a lot of people that like it.
Speaker C:I just don't think it's going to make any goddamn money, which is, why are you doing it?
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:And then really?
Speaker A: the problem is Snoop Dogg in: Speaker A:And as long as that will live, you may think about saying making a song like that, but then your boy is going to play Bitches ain't shit, butt hoes and tricks.
Speaker A:And that's the one and only song you gonna have on your album.
Speaker A:As far as something about love, there.
Speaker C:Used to be separation though, man.
Speaker C:Like look, it used to be no and what I mean by that, like hip hop music has always been derogatory towards women.
Speaker C:There's just no getting around it.
Speaker C:Like, I'm not gonna sit here and try to justify my holier than thou stance that I just took about the whole you can't not like Chris, you can't like Chris Brown and be like four women's role.
Speaker C:And I'm over here listening to like, you know, shake your ass like your friend.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm here for that too.
Speaker C:But there used to be separation.
Speaker C:I used to be able to listen to Uncle Luke track and then be like, oh, there women around.
Speaker C:Let me put this boys to minute.
Speaker C:I'm just saying I used to have music that I could.
Speaker C:There used to be some safety in music.
Speaker C:I used to be able to drive in the car and my mom was about to get in the car and I could change my playlist to some like other that was still popular in the time.
Speaker C:Now I'm just like, if my mom gets in the car like she did today, I had to put on my old school playlist.
Speaker C:I'm just like, hey, I, I can't have her out here listening to, you know, the heathen of her son, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:She, she don't need, she don't need to know what I'm rocking.
Speaker A:For real, bro.
Speaker B:I think she already knows.
Speaker B:I think she already knows.
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:She listens to the show, but she don't need to see my inner monologue at play.
Speaker C:Real life like right beside me, bro.
Speaker B:While my kids in the car too.
Speaker A:When my parents in the car, I turn on the Motown.
Speaker B:Motown, you know, Spotify, Motown.
Speaker A:I know that's, I know that shit's safe.
Speaker A:And then I watch Hitsville.
Speaker A:Then I watch Hitsville, man, and I realize some of that shit ain't safe.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm listening to Prince, you know, I'm driving around, I put on my Prince playlist and I, and I'M just like.
Speaker C:I mean, there's some risky stuff in Prince, but, like, she can't say shit about it because this is her music.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:That's a contemporary.
Speaker C:This is of her time.
Speaker C:So she gonna say something about it.
Speaker C:Hey, like, hey, hey.
Speaker B:This was.
Speaker C:You put me on game,.
Speaker A:Yo.
Speaker A:Like the.
Speaker A:Like, once.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:One time I'll say this, then I'll.
Speaker A:I'll go with mine real quick because mine's super quick.
Speaker A:Mom in the car.
Speaker A:And we were listening to Motown joint, and Cloud 9 came on by the Temptations.
Speaker A:And I was like.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I kind of was.
Speaker A:I was talking to.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:Used to listen to this.
Speaker A:Cuz if you're not aware Cloud 9,.
Speaker C:I know you was getting like that, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, it was easy, you know?
Speaker A:And it really is like a two and a half minute song.
Speaker A:But half the half the song was, we're getting high on cloud nine.
Speaker A:And it's like, wow.
Speaker A:Just let everybody know you smoke weed all day.
Speaker A:Like, what we doing?
Speaker C:And she was like, I believe the term.
Speaker C:What does that mean?
Speaker C:Was reefer.
Speaker A:She's like, what does that mean?
Speaker B:Actually, it could have been grass.
Speaker B:It could have been grass.
Speaker C:Grass is appropriate.
Speaker C:I'll allow it.
Speaker B:I'll allow it.
Speaker A:She was like, what does that mean?
Speaker A:I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker A:What does that mean?
Speaker A:That mean this.
Speaker A:When y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:When people doing weed back in the day.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:She was like, oh.
Speaker A:I mean, I ain't know.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:I just gave her that side eye.
Speaker A:Look.
Speaker A:You ain't got a lot of me.
Speaker B:You gave your mama the side eye, bro, for that.
Speaker B:You gave us your little side eye.
Speaker A:I'm driving like this, man.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:She got the side out hard, man.
Speaker B:I was just like, come on, man, you can't.
Speaker B:What you not gonna do is lie to me about this.
Speaker A:Like, I understand, mom, that you may not drink and all that stuff, but you want 30.
Speaker A:It's like, stuff.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure stuff got down a little bit differently back in the day, you know?
Speaker A:Don't.
Speaker A:Don't try.
Speaker A:You ain't got.
Speaker A:Look, I love you.
Speaker A:You ain't got a lot of me.
Speaker C:I appreciate your mom for maintaining her class in that moment.
Speaker A:She sure did.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She was like, I don't know what you talking about.
Speaker A:I was like, I don't know what you talking about.
Speaker B:I mean, straight, too, man.
Speaker A:It was just like, Like.
Speaker A:Like somebody put a bob on here and said, don't lie.
Speaker A:And I was just like, really, Mom?
Speaker A:That's what we don't we doing this right here.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm gonna let you do that.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So the funny part about mine is very similar to movies, so it should be very quick and so I don't have an answer to this.
Speaker A:This is just from perception.
Speaker A:Cuz I have not experienced this.
Speaker A:Now my belief is that being married makes a man lose all of his emotions.
Speaker B:Okay, explain that.
Speaker A:So like, so like right now I'm a very emotional person.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:Left, right, up, down.
Speaker A:Everybody knows I'm emotional.
Speaker A:You know, I was watching the pit today and I had a couple tears for no reason.
Speaker A:Kind of annoying, but it is what.
Speaker B:Watching that show that I wouldn't agree with that, but okay.
Speaker A:Well no, because it made me think about something else that happened back in the day for me, I'm sure.
Speaker A:And that made me tear up and I was not hospital stuff.
Speaker A:It was just, it's a different thing.
Speaker A:So, so yeah, and I was just like.
Speaker A:Because I always hear, you know, you know, you know when you, when you're married, you just, you kind of just go through the motions, you know.
Speaker A:Yes, dear.
Speaker A:No dear.
Speaker A:Mostly yes dear.
Speaker A:And you know, it almost seems like men become emotionless the longer they're in a marriage, you know.
Speaker A:And I have a lot of friends, a lot of family who is married and you know, as always, yeah, you should get married.
Speaker A:But no, you really don't.
Speaker A:Because all this happened.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:So that's, that was my thing today.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker A:Because I'm super emotional and I do fear like if I were to get married, it would change me on a fundamental level because as a, as being a, you know, zodiac sign cancer, I am extremely emotional.
Speaker A:So like unfortunately, like.
Speaker C:Reference before that was, was, that was wild to hear you.
Speaker A:So this goes.
Speaker A:Hey man, just cuz I don't talk, but I don't mean I don't know about it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's my point today.
Speaker C:I, I'll, I, I'll give my, my statement on this.
Speaker C:Since it's just us talking.
Speaker C:Nobody's gonna hear this.
Speaker B:It's about to be the opening Jo.
Speaker C:Saying it's just us, you know, nobody, nobody here, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:But it's, it's not that marriage makes men emotionless.
Speaker C:Marriage makes men aware.
Speaker C:And what I mean by aware is like right now, Ruben, you have the luxury of feeling like your emotions matter.
Speaker C:And when you get married, and the longer you get married, the less long the longer you've been married, you realize, don't nobody give a about how I feel, so why do I even need like these, these emotions are just kind of in the way.
Speaker C:It's not that you stop having emotions, you stop real.
Speaker C:You just realize that don't nobody give a.
Speaker C:Like at the end of the day, like if.
Speaker C:If you're sad, okay, cool, you still gotta go do.
Speaker C:If you hurt, you still gotta go do.
Speaker C:You tired, you still gotta go do.
Speaker A:So it's almost that a yes.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:It's because.
Speaker C:Because it's.
Speaker C:It's preservation.
Speaker C:Like emotionless isn't.
Speaker C:Emotionless is a defense mechanism.
Speaker C:It's a survival tactic.
Speaker C:That's why when you see them old men, like, when you see a dude that's been married 50, 60 years, that nigga always cool as ain't.
Speaker C:You'll never see a dude that's been married for like longer than like 20, 30 years.
Speaker C:That ain't just cool as.
Speaker C:Like, it just don't seem like not nothing bothers him.
Speaker C:That's survival.
Speaker C:That's all that is.
Speaker C:That's a survival mechanism.
Speaker C:He realized like 20, 30 years ago.
Speaker C:I can't be out here feeling.
Speaker C:Cause don't nobody give a. I'm just gonna.
Speaker C:I'm just gonna hold it on the road, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, you just get into cruise control when it comes to emotions, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:You just set that and you just say, I'm gonna sit here and I hope, I hope I'm not going too fast or too slow because I'm going to be wrong.
Speaker C:Because as.
Speaker C:As when it comes to a man and emotions in the relationship, you're always wrong.
Speaker C:It doesn't.
Speaker C:Doesn't matter because your emotions are always wrong.
Speaker C:Because if they don't coincide with her emotions, they're wrong.
Speaker C:Happy wife, happy life.
Speaker C:Hence you can't be happy and she not be happy.
Speaker C:Your emotions don't matter no more, man.
Speaker A:Ag, what are your thoughts?
Speaker B:Mine is going to equal the same thing coming from the other direction.
Speaker B:I'm sitting there cooking, preparing for the week and all that.
Speaker B:And my wife and I got to a conversation.
Speaker B:I told her, I was like, listen, women can do a lot of things, and the reason why they can do a lot of things is because their lives won't change.
Speaker B:When you're married.
Speaker B:Excuse me?
Speaker B:When you're married, married, you already know what you're going to do, and you're going to do it regardless of how you feel.
Speaker B:What's been Said to you all the things.
Speaker B:Partly that's the reason why we kind of chuckle at you when you take these stances as a single person, because like you said, you have the luxury to matter with women, and it's their superpower.
Speaker B:She can call you out your name, she can call your mom out her name, but guess where you're going to pay that bill.
Speaker B:You're going to go to work, you're going to pay that mortgage, you're going to make sure that you apologize for whatever your mom did.
Speaker B:You probably call your mom and say, never coming over to see you anymore, because that's actually the choice you have to make.
Speaker B:And you'll be upset and mad, but you're still going to do it.
Speaker B:My hope for you is that you marry somebody who is kind because that's what it's going to take for this not to become a problem.
Speaker B:But the construct is absolutely true.
Speaker B:Hundred percent.
Speaker B:My wife included.
Speaker B:There are things now again, for me.
Speaker B:I spend a lot of time in the film room, so my life feels different than yours is going to feel because I already know what's coming.
Speaker B:Plus, she's super nice, naturally.
Speaker B:She's super nice.
Speaker B:That matters.
Speaker B:She's a kind, kind soul.
Speaker B:If you have anything less than that, what we're talking about is actually going to be a problem.
Speaker B:Like a big problem.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not your way.
Speaker B:So I'm just letting you know two or three things in this situation are true at the same time, but at the end of the day, we meet in the same club.
Speaker B:But the cool thing about this, the thing I thank God for about this situation, though, is that because you're a man, you're built for this.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:There's not a woman standing that can handle that kind of pressure and disrespect and still go out and perform at a high level every day.
Speaker B:They're not built for it.
Speaker B:They can't do it now.
Speaker B:They're say they can, but I've seen it, and they fail miserably 10 times out of 10.
Speaker B:You, sir, are built to get less and perform more.
Speaker C:And not only that, man, you're great at compartmentalizing.
Speaker C:And that's going to be the key.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:To.
Speaker C:To.
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Laughing, but he's telling the truth, dude.
Speaker C:It's the key, man.
Speaker C:It's like, look, man, there's only one person in my relationship that's allowed to take personal, and I ain't it.
Speaker C:I can't take nothing personal.
Speaker C:And when I do, I still have to come back and apologize later.
Speaker C:Because I made the mistake of taking something personal.
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker C:Hey, look, baby, I know you was just tired and everything, and you know that's, that's on me.
Speaker B:You laughing, but he's telling, he preaching to you right now.
Speaker A:I'm laughing.
Speaker B:This is, this is a red table moment, sir.
Speaker B:This is a red table moment right now.
Speaker B:If you listen to anything and I'm.
Speaker C:Not saying, and I'm not saying that in like, in a, in a demeaning way.
Speaker C:That's, that's just the truth.
Speaker C:There's only one person that can take stuff personal and it's not me.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker C:Because if I took stuff personal, I would just be angry all the time.
Speaker C:And then, then, then I'm the problem.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:There can only be one problem in the relationship, and he and the person always has a penis.
Speaker C:And once you, you realize that you are the problem most of the time, whether that's actually the case or not, you still have to treat yourself as if you are the problem.
Speaker C:And once you can do that, you can become that cool old dude that's like been married for 50, 60 years and you just like, hey man, that always so chill.
Speaker C:Cause he's the problem.
Speaker C:He knows it.
Speaker C:He's aware of it.
Speaker B:Self aware.
Speaker C:He works every day to be less of a problem.
Speaker C:That's his goal.
Speaker C:His whole goal is when he wakes up.
Speaker C:I don't want to be too much of a problem today.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker C:I just see if we can make this day go by smooth.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:But you can't say that out loud though, because then you're more of a problem.
Speaker B:Don't say what we're saying out loud.
Speaker B:That's what I said.
Speaker C:It's just us talking.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And actually put moko cowboys.
Speaker B:Put moko cowboys comment on, on the board.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was gonna do that because.
Speaker B:That's exactly space you need to be in.
Speaker A:So I took what you said at face value.
Speaker A:That's on me.
Speaker C:And that sounds like you probably shouldn't say it that way, but that's the equivalence of what you're saying.
Speaker C:Almost every, almost every disagreement I've ever got in with my wife at some point in time, I had to acknowledge that I was the problem.
Speaker C:Did I have to actually believe I was the problem?
Speaker C:Not important.
Speaker C:I just have to acknowledge.
Speaker C:I gotta tell you, it's not important room because you have a problem with like not wanting to be wrong.
Speaker C:And I'm telling you you gotta be okay with like the wrong answer being the right one sometimes and you just, it's gotta Be a hard stop.
Speaker C:Like, you gotta be like, no, I didn't do wrong.
Speaker C:I am not the problem here.
Speaker C:And when she walks in the room, you gotta go, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:I this up.
Speaker A:Sounds like a whole lot of, we just gonna date forever, baby.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:What did I just say?
Speaker C:I said, Babyface did an important thing.
Speaker C:He lied.
Speaker C:Like, every good relationship is based on the man's ability to lie.
Speaker C:Lie correctly.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:I ain't saying.
Speaker C:I ain't saying.
Speaker C:I ain't saying lie like a deceitful lie.
Speaker C:I'm saying, yeah, that was my fault.
Speaker C:See what I did right there?
Speaker C:It probably wasn't my fault, but I'mma say it was my fault because that's an important lie.
Speaker C:That's an important lie.
Speaker A:KO Some cats have to sue power gaslighting for fun.
Speaker A:No idea how they do that.
Speaker B:Yeah, that comment has nothing to do with our show and the people on it, but they certainly have something.
Speaker B:And we talked about, like, two months ago, pimps can do that.
Speaker B:Kb Iko.
Speaker B:Pimps can do that.
Speaker B:Mere mortals, like, on this show.
Speaker B:We can't do that, sir.
Speaker C:Nah, man.
Speaker C:I got.
Speaker C:I got.
Speaker A:I'm never getting married.
Speaker C:I got too much care in me.
Speaker C:I have too much natural compassion to, like, ever, like, like, truly pimp down.
Speaker C:Like, where I'm just, like.
Speaker C:I'm just going to be disrespectful all the time and not give a fuck.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker B:You can't do it.
Speaker C:Not built for it.
Speaker C:I'm just not built for it.
Speaker B:But you're close, though.
Speaker B:You're close.
Speaker C:I can have a moment, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, you know, I ain't built for it.
Speaker B:Because, like, I want to.
Speaker B:I want to tell you something, both of y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:Y' all had something because I listened to a show yesterday.
Speaker B:Now, Friday.
Speaker B:And Reuben, you're really funny about the thing about spitting on you.
Speaker B:Oh, that was hilarious.
Speaker B:But you're so.
Speaker B:You, man.
Speaker B:You are so close to being a pimp, you don't even understand because your emotions are so, like, low level.
Speaker B:It's just like, is your mom just like me?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Because we're talking about.
Speaker B:Remember that time we was talking about, I think.
Speaker B:Oh, when Dak Prescott got spit on?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, bro.
Speaker B:That was freaking hilarious.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:That was hilarious.
Speaker B:I had to tell you that.
Speaker A:Party, huh?
Speaker A:It is not that type of party.
Speaker B:Oh, exactly.
Speaker A:Ever.
Speaker B:Your.
Speaker B:Your response was crazy.
Speaker B:But, yo, man, you.
Speaker B:You were the closest one of us three.
Speaker B:If I were to bet money on who could be a Pimp.
Speaker B:I'd put the.
Speaker B:I'd be.
Speaker B:Bet the farm on you.
Speaker B:You close, man.
Speaker A:You might lose some money.
Speaker B:Because he was talking about the time that the.
Speaker B:The someone you liked, but you were taking it really slow.
Speaker B:And she called you out in front of, you know, a group of friends about what she wished you would do in a really, really.
Speaker B:Yeah, in a really, really malicious way.
Speaker B:And it was foul what she did.
Speaker B:So what he did in response is.
Speaker B:Did exactly what she asked, and he was the problem.
Speaker B:But why did you call him out?
Speaker B:Why did you call him out?
Speaker B:All you had to do is have a conversation.
Speaker B:Hey, you know, I really like it if you.
Speaker B:No, she decided to call him out in front of their group of friends, in earshot of him, but not talking to him.
Speaker B:It was completely disrespectful.
Speaker B:And the way that he.
Speaker B:So when he says he has pimp moments.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And that moment was so important to my life.
Speaker C:I'm so glad she did that.
Speaker C:No, I'm saying I won.
Speaker C:I won the game of life after that moment because one of the people in that room when I was being disrespected is my wife.
Speaker C:She was in the room, and she.
Speaker B:Told him he was wrong for that.
Speaker B:She called him the next day and said, you wrong for what you did.
Speaker B:But was he?
Speaker B:Was he really?
Speaker B:But that shows you a lot about what we're trying to tell you.
Speaker B:Because honestly, if winner was a dude, be high fives everywhere.
Speaker B:Because what she did to him was foul.
Speaker B:Not winner, but the girl in question, what she did to him was foul.
Speaker B:And the way she went about what she needed from him was unnecessary, and it was embarrassing.
Speaker B:And I'm like, why would you.
Speaker B:And he paid her back in kind, doing exactly what she said that she wanted.
Speaker B:And then winter's like, you wrong for that.
Speaker C:And she never talked to me again.
Speaker B:She did you a favor.
Speaker C:And Terry gave me the greatest high five ever.
Speaker C:And he didn't have to give me a high five.
Speaker C:I called.
Speaker C:I literally, this.
Speaker C:This happened real time.
Speaker C:I called Terry when I was leaving.
Speaker C:Like, I just.
Speaker C:You know, the do happened.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I straight.
Speaker C:Straight to the door.
Speaker C:You know, she's coming out the bathroom.
Speaker C:I'm walking out the door.
Speaker C:She's like, where you going?
Speaker C:I'm out.
Speaker C:Deuce shut the door.
Speaker C:I called Terry.
Speaker C:I'm like, yo, I gave her what she wanted.
Speaker C:And he was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker C:Because he was in the room, too.
Speaker C:I gave her what she wanted.
Speaker C:He was like, my nigga.
Speaker C:That's all I needed.
Speaker C:I was just like, yo, thank you.
Speaker B:Telling, man.
Speaker B:But, but, but, like, he said everything.
Speaker B:There were witnesses.
Speaker B:There were multiple witnesses to this entire sequence.
Speaker B:And at the end the of.
Speaker B:Of the day, he was the problem.
Speaker A:I remember being like that when I was younger.
Speaker A:Like, I was.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I was unnecessarily cold back in the day.
Speaker A:Like, cold.
Speaker A:Like, cold.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like south.
Speaker A:Like south Antarctica cold.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I did some in my day I'm.
Speaker C:Not proud of, see, but I don't like being like that.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, I don't even know.
Speaker C:Like, even though I did it and it was.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It difficult to do, it was just like, I don't want to live like this, man.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm sure it was one of those moments where just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Speaker B:However, she kind of had a cloud now in this situation.
Speaker C:I'm just saying.
Speaker C:I joke about it now, but it wasn't one of those things where, like, in the moment, like, I was proud of myself.
Speaker C:I was just like.
Speaker C:Because, as I say, when in the story, I really did like her.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like, I was really, like, trying.
Speaker C:I was really trying to be on my, like, you know, correct courting type thing.
Speaker C:Like, you know, we're gonna do the actual.
Speaker C:That's just important thing.
Speaker A:That's just like, I didn't realize I.
Speaker C:Was just some dick.
Speaker C:And I was like, cool.
Speaker C:But then I was a proud one.
Speaker C:I was just a dick.
Speaker A:So, Yeah, I mean, it's just like back in the day when I was much, much, much money, much younger, and I work with this person, and she said some shit to me that.
Speaker A:I could tell you what she said today, but it snap.
Speaker A:It cut on a switch in my head and literally, because we.
Speaker A:It was like a summer thing and we worked in the same spot.
Speaker A:We lived there.
Speaker A:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker A:And when we were working, constant communication.
Speaker A:If it was not work, she won't dare.
Speaker A:Like, she would talk to me off work.
Speaker A:I would ignore her, like she didn't exist.
Speaker A:And I did that for, like three weeks.
Speaker A:Like, I was deep in it.
Speaker A:And I guess around that time, she realized that I was upset at her.
Speaker A:I don't know why I took it three weeks, but that's because she didn't give a.
Speaker A:So I was fine with that, you know.
Speaker C:You gave her the silent treatment?
Speaker A:Well, I gave it a silent treatment on things that weren't work responsible.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know what you said.
Speaker C:That's still the silence treatment.
Speaker C:I. I've never.
Speaker C:I never knew a man could successfully pull the silent treatment.
Speaker B:He's told you the story like three or four times.
Speaker C:But I've never.
Speaker C:I've never processed it to the point where I was like, it was the silent treatment.
Speaker C:Like, I've never heard of a scenario where a guy gave the silent treatment and was that committed to it.
Speaker C:Like, dog, you're like life goals, dog.
Speaker C:Like, at a certain point in time, I'd be like, hey, look, I really don't want to talk to you, and I'd appreciate if you didn't talk to me.
Speaker C:Like, let's.
Speaker C:Let's just keep.
Speaker A:But I couldn't do that because we work together.
Speaker C:Well, here's the thing.
Speaker C:I be like, hey, look, when we not at work, I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker C:See what I did?
Speaker C:I'm too direct.
Speaker C:Like you.
Speaker C:You can.
Speaker A:I feel like she didn't.
Speaker A:She didn't even know.
Speaker A:I felt like she didn't need.
Speaker A:That was not information that she needed to know, but she learned it throughout the course of three weeks.
Speaker A:And then I guess she went and talked to somebody and.
Speaker C:Reuben, that's three weeks of energy ignoring someone.
Speaker A:I. Bro, it wasn't energy.
Speaker C:Ruben, if you ignore.
Speaker C:If you can selectively turn somebody off at work and then in their personal life, that is energy.
Speaker C:I don't care how you try to define it, that is.
Speaker A:It wasn't hard.
Speaker A:It wasn't hard.
Speaker C:Then that's why I'm saying I admire you, dog.
Speaker B:Cuz that's.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:I ain't got it ag.
Speaker B:Could you pull that off and say, I didn't expend any injury.
Speaker B:Absolutely not.
Speaker B:Yeah, I could do it, but it.
Speaker B:It cost.
Speaker C:Yeah, I be.
Speaker C:It's all it, man.
Speaker A:I mean it.
Speaker A:So I guess the thing about it was it was just like back then, I had a temper problem.
Speaker A:I mean, I.
Speaker A:It never showed a lot, but I didn't.
Speaker A:When I got angry, energy became unlimited.
Speaker A:And I was really.
Speaker A:But in that time of my life, I. I held grudges.
Speaker C:The hate was strong.
Speaker C:I was Darth Small, like a.
Speaker A:Back in the day.
Speaker B:Like, yo, hurt people, hurt people, baby.
Speaker A:I mean, yo, it's just what it is, man.
Speaker A:Cause like, I know one time, like I don't even.
Speaker A:Once again, it's just like a trigger, man.
Speaker A:Back in the day.
Speaker A:And it just happened.
Speaker A:It literally happened.
Speaker A:Happened after I turned 18.
Speaker A:And for some people, like, if you hit that switch, it's like, I mean, how can I be mean to you without directly being mean to you.
Speaker A:I mean, like, this one person.
Speaker A:I don't even know what it was or whatever, but what I would do with her, like, she said something to me.
Speaker A:I didn't appreciate it.
Speaker A:So I was overly nice to her whenever we were in a group.
Speaker A:But solo, once again, Silas, she.
Speaker A:She won't dare to me.
Speaker C:I'm getting exhausted just thinking about all this.
Speaker A:I was committed, bro.
Speaker A:I was committed.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker C:I need to take a nap, bro.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:But, I mean, back in the day, man, I was.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, I. I would say.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker A:I think this is a fair statement for me.
Speaker A:Back in the day, when I was younger, I really wasn't mad about a lot.
Speaker A:There was not a lot to be mad.
Speaker A:I mean, I went through the whole.
Speaker A:I mean, I got bullied and shit in school, whatever, but that's what it was, you know, And I really wasn't, like, mad mad.
Speaker A:And I never really had any power, so I never knew how to deal with things such as that.
Speaker A:And so it is very different to go from never having power over anything, and then one day you realize, you know, you have a little bit more power than you think over people.
Speaker A:And, you know, I would say I was using it for a lot more evil than I was for a lot more good.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And back then, I felt like if you fell into that, I mean, there was no energy limit.
Speaker A:Like, I was.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:I had to star Mario Brothers, bro.
Speaker A:All day.
Speaker A:As long as I felt it.
Speaker A:Yo, I was.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I was gleaming and was like, whatever.
Speaker A:We can do this all day.
Speaker A:What does Captain America say?
Speaker A:You know, I can do this all day.
Speaker A:And back then, certain things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When you got me upset, I could do it all day, sir.
Speaker C:I admire your determination.
Speaker C:Too lazy.
Speaker A:Hold.
Speaker C:I've said it before, man.
Speaker C:I'm way too lazy to hold a grudge, man.
Speaker C:It takes too much energy, man.
Speaker C:I try life as efficiently as possible.
Speaker A:I haven't.
Speaker A:I haven't gotten to that.
Speaker A:I haven't been there since, I mean, 20, 30 years.
Speaker A:Like, I've never really gotten that mad.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:That's why I'm happy most of the time, because I don't want to be that.
Speaker A:That's a bad place to be.
Speaker A:I mean, for anybody.
Speaker A:Moo.
Speaker A:Cowboy want see dark Rubin villain arc you got Back when I was younger.
Speaker A:When I was younger, I didn't.
Speaker A:There's a lot of.
Speaker A:There's a lot of stuff that I. I was.
Speaker A:You thought I was paying a Now.
Speaker A:Nah, Man, I was a dude on the team who did everything but clean up and left and left you around to clean up after my.
Speaker A:After my tornado awake.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That was me back in the day.
Speaker C:There's an evil version of you inside some other multiverse.
Speaker A:Nobody wants that.
Speaker A:Nobody.
Speaker A:Hell, I don't want that.
Speaker A:So I know nobody else wants that craziness.
Speaker A:Ag, man.
Speaker B:What's on your mind, ladies?
Speaker B:As you're telling the world what men should do for you, it would be nice for you to say what you need to be doing for men, what your obligations are to men.
Speaker B:And that's always on my mind.
Speaker A:Obligations, obligations.
Speaker B:Because it seems to be there's only one side of the.
Speaker B:The situation all the time.
Speaker B:You have to be.
Speaker B:Men have to be this, men have to be that.
Speaker B:All the things what I.
Speaker B:And I told my wife this today.
Speaker B:I have not met one woman ever that has laid out what she owes the relationship.
Speaker B:Not one.
Speaker A:Sounds more like the R word.
Speaker B:Oh, reciprocity.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Responsibility.
Speaker B:Well, that too.
Speaker B:So it's just like, hey, you, I'm just letting you know at some point, if you don't have a plan for me, you're not going to be with me.
Speaker B:And that's a categorical statement because I'm married.
Speaker B:But yeah, at some point, all these, all these high level men, you're gonna have to have a plan for, for these people or you're not gonna be with nobody.
Speaker B:You gotta have a plan.
Speaker B:If you, if you come into the relationship empty handed, asking for a whole bunch of stuff, at some point that's gonna cost somebody.
Speaker B:So just letting you know, that's what's on my mind.
Speaker A:Just like you, the wicked wheelchair, the west man.
Speaker A:Somebody just throws a whole bunch of responsibility on you.
Speaker A:I'm melting.
Speaker A:I'm melting.
Speaker B:Well, whatever.
Speaker B:Get a it and get it together.
Speaker C:That's what accountability does to them.
Speaker C:Not accountability.
Speaker B:That too.
Speaker A:I mean, it's kind of safe.
Speaker A:Well, not same thing, but same tree.
Speaker A:The same tree though.
Speaker C:I know a lot of responsible women.
Speaker C:I don't know too many accountable women.
Speaker C:Those are two different statements.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Mo B, man, what's on your mind?
Speaker C:First of all, I'd like to apologize.
Speaker C:Apologize to.
Speaker C:Why you laughing, man?
Speaker B:It's so crazy.
Speaker B:But let, let him get it out though, man.
Speaker A:Sorry, man.
Speaker B:You're not wrong, but let him get it out.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I feel like I'm about to disappoint you because I was about to apologize to my mom because I know she's gonna be listening to the show.
Speaker C:Because she.
Speaker C:She was.
Speaker C:She was talking to me earlier about how she thinks you hate women and you need to do better.
Speaker C:That's a real statement.
Speaker C:I didn't say that.
Speaker C:She, she said she think you hate roof women, Reuben, and you need to do better.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Ruben, really?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:She thinks you hate women, man.
Speaker B:I didn't see that coming.
Speaker B:I thought you were saying.
Speaker B:She said that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was like, whoa.
Speaker C:Like, all right.
Speaker A:I mean, I mean, when I find one, I could probably do better.
Speaker C:I mean, she just said she thinks you hate women.
Speaker C:I was like, okay, so I don't know what we got, how we got here, how did we land here?
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:But I mean, it seems like he.
Speaker B:Well, Ruben spends a lot of time about 20, talking about the woman he wants.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker C:You see, I think, I think my mom is mistaken.
Speaker C:Reuben's natural ability to hate with hating women.
Speaker C:Hating women.
Speaker C:I'm like, I get it, you know, he is a diabolical hater, but I don't think he hates women.
Speaker B:Reuben's hate does not go into misogyny.
Speaker B:Not even close.
Speaker B:Not even close.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:I was like, she.
Speaker C:She would have a better argument for saying that I hate women.
Speaker A:Actually.
Speaker B:My mom said that.
Speaker A:That's what you said, right?
Speaker B:I did too.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:But my mom, My mom said the same thing about me, but all it took for me is to.
Speaker B:The funny thing about it was.
Speaker B:And I. I'm not trying to hijack you, man, but the funny thing about my mom saying I hate women or asking me if I did was me learning and getting hardened because that was.
Speaker B:That's what she was trying to teach me.
Speaker B:And so when I gave it back to her, it came out to her, like, misogyny.
Speaker B:I'm like, mommy, you taught me this.
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker A:I've never had anybody say that about me.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker B:But it's, man, it's gonna happen.
Speaker B:I'm telling you.
Speaker B:All it takes is one statement.
Speaker B:You probably said one thing that to us was innocuous, but for her it was.
Speaker B:It was like, you hate women.
Speaker B:So trigger.
Speaker C:Only two things a woman hates get in her way and not get in her way.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker C:Only two things.
Speaker C:Only two things.
Speaker A:Steps.
Speaker B:Eternity.
Speaker C:I. I just wanted to apologize to my mom for having to listen to me cuss up here and, you know, a late happy birthday.
Speaker C:Hopefully she's got her birthday gift.
Speaker B:Oh, happy birthday, cuz.
Speaker C:Her birthday gift.
Speaker C:Her birthday was win.
Speaker A:Happy birthday.
Speaker A:I sent her a gift.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, I sent her a gift on Wednesday to her house.
Speaker C:You Know the place where she lives.
Speaker C:And then on her birthday, I call her, say happy Birthday.
Speaker C:And then she's like, yeah, she's headed to my grandma's house.
Speaker C:I'm like, why you.
Speaker C:Why you headed there now?
Speaker C:Like, your gift is coming.
Speaker C:So hopefully by now she's got her gift that I said sent her that was waiting on her patio probably for a couple.
Speaker A:Is it alive?
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker C:No, it's not alive.
Speaker A:Like, was it alive?
Speaker C:No, it was just a gift.
Speaker A:Oh, no, I'm just making sure.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I knew it wasn't like an animal, like flowers or something.
Speaker C:No, no, it wasn't flowers.
Speaker C:It wasn't flowers.
Speaker C:It was a gift.
Speaker C:But it's like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'm thinking, well, I think her neighbor went and got it because it was just sitting on the porch.
Speaker C:So she called, cuz I told her.
Speaker C:I was like, mom, I had something delivered to you and you ain't there.
Speaker C:But, yeah, man, like, hey, man, I. I realized today that I am nothing like my mom, personality wise.
Speaker C:And I don't.
Speaker C:I don't know how it happened like that, cuz I'm like.
Speaker C:I feel like somebody I was originally around so much, I should, like, have adopted some of her mannerisms.
Speaker C:And I just didn't because she's, like, so upset with.
Speaker C:Well, not upset, but she gets so irritated with my youngest daughter, Cadence, because, you know, Cadence acts like me, I guess.
Speaker C:I guess I know she acts like me.
Speaker C:And I see how much that irritates my mom now.
Speaker C:And I'm just thinking, this has got to be hell for her.
Speaker C:Because, like, at least when I was acting like that when I was younger, she was like, all about her discipline game with me.
Speaker C:But now she's like, trying to be the cool grandparent to be like.
Speaker C:But she's also being irritated by somebody at the same time.
Speaker C:And like, this is like the first time I'm looking at my mom look powerless because, like, you know, Cadence is being Cadence, and my mom's looking at her going, why you?
Speaker C:And my mom tries to do her normal.
Speaker C:Like, I'm gonna jab at you for doing something I didn't like, like, in a funny way.
Speaker C:And K, just don't take the bait, man.
Speaker B:K is just like, whatever you said, whatever.
Speaker B:Didn't you just apologize to your mama?
Speaker B:Now you got to apologize to what you just said.
Speaker C:No, but I can't.
Speaker C:I'm not going to apologize for what happened.
Speaker C:That's what happened.
Speaker C:My mom was.
Speaker C:That's what happens.
Speaker C:I'm I'm just saying, man, like, my apology is like, I'm sorry, kids.
Speaker C:Cadence is so much like me because, like, I know this has got to be miserable for my mom sometimes because, like, when she talks to me now, I give my little smart Alec comments back to her, and she's, like, upset about it.
Speaker C:But I'm grown, and I ain't really disrespectful with it, so we cool.
Speaker C:But, like, with Cadence, I'm grown, so.
Speaker A:I can do that.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:Notice I put the I'm not disrespectful part in there, too.
Speaker C:I did.
Speaker B:He did say that.
Speaker B:He led with that.
Speaker B:He led with that.
Speaker C:But, I mean, but I can see when Kaden said.
Speaker C:Because Kaden's ain't disrespectful at all.
Speaker C:But I can just see, it's like, she ain't got no power, man.
Speaker C:And to see my mom look powerless,.
Speaker B:Like, it almost hurts.
Speaker C:Cause I'm just like, man, like, I know you want to be so upset, but you can't.
Speaker C:And then even if you were, you also know the person you'd be being upset with.
Speaker C:Don't give two fucks.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, my God, Cadence, could you.
Speaker C:Like, she is next level on not giving a man.
Speaker C:Like, she.
Speaker C:She is what I aspire to be.
Speaker C:One day I look at caters with jealousy.
Speaker C:Sometimes I'm just like, yo, maybe like 9 o' clock at night.
Speaker C:Cadence tired.
Speaker C:She go in her room, shut the door, go to sleep.
Speaker C:You call her something.
Speaker C:She like, man, I don't give a.
Speaker C:About nothing going on in the rest of the house.
Speaker C:Ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker C:Don't bother me.
Speaker C:Like, this could be burning down.
Speaker C:Cadence is like, if that don't affect me in my room.
Speaker C:Okay, catch y' all problem.
Speaker C:And Kira is on the opposite end.
Speaker C:So Kira's super emotional.
Speaker C:And my mom is irritated by Kira because.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, Mom.
Speaker C:Kira's a lot like you.
Speaker C:And she can.
Speaker C:She tends to go up and down very quickly, very quickly.
Speaker C:And I'm sorry that, you know, on.
Speaker C:On your.
Speaker C:On your birthday breakfast, you had to experience.
Speaker C:My greatest accomplishments at the same time.
Speaker C:But Plug, we went to a place called Fancy Biscuit in downtown Richmond, man.
Speaker C:They got some of the best goddamn biscuits I've ever had in my life, man.
Speaker C:But, yeah, that's what's on my mind, man.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, mom, that you had to experience, you know, my offspring in the way you did.
Speaker C:But happy birthday.
Speaker C:And I'm truly thankful for everything you've ever done for me in my life.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker A:What's on my mind?
Speaker A:So, first of all, I'm gonna say this, and I'm.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say this with as much unnecessary passion as I should.
Speaker A:Yo, man, the TV channel investigation discovery is wrong, man.
Speaker A:It's wrong for this shit.
Speaker A:It's just wrong for this shit, man.
Speaker A:They be coming out with some good ass ass shows, man, and most of that shit is real.
Speaker A:And so today, once again, chilling day, I'm trying to find something on tv because you know when you don't, when you have like 200 channels, it ain't on TV, then you gotta start going other places.
Speaker A:So I went to hbo, Max, and I was like, huh, that looks interesting.
Speaker A:You know, now if you don't know id, they're the same people who brought you like the Nickelodeon about old boy and molested kids.
Speaker A:So hey, why not fall into another one?
Speaker A:And I did the boy band confidential joint.
Speaker C:Man,.
Speaker A:As interesting as it was, was I don't understand.
Speaker A:I understand that people in this world were sick.
Speaker A:I just don't understand why they sick.
Speaker A:And bro, man, like, taking advantage of children is like, like sexual advantage of children is like some of the worst you can do.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, back in the day, draw a quarter, cut your balls off, cut your pants off, you don't need to be doing none of that no more.
Speaker A:Like you, you should not have children, nor should you never have the right to beat off ever in life again.
Speaker A:Like, no, that's it for you.
Speaker A:And man, yo, except for that part, it's really interesting.
Speaker A:It was an interesting show.
Speaker A:You know, talks about the boy bands in the.
Speaker A: s all the way down to like: Speaker A:It was good show, very interesting.
Speaker A:Had some of them talk about it.
Speaker A:Boom, boom, boom, life is good.
Speaker A:Then they bring up this when people are like, you know, adults are pulling out their penises in front of little kids and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And I'm just like, bro, like, first of all, why are you rich?
Speaker A:And then second of all, why haven't you been putting in some sort of jail buried, had your penis cut off?
Speaker A:Like, I don't understand it, man.
Speaker A:And I'd never hope to understand it.
Speaker A:Let's just get that clear.
Speaker A:Like, but yo, sad, man, it was, it was interesting about the trials and tribulations.
Speaker A:Then it got real dark and then it got all happy again.
Speaker A:Like at the end, I'm just like the man.
Speaker A:All I'm gonna sit here and say is if you haven't seen it.
Speaker A:You should just.
Speaker A:Because I think a lot of people put superstars and stuff on pedestals, and when it's all said and done, you don't really know what these are going through and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And then honestly, I mean, I. Yo, I don't want to be famous.
Speaker A:Especially I'm like.
Speaker A:It's almost like you gotta give like something to be famous.
Speaker A:I. I don't feel that at all.
Speaker A:Even with this show, I don't feel like I need to be famous ever.
Speaker A:But then again, I'm an adult now, so it's a little different.
Speaker A:But yeah, man, once again, investigation discovery, man,.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:It's interesting of up there, but you just got to be mentally prepared to deal with the.
Speaker A:That they talk about because some of that is rough.
Speaker A:And definitely if you're under the age of 25, you shouldn't be watching any of it.
Speaker A:You know, I understand you're an adult when you're 18, but hell no, you don't need to be looking at that stuff.
Speaker A:You got to wait till you're 25, where your insurance at least gets cheaper.
Speaker A:Then you can watch it.
Speaker C:Gave them insurance dates.
Speaker C:Your insurance rates I dropped before you watch this, son.
Speaker A:Hell yeah, man.
Speaker A:Hell yeah, man.
Speaker A:Cause it's.
Speaker C:Can't be out here watching this and you.
Speaker C:And you high risk.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Cause, man, you can't.
Speaker A:You got to be out.
Speaker A:You got to have experienced some before you watching this on tv.
Speaker A:But some of that stuff is really, really good.
Speaker A:Not gonna lie.
Speaker A:But every once in a while they throw this curveball and the.
Speaker A:Was going good, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, you know, going through, like, okay, everybody's human.
Speaker A:And then boom.
Speaker A:You know, I was 15.
Speaker A:He pulled his dick out.
Speaker A:I'm like, the.
Speaker A:Like, where did this come from?
Speaker A:Like, you just.
Speaker A:Come on, man.
Speaker A:You gotta prepare a.
Speaker A:For that, man.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But yeah, other.
Speaker A:Other than that part, because abuse is nothing that you should really laugh at or anything because that shit's up.
Speaker A:And all adults who abused kids, there's a special place in hell for you all day.
Speaker A:Like, in far as I'm concerned, you can get there sooner rather than later because that shit's up.
Speaker A:A kid who can't defend themselves.
Speaker A:And you do that.
Speaker A:And then how come it's always dudes, it's always guys with little boys.
Speaker A:Like, I don't understand.
Speaker A:I don't get it.
Speaker A:I don't ever want to get it, I guess.
Speaker A:But still, this shit's up, man.
Speaker A:It's just up and you know, Whatever, Whatever.
Speaker A:But yeah, Investigation Discovery has a lot of cool on it, but you just got to be prepared.
Speaker A:And like I said, I just want.
Speaker C:You to know that wasn't the greatest endorsement you just gave.
Speaker A:Hey, man, hey, paying me.
Speaker A:I'm just giving it to you real son.
Speaker B:Or maybe it was because it's as exactly, exactly what that show is about or that channel's about.
Speaker B:So maybe it was an endorsement.
Speaker A:It talks about that nobody else talks about.
Speaker A:But some of it, most of it is not good or is.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, they got a joint called Brad Killer.
Speaker A:Like what?
Speaker A:Which is another reason possibly Moco Cowboy.
Speaker A:This is possibly the longest episode.
Speaker A:I appreciate you still being here watching.
Speaker A:So, yeah, man, just once again, if you got kids, they can't watch this shit.
Speaker A:And if you're not 25, you can't watch this either.
Speaker A:So that's what it is.
Speaker A:With that being said, like, thank everybody for joining us on a extremely long episode of five Minute Warning today.
Speaker A:Hey, once again, we do this every Sunday at 9:00pm Eastern Standard Time.
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Speaker A:Thank you to Moby, thank you to AG and hey man, we'll be back next week at 9pm doing this again.
Speaker A:Hopefully not for this long, but definitely doing this again.
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Speaker A:Hey, if you need stuff on Stanley cups, shirts, hats, they got you.
Speaker A:I'm not sure if they do underwear.
Speaker A:I have to ask.
Speaker A:I'll let you know next week.
Speaker A:But definitely not kids.
Speaker A:We don't do that kids here.
Speaker A:So with that being said, once again, thank you to JTT Creations, thank you to Moby, thank you to ag.
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